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Skeptimistically Impressed - Ashes of Creation Columns
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Skeptimistically Impressed - Ashes of Creation Columns
Join our own Tim Eisenzimmer in a stream of consciousness as he muses about a new MMORPG in development and its potential crowd funded campaign.
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However this game is looking good and reading over the FAQ ,MOST of what i read says the developer has a good head on their shoulders.
I think at this point i am really afraid of the community more than the developers.
I want this to be a true mmorpg and not what a lot of community wants which is another Wow or GW2 silliness.
There is sooo much wrong with the top end games it is sickening but like i said these guys are one to finally look like they want to make a game they actually want to play.Yes we hear that rubbish all the time then the games all look and play the same,so i call BS on nice PR speeches.
WRONG?? yellow markers over npc heads,direction arrows on screens,rewards for doing literally nothing,linear questing leading to some crappy end game nonsense,yeah there is a lot wrong with mmo gaming right now and these guys seem to be ignoring all those crappy designs ideas.
Final note:How do little companies with little money give us more features,better graphics than so called multi millionaire giants?I think it is easy,they care about their game more so than rushing out products for investors.
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A world built, maintained, and balanced by the players themselves is truly a masterful and immersive experience unlike any if done right. The only time I've seen this done well before is in Eve nullsec, but even in Eve half the map is safe in npc low/high-sec. Don't get my meaning wrong, this type of world can be just as immersive on a pve-only server as well. The closest types of games to this in recent years are survival games, which I find myself reluctantly playing due to the lack of a similar mmo.
I wish this team all the best and hope they can pull it off without straying from their vision.
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Back in UO and SWG, "players" drove the economy and only player vendors sold the top 50% of gear/items. it is like the magic of game design is gone and all these designers know how to do is make "kill ten boars" quests and create an auction house.
I hope that either these guys or the next group can pull it off but at this stage in my life, I am no longer dumping any money into crowdfunding or "potential".
Since we're looking at 2021 or later won't get too excited.
Ashes is perfect in case that is what becomes of all of the hope and promises.
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Well, Crowfall is definitely coming along with the whole shaping of the world thing. I think that the biggest problem/obstacle for these games is this sort of scope. What I'd like to see is someone say, up front, that this is our Vision and THIS is our plan. I know it's a dirty word, but I'd rather someone ship me an MVP that I can play and enjoy while they flesh out additional features than attempt to do it all in one shot. That's my preference, though, I know that SotA is an example of how this can go sideways as well, as is Star Citizen.
I think that UO and SWG only serve to support how complex these systems can be. It's like people who say, "I don't know why they don't make more sandboxes, it's less work than themeparks and it's better." Well, no! It's actually quite complex. We probably should note that in both the games you mention, Raph Koster was a major part of. He was also the one who said that adding Jedis would kill SWG. It's also worth noting that he's part of the Crowfall team. Just sayin'
The one thing that we ARE seeing now are KS Campaigns which come to the table with more. They have stuff to show that seems remarkably polished for a "concept". Depending on what these guys bring to the table, I might back it. However, if they aren't planning on shipping until it's feature complete, then I'll wait, much for the same reason you mention.
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I think you mean Camelot, Crowfall's only been in development for 2 years
Anywho, I think I'll be optimistically skeptical (or skeptimistic as Tim calls it) about Ashes until I see a public demo or a "playable" pre-alpha. I heard the Devs were going to do a livestream next week, so I might check it out. When is it btw?
Same! I saw the video and was immediately skeptical, so I was glad to hear they were going to do a livestream. Maybe that's the whole reason they even released the video, was to get people talking about how it's not actual gameplay and they're obviously lying, and then they wow people with a great livestream. Although that seems so calculating that it's tiring, so maybe not.
Crazkanuk
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Tankinpain - 90 Monk - Azjol-Nerub - US
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The dungeon gameplay video made it seem like it'll use an action based system, I suppose similar to Tera or maybe B&S
From the website-
"Our PvP mechanics follow a flagging system, as well as static PvP zones at certain points of interest; fight for control over cities, castles, caravans, or hunting grounds. Our PvP is designed to offer the players a well-balanced and fair world to shape through the pen, or sword should they choose." Sounds a bit like SWG, which is a plus.
Sounds like it might be battlegrounds in the open world.
Actually plenty of game footage and content already ! Check out my channel for alot of information regarding the game.