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Twitch to Go Head-to-Head with Steam Selling Games - MMORPG.com News

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited February 2017 in News & Features Discussion

imageTwitch to Go Head-to-Head with Steam Selling Games - MMORPG.com News

GamesIndustry.biz is reporting on what cduld easily be one of the biggest stories in gaming so far in 2017. It appears that Twitch will begin selling digital versions of games this Spring pitting it in a head-to-head fight for dominance with Steam. While a big revelation, in a sense it comes as no surprise given that Twitch is owned by Amazon.

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  • Veexer_NuiVeexer_Nui Member UncommonPosts: 268
    no one will waste time installing a twitch desktop app when steam already exists. It will fail.

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  • ForgrimmForgrimm Member EpicPosts: 3,069
    Amazon wants to take over the world.
  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    I am not a fan of Twitch or any social media at all but even I can see this will be huge.

    Millennial's will flock to this in droves. The Twitch Crate itself will drive sales.

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  • ToodlesToodles Member UncommonPosts: 121
    no one will waste time installing a twitch desktop app when steam already exists. It will fail.
    It won't. Amazon is a genius in marketing. It'll be another bundle advantage with prime offering discounts for prime members, and those discounts will stack with game sales which will effectively put it cheaper than steam.

    It's going to be a raging success and steam will start to fall behind.
  • WellspringWellspring Member EpicPosts: 1,464
    Uggh... I don't want to have to install another program on my computer for my game library. I already have Steam, Origin, and Uplay.
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  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    Uggh... I don't want to have to install another program on my computer for my game library. I already have Steam, Origin, and Uplay.
    Don't.

    This will be primarily for those that are regular users of Twitch. Or those for whatever reason don't like any of the above apps.

    Now if they get any exclusives then it's a whole different ballgame. I'm going to go ahead and call it. You will see some kind of e-sport game become Twitch exclusive.

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    I don't know how to take this news.

    First of all Steam prices are notoriously good so,i don't see much benefit here other than just maybe better support than Steam's horrible support.
    What i do fear is that twitch will stoop to illegal means of paying all their top streamers to endorse sponsored games,something that governments have started to clamp down on but is tough to prove.

    Twitch has been very aggressive with finding ways to make more money,however i have yet to see anything benefit the viewers since the first day i used Twitch.They have this Twitch prime ordeal but i  won't use it,so i don't see them doing much for the industry other than making money off of it.

    One thing for certain,at least i think so is Twitch will be an easier platform to move from watching to playing which might very well allow them to take over Steam's foothold on the business.This will of course have to include cloud/storage.

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  • ArskaaaArskaaa Member RarePosts: 1,265


    no one will waste time installing a twitch desktop app when steam already exists. It will fail.



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  • Entris38Entris38 Member UncommonPosts: 401
    Competition is good, especially since Steam never has day one sales on AAA titles. I always seem to buy from green man or something so it's cheaper, sites legit and legal that is. With amazon prime and twitch, hopefully we will see that 20% off prime discount on digital versions.
  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    Entris38 said:
    Competition is good, especially since Steam never has day one sales on AAA titles. I always seem to buy from green man or something so it's cheaper, sites legit and legal that is. With amazon prime and twitch, hopefully we will see that 20% off prime discount on digital versions.
    Yep when I preorder I look at my trusted key sites first then GMG if none of those have it cheaper.

    Like you said: competition is always good.

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  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    no one will waste time installing a twitch desktop app when steam already exists. It will fail.
    But I know how to get all these streamed movies for $0.00 USD, pay nothing and watch only costs me $3 a month for an anonymous proxy.

    Here is what needs to happen, they need to get rid of "Cable Television", only have Live Events, News, and Weather Broadcast / Sports, all other channels taken off, increase internet bandwidth to 100mbit minimum standard broadband package, and make everything else all movies streamed anyone can customize and stream on demand what they want to watch when lol.
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901
    People will see this as just another way to support the Twitch gamers they follow. Lots of people also goto Twitch to watch gameplay before they buy a game. I do all the time. A "Buy Game" button with some discount would win my business. Just saying!
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited February 2017
    I agree this can be HUGE.

    This directly competes with Valve's revenue cut (of minimum 30%) by giving devs 35%, and this with the marketing and advertising that comes from the Twitch platform just of people streaming the game...

    I think Valve has found their match, Amazon might be willing to spend big bucks to make this work. O.o
  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,618


    Uggh... I don't want to have to install another program on my computer for my game library. I already have Steam, Origin, and Uplay.



    This. There's far too many programs like this which are basically bloatware. Just let us buy the game without the need to add some BS app/desktop app etc etc.

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  • Nickhead420Nickhead420 Member UncommonPosts: 251
    Maybe this means Amazon will have decent prices for games now? Amazon is always one of the places I look when I'm interested in buying a game because I always have some credit there. Even when games are on sale, they're usually still the most expensive place. I always check, but I have yet to buy.
  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,565
    I think of it less about being against Steam, as more about getting a slice of the action they're already helping. They sell games from streamer channels, because people use twitch to inform purchases already. Many streamers get CPA links to get revenue sharing from sponsored content too. So this cuts out the middle man and could net Twitch cash while undercutting Steam a fraction for developers who sell them via their own channels.

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901


    I think of it less about being against Steam, as more about getting a slice of the action they're already helping. They sell games from streamer channels, because people use twitch to inform purchases already. Many streamers get CPA links to get revenue sharing from sponsored content too. So this cuts out the middle man and could net Twitch cash while undercutting Steam a fraction for developers who sell them via their own channels.



    Im shocked this didnt happen years ago, just seem like a natural extension of what they are doing.
  • ToodlesToodles Member UncommonPosts: 121
    Pretty much what Bill said. This new twitch/amazon program isn't meant to compete with Steam realistically, but it's going to cut steam at the knees just by collateral damage. This is going to be huge. It's going to change the way game purchasing is done I feel, and I think a lot of people are under rating this.

    This is a marketing shift. Look at it as a pilot program for their broader marketing goals. If this takes off as well as I imagine it will, you'll see this become more of a thing with other day to day items, etc. Amazon's Dash buttons are a great example of this. We have about 10 dash buttons currently. ranging from bathroom essentials to food staples. One of our 3 children is autistic, loves to go shopping, but we can only be out x amount of time before he loses it. So we have to go shopping in secret or on very strict 'sprint-like' trips when we take him with us.

    The amazon dash buttons allow us to order things with a push of the button without having to make extra trips, or make a trip longer. It's an incredible convenience to have, especially when you're already taking a kid to various therapies 4 days out of the week and taking other kids to other extra curricular activities.

    Amazon really has their marketing team ahead of the curve and you can expect the way you shop to change drastically over the next 5 years, in large part because of amazon.

    (We own a descent amount of AMZN stock because as a consumer we are able to see what they're doing for us as a consumer and a shareholder)
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Nanfoodle said:


    I think of it less about being against Steam, as more about getting a slice of the action they're already helping. They sell games from streamer channels, because people use twitch to inform purchases already. Many streamers get CPA links to get revenue sharing from sponsored content too. So this cuts out the middle man and could net Twitch cash while undercutting Steam a fraction for developers who sell them via their own channels.



    Im shocked this didnt happen years ago, just seem like a natural extension of what they are doing.


    Yeah, I'm not going to lie, I think this would have been a great project for YouTube, but as innovative as Google has been throughout the years, YouTube has been largely reactive. It's just so odd. I wouldn't be surprised to see YouTube enter the ring, but they were late on streaming, too, so I wouldn't expect anything in the short term. That is unless they could create a partnership with Steam. 

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Retail competition is never a bad thing for consumers. The more digital distributors the better,
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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    Go Amazon
  • freegamesfreegames Member UncommonPosts: 240
    Also thought twitch would do this years ago and also having it through an app would be just more happy clutter. It would either be that or direct from amazon so that would make between 70-75% for publisher/developer, 5% for the streamer and 20-25% for twitch/amazon which would still be good. It may not be the best place to buy, but it is always good to have more options.
  • FelixMajorFelixMajor Member RarePosts: 865
    *Puts on extended blinders*

    No idea what you are talking about. I'm just going to re install all my Novalogic games and hide from all this new age shit.

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  • AvarixAvarix Member RarePosts: 665

    Renoaku said:



    no one will waste time installing a twitch desktop app when steam already exists. It will fail.


    But I know how to get all these streamed movies for $0.00 USD, pay nothing and watch only costs me $3 a month for an anonymous proxy.

    Here is what needs to happen, they need to get rid of "Cable Television", only have Live Events, News, and Weather Broadcast / Sports, all other channels taken off, increase internet bandwidth to 100mbit minimum standard broadband package, and make everything else all movies streamed anyone can customize and stream on demand what they want to watch when lol.



    Companies like Comcast have realized this, which is why they are now better monetizing data. Unlimited internet will soon be a thing of the past and you will continue to pay extremely high rates as time goes on. They will get ya one way or another.

    AT&T already limits their data usage to 150gb a month. Comcast just started limiting it to 1tb a month as a beta test. Soon Comcast will lower it and continue lowering it until they catch up with AT&T. Other isp will fall in line.
  • francis_baudfrancis_baud Member RarePosts: 479
    edited February 2017


    no one will waste time installing a twitch desktop app when steam already exists. It will fail.


    As I understood it, this service relies on:
    1) impulsiveness : one-click purchase while watching a stream
    2) rewards : a chance to earn a random item with every purchase
    3) donations : a percentage of the sales goes to the streamer
    4) ambition : the better streamers market a game, the more money they earn

    It may have a positive impact on other Amazon/Twitch services and loops (viewership, sense of community, exclusive content, marketing of AGS products, etc.).

    Twitch could end up offering something that is different enough from Steam that gamers want to have both platforms installed (or even ditch Steam at some point).
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