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This game is a cash shop grab
woodyfly
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After playing it for a while, I realized that everything is behind a paywall. To fully unlock inventory slots it costs like $150.... and it's per character not account wide. That's some next level greed SMH
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http://www.gameskinny.com/ziliq/black-desert-online-inventory-quest-list-and-how-to-train-strength
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10hHbShPIf02IZYHS7pj0vYnnxq7WmPAl2I6o8ev69GU/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0
It's sad when you have locks and do quest to unlock !
These inventory slots are similar to bags that you get from other games and even WoW had them. You were given a bag to collect some ingredients and you could more often than not keep that bag. I remember in Everquest one quest gave you this monstrously heavy box to cart about to collect something, my memory fails me here and my poor enchanter who had such low strength as is still used it as an expansion to my inventory space because bags were so hard to come by and inventory space so restricted. I also waited as long as I could before returning to the NPC and returning the blasted box to complete the quest.
The minute an Asian game with a cash shop uses quests to unlock inventory space it is described as sad when this same method already existed in other games.
ummm I think its called basic game progression.... I guess people are so use to buying DLC that theyve forgoten that you use to have to play games to unlock features and upgrades
THIS.
BTW, did you know that games without monthly subs needs to make money somehow? If you are a lazy child than just grab mommy's credit card.
Its not just BDO that use the PTE model, many titles do this including SWTOR and ESO to name a few.
Devs have to find more and more new ways to get players to spend ever more money or they won't survive.
CCP recently reported "record" revenues. As they certainly have no where near record numbers of paying accounts logged in, either their smaller games like Valkyre or Gunjack are doing far better than most think or they are finding ways to get more money from current customers in EVE.
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You really think it's about survival? No wonder so many of you are willing to rationalize monetization schemes that do harm to games if you think you're really looking at a game / no game scenario.
You don't think that just maybe what you're really looking at is profit / bigger profit?
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10hHbShPIf02IZYHS7pj0vYnnxq7WmPAl2I6o8ev69GU/edit#gid=0
Been playing since release and never spent a dime in the cash shop. As much as I want that Archer Costume Set for my Tamer I am still waiting to see if I can get it out of the Market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHg3j4C03Nw
It had the effect of putting a price tag on a chance for loot from a boss which is one of the oldest mechanics in the genre. Really disgusting.
The trick is to never put the player in a position to make an overall judgement of whether the game is worth the total price (monthly sub). Just constantly place small barriers and annoyances in the way and the player will justify the spend in the moment.
I just don't get why more people don't see these constantly poking the customer business tactics as insulting. Its probably because like slot machines in a casino, MMOs have an 'in the zone' effect where a player can space out and go through the motions and is willing to pay to make sure that cycle is not interrupted.
No. We see it as "getting what they paid for." If they paid nothing then they should expect to get nothing. And just STHU. Developers are not in the business to make FREE games, they are in the business of making money to pay employees. If it's not fun, then don't play. I don't want to hear anyone's gripe of how much fun they are having and being forced to spend money to continue having fun.
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As if it could exist, without being payed for.
F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
You don't want to hear it but you went out of your way to post in a thread about it.....just saying.
The inventory management meta game is what killed it for me.
Loot actually stays for a good while after the boss dies, and the respawn locations are generally like ten feet away. With a few exceptions to the latter. I rarely use Tears, except for the free ones you get from events.
On top of that, those world boss mechanics CAN be avoided very easily in case of most of them. Karanda is a bit of the exception, although there are some players that are ridiculously good at dodging her stuff too.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
Its the developers and marketers who are constantly spamming F2P! F2P! Amazing experience F2P! Unparalleled world F2P! "Its phenomenal" Play 4 Free!!!
How come few ever complain about this gross misrepresentation?
People get angry because they actually enjoy a lot of aspects of the game, but the lowest common denominator and sleazy business tactics that go after gullible whales and gambling addicts make it unplayable.
Yeah, I know. I'm just hoping that others will read the whole thread and make up their own minds.
Well I'm thinking of EVE now, CCP recently announced record income, yet clearly their flagship game EVE is lagging in terms of number of paying subs, down about 50% from its heyday judging from the number of folks online at any more time these days.
They made up for the decline in paying subs by finding alternate ways to monetize the game including skins, skill extractors, costumes etc to keep it viable despite the game's age and lack of significant content adds for quite some time.
Without these changes, I do question if CCP would have survived seeing how they pretty much botched up most everything else new they tried, including Dust514 and WOD.
I know, they've got some VR titles out on the market now, but I doubt they are significant revenue generators, EVEs still the cash cow.
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Any evidence the new VR games are gaining any traction and generating significant revenues yet?
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