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WizGamerWizGamer Member UncommonPosts: 403
It has such a fantastic company behind it. They are always listening to their players and make the fixes that are necessary. For example, there was a post about how a player wanted to have dual-wield slots on his hotbar and what do you know? Today, Turbine released a list of only SOME of the fixes in their new module update and his dual-wield is on there along with numerous other things. They really listened to their community more than any other company. It is amazing. I really didn' t expect this much:                          http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21545                                                                     (did I mention thats only SOME of the update)                                                                                         This is well worth fifteen bucks if they are going to add new content and update stuff this efficiently. Go to the official DDO board for more information.

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  • CoHsucksCoHsucks Member Posts: 197


    Originally posted by WizGamer
    It has such a fantastic company behind it. They are always listening to their players and make the fixes that are necessary. For example, there was a post about how a player wanted to have dual-wield slots on his hotbar and what do you know? Today, Turbine released a list of only SOME of the fixes in their new module update and his dual-wield is on there along with numerous other things. They really listened to their community more than any other company. It is amazing. I really didn' t expect this much:                          http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21545                                                                     (did I mention thats only SOME of the update)                                                                                         This is well worth fifteen bucks if they are going to add new content and update stuff this efficiently. Go to the official DDO board for more information.

    You mean the dual weild key that should have been in the alpha version of the game?

    When the players are simply asking for basic functionality and bug-fixes, its not a big deal that they listen. How low must your expectations of an MMO be to be impressed that they are fixing stuff that has been broken since before release?

    BTW, its not cool to post under a fake name Ken Troop.


  • KienKien Member Posts: 520
    I agree with the previous poster... that problem has been around for a long, long time. It was a big enough problem that it should have been addressed in beta.

    Regarding the other changes... yes, it's good they are finally getting to those bugs. Just goes to support my theory that the game will be a lot more balanced and enjoyable after Turbine has a few dozen major patches behind them.


  • WizGamerWizGamer Member UncommonPosts: 403
    I see your point. I wasn't aware of that being a problem that long. Still, the company is at least addressing the issue. Better late than never. BTW, who the hell is ken troop?

  • CoHsucksCoHsucks Member Posts: 197
    Lol!

    It was a joke. Try googling his name.


  • Ian_HawkmoonIan_Hawkmoon Member Posts: 365

    First off, you are obviously not a player of Turbine games such as AC1 and the now dead AC2...  This is typical Turbine stuff.  List a lot of stuff that should have been fixed before to make it look like they are really doing a lot. 

    Plus, if you notice...  Almost everything listed is a fix for something broke, or a nerf of something.  Where is the list of new content that is going to be in the update module?  If they follow their usual thing, they won't post much if anything to do with the new content.

    And as was posted before, this is not really efficient, since most have been known a long time.

    TTFN

  • LamethrowerLamethrower Member Posts: 82
    I'm just waiting for them to suddenly pull the plug without warning right after releasing an expansion pack again.

  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194


    Originally posted by Lamethrower
    I'm just waiting for them to suddenly pull the plug without warning right after releasing an expansion pack again.

    Eheh exactly, that was very professional from Turbine.
    But then again, what do you expect from a company that make games of dubious quality such AC2 and DDO.

  • WizGamerWizGamer Member UncommonPosts: 403
    my first mmo was AC1 and i played AC2 for about a month total

  • VyavaVyava Member Posts: 893

    It won't suceed because it didn't grab teh D&D market, the hardcore MMO market, nor the casual MMO market. That is all really.

    It is too forced and narrow minded for the D&D market. The Hardcore gamer can blow through it with a few friends. The casual player is already complaining on various forums that they can't find a group to finish a goal.

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378

    The guy likes the game and how the company is performing. Why do people feel the need to act like a big shot on the internet and rag on a game in every thread that praises it? I don't mean once or twice, but consistantly coming back to a games forum and crapping all over it. And why do I feel the need to jump in and defend the guys right to liking whatever game he wants? Cuz there's too many @$$holes in this thread, need to even it out a bit.

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  • Ian_HawkmoonIan_Hawkmoon Member Posts: 365


    Originally posted by anarchyart

    The guy likes the game and how the company is performing. Why do people feel the need to act like a big shot on the internet and rag on a game in every thread that praises it? I don't mean once or twice, but consistantly coming back to a games forum and crapping all over it. And why do I feel the need to jump in and defend the guys right to liking whatever game he wants? Cuz there's too many @$$holes in this thread, need to even it out a bit.


    The OP made a thread on why this game will succeed...  I am just giving oposing opinions...  What is wrong with that?  You do not have to read any of these posts if you do not want to...
  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378


    Originally posted by Ian_Hawkmoon
    The OP made a thread on why this game will succeed...  I am just giving oposing opinions...  What is wrong with that?  You do not have to read any of these posts if you do not want to...


    ...and I'm giving my opinion and I think you know what that is. You don't have to read mine either.

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  • WizGamerWizGamer Member UncommonPosts: 403
    Thanks anarchyart. I just like the game so far and the company. It's only the first month guys. We will have to wait and see.

  • KienKien Member Posts: 520


    Originally posted by anarchyart

    The guy likes the game and how the company is performing. Why do people feel the need to act like a big shot on the internet and rag on a game in every thread that praises it? I don't mean once or twice, but consistantly coming back to a games forum and crapping all over it. And why do I feel the need to jump in and defend the guys right to liking whatever game he wants? Cuz there's too many @$$holes in this thread, need to even it out a bit.


    Well certainly the OP is entitled to his opinion. However, the specific example the OP gave to support his opinion was flawed. He wasn't aware of the long history regarding the dual wield problem.

    As for why disgruntled former players keep coming back to this forum, well it's simple. First of all there is an alturistic reason. We don't want new players going into the game without knowing what they are getting into. Second, we paid a lot of money to play a game that didn't live up to its potential, so we have good reason to be a little bitter.
  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378


    Originally posted by Kien
    Well certainly the OP is entitled to his opinion. However, the specific example the OP gave to support his opinion was flawed. He wasn't aware of the long history regarding the dual wield problem.

    As for why disgruntled former players keep coming back to this forum, well it's simple. First of all there is an alturistic reason. We don't want new players going into the game without knowing what they are getting into. Second, we paid a lot of money to play a game that didn't live up to its potential, so we have good reason to be a little bitter.


    Games been out for what, a month? Name one MMORPG that ever shipped complete. I'll save you the time, there has never been one. Give it a few months before you write it off.

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  • KienKien Member Posts: 520


    Originally posted by anarchyart


    Games been out for what, a month? Name one MMORPG that ever shipped complete. I'll save you the time, there has never been one. Give it a few months before you write it off.


    I agree with you that the game will be better in a few months after Turbine adds content and fixes some bugs. In fact, if you read my review of the game (it's buried in this forum somewhere) you'll see I suggest waiting a full year before joining the game.

    The simple fact of the matter is that DDO was released prematurely. As consumers we have two choices. We can either pay Turbine $15/month while we wait for them to add content and fix bugs, or we can pay them $0/month while we wait for them to add content and fix bugs. For me, the choice was clear.



  • CoHsucksCoHsucks Member Posts: 197
    The game is an absolute piese of crap, anyone of even low intelligence can realize that within 1/2 hour of play, which clearly shows how smart the fanny-boys are.

    They will still be saying in a years time "Its only a year old. (Insert other MMO here) Was bad at one year too!!one!11eleven!!11"

    These brain-dead idiots of low intelligence and blind devotion will always make excuses for rotten games, thereby allowing companies to keep bending them over because they will just ask for more.

    Fanboys are stupid, and don't deserve oxigen like the rest of us. they are detrimental to any game, as they see nothing but "The game is perfect<stick fingers in ears> and cry and wail when those of us who are smart bring up how bad the game is in every way. They don't value their money, the game, or open-mindedness. Sad, pathetic little kids who feel their world explode when the love of their life is called to the carpet for being terrible.

    DDO is a rotten, stupid, horrible bug-riddled game from start to finish(Two weeks if you play slow).

    They won't admit that though, they can't. The Fanboys will accept nothing but absolute devotion to their game, step over their own mothers to play it and defend it from people who are not blind.

    The game's sales have tanked, the servers are barren, the community is made up of nothing but these drooling blind idiots who attack anyone who dares point out the glaring flaws.

    All fanboys(of this game in particular) should be shot and pissed on.



  • BladinBladin Member UncommonPosts: 1,089

    "name one mmorpg that ever released complete"...

    Well honestly WoW was in open beta and had more content then ddo does now...

    what people have to realize is, you CANT release a half finished game at release, because you aren't competing vs half completed games.  Your competing vs full games.  World of Warcraft right now is in great condition.  DDO now isn't.  You can't compare ddo to wow at release because wow has already been released.  Same for eq2, coh/cov, daoc, whatever mmorpg you want to name.

    and yes if the forum just had good comments about the game, alot of people will be persuaded to join the game....I was, and I don't want to see people falling in the same boat.  Don't mean to sound offensive towards the game or your opinion, just ddo could have been better, not just because of solo.  the actual content, and gameplay of the game is just substandard.



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  • hadzhadz Member Posts: 712


    Originally posted by anarchyart

    Originally posted by Kien
    Well certainly the OP is entitled to his opinion. However, the specific example the OP gave to support his opinion was flawed. He wasn't aware of the long history regarding the dual wield problem.

    As for why disgruntled former players keep coming back to this forum, well it's simple. First of all there is an alturistic reason. We don't want new players going into the game without knowing what they are getting into. Second, we paid a lot of money to play a game that didn't live up to its potential, so we have good reason to be a little bitter.

    Games been out for what, a month? Name one MMORPG that ever shipped complete. I'll save you the time, there has never been one. Give it a few months before you write it off.

    C'mon anarchy, you know that's garbage!!  Just off the top of my head, two of the MMOs released most recently both shipped complete, Guild Wars and World of Warcraft.  Guild Wars was TOTALLY complete, not one major change in that game for months after release, and no one complaining (apart from some, who never give specific reasons, who "didn't like it").  WoW had a few server load problems, but it is basically the same game now as it was on release (apart from a few balance tweaks and extra raid content).  They both have their knockers, but the knockers are clutching at straws, as seen by the otherwise high ratings on this and many other sites (and their continuing popularity).  DDO on the other hand felt like an early beta on release, and after the new patch if you read the DDO official forums, it's even worse!  Now the mobs AI doesn't even work.
  • grndzrogrndzro Member UncommonPosts: 1,163

    It isn't the fact that it isn't complete or full of bugs that has turned us away.

    We wanted a MMORPG, they gave us a fully instanced piece of shiat, whith no chat system, no craft system, improperly balanced gameplay, that can be completed in 2 weeks. On top of that they shoved Eberon down our collective throat, and it tastes like Shiat.

    IMO DDO should have been based on a fast turn based system

  • lev-27lev-27 Member Posts: 30

    This game will succeed because... It just needs time! Every single MMORPG on the market was released with bugs, lags, server crashes, small content and all the other problems you are complaining about. Just give this game more time, because it has a great potential to become one of the best games on the market.


     


     


     

  • CaptainRPGCaptainRPG Member Posts: 794


    Originally posted by grndzro
    IMO DDO should have been based on a fast turn based system


    Fast turn-based is an onxymoron. You cannot make the gameplay fast and fluent while keeping making every player and foe take turns in combat. Simply put, DDO can only exist as either a real time turn-based system to keep it traditional or reality time interactive gameplay, ignoring the old system of DnD.
  • CaptainRPGCaptainRPG Member Posts: 794


    Originally posted by lev-27

    This game will succeed because... It just needs time! Every single MMORPG on the market was released with bugs, lags, server crashes, small content and all the other problems you are complaining about. Just give this game more time, because it has a great potential to become one of the best games on the market.

















    Thank you, Ken Troop.
  • CoHsucksCoHsucks Member Posts: 197


    Originally posted by CaptainRPG

    Originally posted by lev-27

    This game will succeed because... It just needs time! Every single MMORPG on the market was released with bugs, lags, server crashes, small content and all the other problems you are complaining about. Just give this game more time, because it has a great potential to become one of the best games on the market.

















    Thank you, Ken Troop.

    I heard they canned Troop. Word is he was fired. Gee, i wonder why? Maybe because he has furthered gamer's impression that Turbine is incapable of making a good decision? That the game has tanked and is dying fast?
    Its too late for DDO, turn out the lights the bad party is over.

    BTW, why is DDO even on a site for MMOs? Its as far from an MMO as Tetris.
  • TatsitTatsit Member Posts: 194


    Originally posted by CaptainRPG

    Originally posted by lev-27

    This game will succeed because... It just needs time! Every single MMORPG on the market was released with bugs, lags, server crashes, small content and all the other problems you are complaining about. Just give this game more time, because it has a great potential to become one of the best games on the market.





    Well here is the thing,  A games future can easily be predicted usually in the first month or two.  It sold well at first because it had a lot of hype, but were are all the players going?  that is a bad sign that something is fundementally wrong..  content or not something is wrong.

    I think turbine should change there name build a game based on what people want, not what they think the players want.

    I played D&D for years back in the pnp days, i commend them for the effort and how close they came, but I think they tried too hard to make it a pnp game, that is not realistic for the online gamer.  Personally this game would have succeeded if they mixed both elements of pnp and standard mmorpg....

    well just have to see what the future holds.

    Tatsit
    Tantus Games
    COO/Game Director

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