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Eurogamer - Big Interview With Chris Roberts

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  • VikingirVikingir Member UncommonPosts: 162
    Erillion said:

    Whatever it is, it clearly works well to promote sales by enhancing visibility.
    Yes, indeed.

    About access to the game, backers have had that since the beginning. At one time CIG introduced Alpha Slots for $5 purchase from those who didn't have Alpha access from an early pledge. These slots ran out on April 16th 2014. Some time later CIG decided to open up Alpha access to all backers and refunded everyone who'd bought Alpha Slots.

    The Hangar module was released on August 30, 2013.
    Arena Commander (AC) was released on June 6, 2014.
    The Social module / Arc Corp was released on August 29, 2015.
    Star Marine (SM) was released on December 24th, 2016.

    So backers have had plenty of "early access". Chris Roberts and CIG have done a lot to satisfy backers with early gameplay trial. I'd argue that both AC and SM are playable now to a degree where people who wonder about how space combat and FPS will work in Star Citizen can get a decent idea by playing these modules themselves. They're not finished, but well enough developed to show how these playstyles will function in the game.
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  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy Member EpicPosts: 3,502
    edited September 2017
    Erillion said:
    Excession said:
    Babuinix said:
    I like how they keep helping promoting Star Citizen for free whille thinking they are attacking it lol. And they still wonder why funding keeps going and backers keep growing hihi
    Most of it is neither attacking or promoting SC, just taking the piss out of all things SC when the situation arises, which is quite often.
    Whatever it is, it clearly works well to promote sales by enhancing visibility.

    Have fun

    What proof is there that it has any bearing on their sales?

  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,328
    edited September 2017

    What proof is there that it has any bearing on their sales?

    If you want proof, name me another crowdfunded computer game that brought in around 160 M$.


    Have fun
    Excession
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,467
    For every refund Star Citizen gets another million.  $200millions here we go lol
    ExcessionrpmcmurphyVikingir
  • sgelsgel Member EpicPosts: 2,197
    Erillion said:

    What proof is there that it has any bearing on their sales?

    If you want proof, name me another crowdfunded computer game that brought in around 160 M$.


    Have fun
    Bulletproof logic. :D

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  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Erillion said:
    Excession said:
    Babuinix said:
    I like how they keep helping promoting Star Citizen for free whille thinking they are attacking it lol. And they still wonder why funding keeps going and backers keep growing hihi
    Most of it is neither attacking or promoting SC, just taking the piss out of all things SC when the situation arises, which is quite often.
    Whatever it is, it clearly works well to promote sales by enhancing visibility.

    Have fun

    What proof is there that it has any bearing on their sales?


    Streisand Effect
    Erillion

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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    CrazKanuk said:
    Erillion said:
    Excession said:
    Babuinix said:
    I like how they keep helping promoting Star Citizen for free whille thinking they are attacking it lol. And they still wonder why funding keeps going and backers keep growing hihi
    Most of it is neither attacking or promoting SC, just taking the piss out of all things SC when the situation arises, which is quite often.
    Whatever it is, it clearly works well to promote sales by enhancing visibility.

    Have fun

    What proof is there that it has any bearing on their sales?


    Streisand Effect
    That's not proof, it's just a possible explanation.  You need to show a direct correlation, at least, and then use more evidence to prove causation of the correlation.

    But it did sound good as a snappy response, was short and sweet.

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  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy Member EpicPosts: 3,502
    CrazKanuk said:
    Erillion said:
    Excession said:
    Babuinix said:
    I like how they keep helping promoting Star Citizen for free whille thinking they are attacking it lol. And they still wonder why funding keeps going and backers keep growing hihi
    Most of it is neither attacking or promoting SC, just taking the piss out of all things SC when the situation arises, which is quite often.
    Whatever it is, it clearly works well to promote sales by enhancing visibility.

    Have fun

    What proof is there that it has any bearing on their sales?


    Streisand Effect

    Again, just because something exists that covers similar situations does not mean it applies in this case.

    If people are claiming a subreddit (which accounts for less than 0.1% of backers) that hardly anybody knows about, how can they have such an effect on the game's funding.
    If they were on tv/radio with their protests and/or getting publication inches then fair enough but that's not the case at all.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,951
    edited September 2017
    Vikingir said:
    It was just as the first Derek Smart attacks started against Roberts wife being made CEO.
    Sandi Gardiner was never made CEO. She's been head of Marketing from day one, later (in 2013) made VP of Marketing. She's still head of Marketing with that title though.

    Well that is strange, because the email I got was directly from her. Why would VP of marketing deal with refunds ?
    A variety of reasons.

    If they have a small administrative staff she might be wearing many hats or filling in if they are overwhelmed.

    It's also possible that she feels keeping good graces with players, even  if they no longer want to play the game/be involved, is important and wants a notable face of the company to "thank the player for their interest and to try the game out when it is released".

    It's also possible that it didn't come directly from her but she wants her name on certain correspondence so they use an account that looks like it's coming from her but in reality it's being sent out by a CS rep or an assistant.

    I know for a fact that when I write my congressman and get a reply it's not "he" who is sitting down and writing the reply but assistants using various boilerplate letters.
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  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    CrazKanuk said:
    Erillion said:
    Excession said:
    Babuinix said:
    I like how they keep helping promoting Star Citizen for free whille thinking they are attacking it lol. And they still wonder why funding keeps going and backers keep growing hihi
    Most of it is neither attacking or promoting SC, just taking the piss out of all things SC when the situation arises, which is quite often.
    Whatever it is, it clearly works well to promote sales by enhancing visibility.

    Have fun

    What proof is there that it has any bearing on their sales?


    Streisand Effect

    Again, just because something exists that covers similar situations does not mean it applies in this case.

    If people are claiming a subreddit (which accounts for less than 0.1% of backers) that hardly anybody knows about, how can they have such an effect on the game's funding.
    If they were on tv/radio with their protests and/or getting publication inches then fair enough but that's not the case at all.

    It's not necessarily a subreddit, but the fact that there are threads on the subject everywhere and it gets plenty of coverage in the media. So, no, it's not the goons alone, but the fact that there has been constant and continuous coverage and discussion on the subject on the Internet as a whole. 

    No, it's not proof, but there is plenty of speculation that goes on in these threads that people seem to believe is proof, not excluding you, so I'm not sure why you are so quick to discount it. I would actually go as far as to assert that the Streisand Effect has had some amount of impact on the funding of the game. What does "some" mean? I have no idea. It's still more relevant than many "facts" given here.
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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,467
    Goons and overall haters (flight model salty's Elite Dangerous fanboys with inferiority complex etc) band toguether in their failed efforts to bring Star Citizen down. Sad schmucks have been trying for years now like it's a life goal but SC keeps on going lol
    VikingirExcessionrpmcmurphy
  • TalulaRoseTalulaRose Member RarePosts: 1,247
    Its fun watching the bar being lowered.
  • Turrican187Turrican187 Member UncommonPosts: 787
    Oh the local pizza shop got salmonellae in their toppings, 20 people got ill, 3 died ... its in every newspaper.
    I have to buy shares of this shop now that they are in every mouth (*sniggle*) the shares will go through the roof soon.
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  • sgelsgel Member EpicPosts: 2,197
    Babuinix said:
    Goons and overall haters (flight model salty's Elite Dangerous fanboys with inferiority complex etc) band toguether in their failed efforts to bring Star Citizen down. Sad schmucks have been trying for years now like it's a life goal but SC keeps on going lol
    Ironic that you mention an inferiority complex and yet you keep on mentioning Elite Dangerous with so much hatred ;)

    Why so upset?

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  • kikoodutroa8kikoodutroa8 Member RarePosts: 565
    Babuinix said:
    Goons and overall haters (flight model salty's Elite Dangerous fanboys with inferiority complex etc) band toguether in their failed efforts to bring Star Citizen down. Sad schmucks have been trying for years now like it's a life goal but SC keeps on going lol
    This post is full of win!!! : D
    Excession
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,467
    That's being amused not upset lol.

    This thread is full of win.
    Excessionrpmcmurphy
  • VikingirVikingir Member UncommonPosts: 162
     3 died ...

    (*sniggle*)
    Right ...   :/
    Cotic
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    Viking
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Oh the local pizza shop got salmonellae in their toppings, 20 people got ill, 3 died ... its in every newspaper.
    I have to buy shares of this shop now that they are in every mouth (*sniggle*) the shares will go through the roof soon.

    Do you have proof that it won't? It might actually be a great time to get in because their shares would plummet, but years later people will still remember their name. Tough call. Maybe I'm just a glass half full type of guy. Maple Lodge Farms had a listeria outbreak almost a decade ago that killed 22 people, yet they're still around today. They're a private company, unfortunately, so I couldn't invest in them, but damn I wish I could have! :)
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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,467
    CrazKanuk said:
    Oh the local pizza shop got salmonellae in their toppings, 20 people got ill, 3 died ... its in every newspaper.
    I have to buy shares of this shop now that they are in every mouth (*sniggle*) the shares will go through the roof soon.

    Do you have proof that it won't? It might actually be a great time to get in because their shares would plummet, but years later people will still remember their name. Tough call. Maybe I'm just a glass half full type of guy. Maple Lodge Farms had a listeria outbreak almost a decade ago that killed 22 people, yet they're still around today. They're a private company, unfortunately, so I couldn't invest in them, but damn I wish I could have! :)
    Don't mind them, they still think that putting fake review's about a place on tripadvisor can end their business when reality show's otherwise. Dumb&Dumber's logic lol
    Excessionrpmcmurphy
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