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Blizzard Actively Working to Stem the Tide of Toxicity - Overwatch - MMORPG.com

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  • MazingerZMazingerZ Member UncommonPosts: 52
    This will never be fixed.

    Blizzard will not get hard-assed enough because if you yank an account, you basically scare off people who worry about losing an account they're heavily invested in.  Even those who are decent players.

    You'll keep the ones who already invested, but they won't put as much money into and scare off future players from investing AT ALL.

    There are a number of games I don't put any money into because their banning policies are completely non-negotiable, despite the fact that they've made errors in the past (which took massive reddit threads to even get the devs to look in that direction).

    Stop spending time on this.  Provide guidance for people on how to proceed when the harassment reaches legal actionable consequences.
  • alivenaliven Member UncommonPosts: 346
    MazingerZ said:
    This will never be fixed.

    Blizzard will not get hard-assed enough because if you yank an account, you basically scare off people who worry about losing an account they're heavily invested in.  Even those who are decent players.

    You'll keep the ones who already invested, but they won't put as much money into and scare off future players from investing AT ALL.

    There are a number of games I don't put any money into because their banning policies are completely non-negotiable, despite the fact that they've made errors in the past (which took massive reddit threads to even get the devs to look in that direction).

    Stop spending time on this.  Provide guidance for people on how to proceed when the harassment reaches legal actionable consequences.
    Perma ban any harasser. Blizzard already proved they dont give rat ass about your monetary value or how much you spended on their game. 

    And yet overwatch sold 30 milion copies. It is safe to assume people want "not a single fuck was given about assholes" than what you are describing. 

    There are some games which i avoid ONLY because of fucked up community and devs dont giving shit about it because "boys will be boys" or some shit excuse to be worthless human being. 
  • tabarjacktabarjack Member UncommonPosts: 249
    aliven said:
    MazingerZ said:
    This will never be fixed.

    Blizzard will not get hard-assed enough because if you yank an account, you basically scare off people who worry about losing an account they're heavily invested in.  Even those who are decent players.

    You'll keep the ones who already invested, but they won't put as much money into and scare off future players from investing AT ALL.

    There are a number of games I don't put any money into because their banning policies are completely non-negotiable, despite the fact that they've made errors in the past (which took massive reddit threads to even get the devs to look in that direction).

    Stop spending time on this.  Provide guidance for people on how to proceed when the harassment reaches legal actionable consequences.
    Perma ban any harasser. Blizzard already proved they dont give rat ass about your monetary value or how much you spended on their game. 

    And yet overwatch sold 30 milion copies. It is safe to assume people want "not a single fuck was given about assholes" than what you are describing. 

    There are some games which i avoid ONLY because of fucked up community and devs dont giving shit about it because "boys will be boys" or some shit excuse to be worthless human being. 
    Right. So now instead, you take out flaming and shit easy-to-spot trolling and you open the door for all the concern trolls out there just waiting to abuse that policy. You clearly never had to deal with much if you truly feel that way, but we can help maybe.

    Supposing you're only speaking about chat harassers, keep in mind that thanks to the alt-left almost anything you say can be used as racism accusations against you. There's a lot of neat tactics that have been worked out by them to accuse those they disagree with and concern trolls are starting to pick up on them in a major way. Why not just remove all chat functionality instead? Simpler, no cost and actually effective. If you're talking about verbal harassment, there's your solution. But that wouldn't stop harassers like me.

    My favorite form of harassment is actually to play very badly and make tons of mistakes. I enjoy losing when the reward at the end is lackluster/nonexistent if that means I ruin someone's playing experience. I mean, I've been kicked from so many guilds and groups, I don't care. So you're saying that Blizzard should ban every bad player? Just how do you know that the player isn't simply inept and isn't playing to the best of his abilities? Have you ever played a game where only 1000 people play simultaneously?
  • fineflufffinefluff Member RarePosts: 561
    I don't play this game, but from what I understand twitch skills aren't as important as teamwork. What that means is that a single good player can't carry a match. So people who get good at the game become frustrated because they no matter how good they play as an individual it won't matter with bad teammates.

    This is an unfortately side effect of blizzard designing the game with a low skill ceiling (actually I'm not sure if this is the best thing to call it but what I mean is that the difference between high and low skill players, in their potential to contribute to the match / in how much power they have, is less than in a game with a high skill ceiling). The solution for players is to only play with a premade group or graduate to a better fps like CSGO.
  • tabarjacktabarjack Member UncommonPosts: 249
    naami said:
    I don't play this game, but from what I understand twitch skills aren't as important as teamwork. What that means is that a single good player can't carry a match. So people who get good at the game become frustrated because they no matter how good they play as an individual it won't matter with bad teammates.

    This is an unfortately side effect of blizzard designing the game with a low skill ceiling (actually I'm not sure if this is the best thing to call it but what I mean is that the difference between high and low skill players, in their potential to contribute to the match / in how much power they have, is less than in a game with a high skill ceiling). The solution for players is to only play with a premade group or graduate to a better fps like CSGO.
    Problem is that CSGO isn't better, it's just autistic. For example, the point of a shooter shouldn't be the memorization of awkward shooting patterns. 

    Also, pointing and clicking is not a skill. No matter how good you are at a game, you are not skilled, you're just experienced. Still, some people, and I really don't get why, just seem to hold being good at that as something worthy of someone's esteem, so when they lose, they cry. That's why I like to cause losses. Also because I got legit good at TF2 and started hating the game because using a medic vs no medic made life too easy I felt like a moron pressing buttons, I just want to not feel like a moron while playing that game too. So sucking is funny and logical.



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  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,405
    I'm glad they are doing something about this problem even if it is a herculean task it needs to be addressed and I hope a lot of people are indeed banned as a result because as they say 'consequences' that is an important thing for people who behave in this way.
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  • FrammshammFrammshamm Member UncommonPosts: 322


    Fighting against toxicity is expecting to rise the ocean level by peeing on it. Unless you make something that motivates to people to be positive is a wasted effort

    Fixing the mess of matchmaker would be a good start, is hard to be on a good mood after being raped in the ass 10 games straight since you are either grouped with incompetents or are just totally outmatched.

    Stomp or be stomped games with a few fair games here and there is not a good combination for good behavior. And sometimes you want to play solo instead of having to play with friends full time to avoid the salt levels reaching maximun levels that most of the time happens while playing solo



    10 game losing streaks and you still think its other people huh? Statistically, you are dead wrong about your stomp/bestomped facts. 99% of all the people bitching about unfair matches are simply travelling to where they belong on the elo ladder. You dont deserve more than 50% win rate, nor shall you get it. Going 0-10 is most likely due to you group queuing with other un-carryables and eliminating any chance you have of being handed your freelo 50% win. Seems that the only problem the elo system has is not being able to quantify how grouping 6 terrible players somehow makes them play worse than the sum of their badness. Its like you feed off each others' inability to aim and your weapon accuracy drops 5% more....if thats even still possible.
  • JunglecharlyJunglecharly Member UncommonPosts: 167
    tabarjack said:

    Problem is that CSGO isn't better, it's just autistic. For example, the point of a shooter shouldn't be the memorization of awkward shooting patterns. 

    Also, pointing and clicking is not a skill. No matter how good you are at a game, you are not skilled, you're just experienced. Still, some people, and I really don't get why, just seem to hold being good at that as something worthy of someone's esteem, so when they lose, they cry. That's why I like to cause losses. Also because I got legit good at TF2 and started hating the game because using a medic vs no medic made life too easy I felt like a moron pressing buttons, I just want to not feel like a moron while playing that game too. So sucking is funny and logical.
    The only logical thing you could do at this point is to stop posting. You don't make any sense, you don't have a point and you use the word 'autistic' to describe something you don't like. Do the logical thing.
  • DavodtheTuttDavodtheTutt Member UncommonPosts: 415
    I still say no matter what, there's no excuse for using the nastiest language you can think of and calling people all sorts of names. That being said, I do think it should be possible to make a quick-and-easy "playground" option for noobs and people who just like playing around with virtual guns, missiles, turrets, etc.  Then they could be matched up quickly, not be tripping up all the pro wannabes and not getting massacred by the ones on the other team and being chewed out with nuclear flaming by those on their own team. I think the Arcade Mode and the Game Browser are steps in that direction.
  • Leon1eLeon1e Member UncommonPosts: 791
    tabarjack said:

    Also, pointing and clicking is not a skill. 
    Well then, I guess kicking a ball is not a skill either and all those people going to stadiums to watch football are idiots. 
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    edited September 2017
    Leon1e said:
    tabarjack said:

    Also, pointing and clicking is not a skill. 
    Well then, I guess kicking a ball is not a skill either and all those people going to stadiums to watch football are idiots. 
    It's a skill for sure, but I wouldn't call it the same kind of skill that's on display during a football game.

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