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What's Up with Gazillion? Nobody Seems to Know, But Rumors Swirl - Marvel Heroes News

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited November 2017 in News & Features Discussion

imageWhat's Up with Gazillion? Nobody Seems to Know, But Rumors Swirl - Marvel Heroes News

Marvel Heroes Omega and Gazillion Entertainment have been pretty quiet lately. So quiet, in fact, that players and fans are beginning to speculate what might be going on behind the scenes, none of it good either. According to Massively, an October 20th update has yet to be deployed, a Halloween event, usually a big ticket in-game happening, didn't fire off and at least one employee has written that he's moving on.

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  • JakeSimJakeSim Member RarePosts: 884
    Game is just bad now. Dying, been dying on pc at least. Gg end of story. Sad because I love Marvel
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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    edited November 2017
    JakeSim said:
    Game is just bad now. Dying, been dying on pc at least. Gg end of story. Sad because I love Marvel
    Honestly, it's so much more...so MUCH more....than just the game. I'm...stunned. Literally. I can't believe Disney and Marvel haven't stepped in to get the company in order.
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  • cmacqcmacq Member UncommonPosts: 331
    A sad day indeed. Many of us saw this coming quite a while ago. The severe lack of consistent leadership has been evident for a long time.
    Tokken
  • DauzqulDauzqul Member RarePosts: 1,982
    edited November 2017
    It probably has more to do with the licensing cost. Disney is not cheap. Since the game is considered old now, I doubt cash shop sales alone is enough for Disney licensing, server costs, employees, etc etc etc.
  • ScottJeslisScottJeslis Member UncommonPosts: 355
    I have to agree with a Massively poster on this:

    "...check the top Twitch clip of the game, it’s probably the most cringe worthy thing you’ve seen, with the CEO openly threatening the Community Manager’s job, who currently is nowhere to be seen."

    I felt the same cringe that night!

    Also worth mentioning "A major Marvel movie launched (or launches, this week, depending on where you live) and there was no event, promotion or whatever, as is usually the case."
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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,059
    edited November 2017
    I usually have an idea of what's going on with the game and the company. Right now I have no idea.

    Some possibilities for the silence are:

    1) The CEO is being investigated or possibly removed by the Board due to his past indiscretions or the games poor performance. If it's due to his past discretions, then input from Disney and or the increasing press related to the CEO's past may have brought things to a head. They need to work through this before announcing anything

    2) Legal has called them out for opening themselves to lawsuits for bait and switch tactics regarding the proposed changes to the Omega Prestige system. Most people bought the OP packs for the 560% power boosts that were revealed. Nerfing those boosts could potentially open them to a rush of refund requests and barring that lawsuits.

    3) The Board has looked at the financials since the console port and and are VERY unhappy. The CEBro needs to make tough decisions which could possibly include dropping the PC or even console versions of the game.

    I'd expect to have heard of mass layoffs if they had already decided on cancelling a version of the game.

    This is truly unprecedented for the company. Complete and utter silence by all non moderators (including no posts by the Community manager just to say the delayed update will be delayed even further)

    Thew CEBro is the #1 problem with the state of the game. I pray he is getting canned.
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    Well when i first tried this game,i couldn't believe it took them awhile to complete the controller support.
    The game looked like an incredibly cheap effort,like some indie game with about 100k into it ,looked more like a licensing gimmick than a serious game.
    This has happened a lot in this industry,a lot of licensing products but poor efforts in the game designs.
    This Gazillion is not going to immediately fold shop,so i suspect some gimmick cash grab like some new monetary plan,perhaps adding cash shop ideas but i highly doubt is anything positive for the game,only their pocket books.

    Here is some food for thought....remember all those devs claiming "we listen,we keep in touch with the community?All one needs to do is contact their community manager which i am 100% certain this site does often seeing how this very low budget game has garnered a lot of attention over the years.SO imo lots of hush hush ,misleading conceptions towards the community.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • NeoWolf73NeoWolf73 Member UncommonPosts: 29
    When you ignore your audience, the people who pay your wage and keep your game afloat for essentially a whole year, and you tell them practically nothing yet you push out things for console folks, you talk about OMEGA and we see lockboxes turning up on consoles as something to "look" forward to., events not happening, new things just not occuring on Pc at all, the changes in the drop rates on cards, the release of a card pertaining to the next Marvel movie and for the first time ever ALL costumes etc.. being only obtainable via the RNG lockbox nature of the cards for the first time... (facepalm) then you have NOONE to blame but yourself to blame Gazillion for everyone jumping ship.

    WORST treatment of an audience and fanbase I've witnessed in a longtime. Shameful really. It's like watching a car crash and being able to do nothing about it, it is the systematic destruction of something great through sheer stupidity. Enough to make you weep and before they were doing so SO well. Crazy
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    edited November 2017
    hmm i see some very sketchy owners...

    Abu Dhabi,that is a GIANT when comes to mafia and money...as well Allen and company investment bank,a very secretive operation that is a VERY big player.

    So i understand how Abu Dahbi got involved with the  UFC ,we are talking multi millions.The partial sale "Abu Dahbi" maintaining a % in ownership was still questioned by the law as a suspicious sale.

    So i wonder why the hell these two giants would get involved with a mickey mouse punt game like this.So yeah there is definitely something going on behind the scenes and way out of our league to figure it out.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • cmacqcmacq Member UncommonPosts: 331
    I have a lot of time/money in this game as does @FrodoFragins I believe?. Think I recognize your nic from the MH forums? What is ironic as hell is I was called out in my last post by Frank "Fenexion" Sanchez for comments I made about the mess the game had become due to their leadership issues. I pm'd him after my warning saying I thought he should leave as the console thing would probably bomb and they are screwing their pc customers over as well. I go to their forums this morning to see a big thread from Mr. Sanchez announcing his resignation. I'm very sad to be right on this occasion.
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,059
    cmacq said:
    I have a lot of time/money in this game as does @FrodoFragins I believe?. Think I recognize your nic from the MH forums? What is ironic as hell is I was called out in my last post by Frank "Fenexion" Sanchez for comments I made about the mess the game had become due to their leadership issues. I pm'd him after my warning saying I thought he should leave as the console thing would probably bomb and they are screwing their pc customers over as well. I go to their forums this morning to see a big thread from Mr. Sanchez announcing his resignation. I'm very sad to be right on this occasion.
    yeah i have like 1800 hours in the game but only played this year to prestige before the free costumes rewards went away.  so that was like 300 hours of tedium

    I've had many dealings with fenixion and I definitely disagreed with how they moderated at times.
  • Meat_AxeMeat_Axe Member UncommonPosts: 3
    edited November 2017
    Don't look for the board to help or the CEO to get ousted. The rank and file employees deserve better. It should be known that Gazillion isn't the only board the CEO sits on as well. I feel for the employees, but I'm not spending money on a company who allegedly has a CEO like that.
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  • immoralthangimmoralthang Member RarePosts: 300
    As someone who loves ARPGs and Marvel, this game is just awful.

    I’d rather have another X Men Legends game.
  • MindTrickedMindTricked Member UncommonPosts: 41
    edited November 2017
    This game has fallen so far in a relatively-short time. None of the players have any idea what the hell is going on anymore, as the dev staff (what's left of them anyway) have gone mostly radio-silent. What they tell us is either vague or contradictory of previous "information." I fear the writing's on the wall, and we won't have to worry about the game much longer, but perhaps that's for the best. Hell, now I'm seeing that another dev is leaving (same post as linked in the article). Man, this ship be sinkin'.
  • SamhaelSamhael Member RarePosts: 1,534
    My guess is that if Disney/Marvel steps in, it will be to shut the game down. It would take a lot of capital (which they have) to take it over, hire new staff, etc. to come up with a way to re-kindle interest and bring in new players (which will take a lot of effort).
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,410
    Sick Bastard!

    These things happen a lot men get away with this a lot. When I was younger it happened to me too and no I did not try to report anything because my mother was living with me and I was the only person earning any money. Told a lot of people they felt sorry but no one did anything because men get away with this.
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  • Tiamat64Tiamat64 Member RarePosts: 1,545
    What's up at Gazillion?

    Absolutely nothing.  Sure is a lot of down, though, I imagine.

    Things were going so well for a while too until Brevik left.  After that, cripes.
  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member EpicPosts: 2,556
    Bad decisions no doubt but also extreme pressure from Marvel to push out skins and team ups for every movie that comes out so Gaz and their poor leadership is not 100% to blame imo cause you could see how hard doing almost anything was/is for them.

    If you think about all the junk cosmetics no one ever bought that they had to create for movies they could have spent that time developing content but the pressure from Marvel/Disney is real and wouldn't be surprised if mandatory promo events was a term in their contract. Cryptic probably knew how shitty it would be working with them so had the sense to back out early and just passed the project off.

    Also the politics of not creating skins for x-men and pulling f4 cause fox is bullshit the non-hardcore marvel fan doesn't really want to deal with when they just want to play a game and have fun with characters they like. Oh and lets not forget not adding heroes/skins that many people wanted like Namor or others because there wasn't a movie coming out for them. Those were Marvel's decisions not Gaz's.

    Yeah Gaz has bad leadership and filled their dev team with a bunch of entry level interns but that's probably all they could get(including the CEbrO - FF) when you look at how their numbers have dropped over the past couple years after Brevik left. Super hero squad was a fun game though.
  • sayuusayuu Member RarePosts: 766
    Ah Gazillion, poster child on how to transform a bad game at launch into something great through years of hard work. . .then piss it all away.

    still, at almost 3000hrs played I got my moneys worth.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,088
    edited November 2017
    sayuu said:
    Ah Gazillion, poster child on how to transform a bad game at launch into something great through years of hard work. . .then piss it all away.

    still, at almost 3000hrs played I got my moneys worth.
    Well yeah... it was free to play, right? I played about 5 hours, got my money's worth too 

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  • KonfessKonfess Member RarePosts: 1,667
    SBFord said:
    JakeSim said:
    Game is just bad now. Dying, been dying on pc at least. Gg end of story. Sad because I love Marvel
    Honestly, it's so much more...so MUCH more....than just the game. I'm...stunned. Literally. I can't believe Disney and Marvel haven't stepped in to get the company in order.
    No, I have no inside information. But, don't you think They have?  The Story reads to me like the plug has been pulled, the office if empty and there is no one at the wheel any more.  Whoever has the job of getting the word out that operations are over, has failed.

    Dohrmann's alleged behavior may be the root cause.  Focus may be only on dealing with this issue and not the game.  Meaning money is now going only to lawyers and potentially settlements.

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    As if it could exist, without being payed for.
    F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
    Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
    It costs money to play.  Therefore P2W.

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,059
    Konfess said:
    SBFord said:
    JakeSim said:
    Game is just bad now. Dying, been dying on pc at least. Gg end of story. Sad because I love Marvel
    Honestly, it's so much more...so MUCH more....than just the game. I'm...stunned. Literally. I can't believe Disney and Marvel haven't stepped in to get the company in order.
    No, I have no inside information. But, don't you think They have?  The Story reads to me like the plug has been pulled, the office if empty and there is no one at the wheel any more.  Whoever has the job of getting the word out that operations are over, has failed.

    Dohrmann's alleged behavior may be the root cause.  Focus may be only on dealing with this issue and not the game.  Meaning money is now going only to lawyers and potentially settlements.

    There is zero info that there were even layoffs, which would be expected if the plug was pulled.
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,178
    edited November 2017
    There is one thing that has constantly boggled my mind and I think so little of human beings in general because of it. How do you live with yourself when you know someone around you is doing things like this to children. How can you promote someone like that or in the case of the Catholic church send them to another area to molest and hurt other children. Surely there must be a special place in hell for people who turn a blind eye or settle and pay victims to protect the perpetrator. The people who did nothing disgust me even more. They are responsible for the continued actions of these sick individuals. 

    Have you read what his ex wrote in the blog about what he did to children ?

  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    Konfess said:
    SBFord said:
    JakeSim said:
    Game is just bad now. Dying, been dying on pc at least. Gg end of story. Sad because I love Marvel
    Honestly, it's so much more...so MUCH more....than just the game. I'm...stunned. Literally. I can't believe Disney and Marvel haven't stepped in to get the company in order.
    No, I have no inside information. But, don't you think They have?  The Story reads to me like the plug has been pulled, the office if empty and there is no one at the wheel any more.  Whoever has the job of getting the word out that operations are over, has failed.

    Dohrmann's alleged behavior may be the root cause.  Focus may be only on dealing with this issue and not the game.  Meaning money is now going only to lawyers and potentially settlements.

    There is zero info that there were even layoffs, which would be expected if the plug was pulled.
    No info on layoffs specifically at this turn, but a couple have left "willingly" fenixion being one of them.

    Doomsaw on the reddit has updated with what he suspects is going on, at least in regards to the PC version, which includes taking it off of life support. 

    At this time it's reported that the console outlets, Xbox and Playstation haven't been told to pull any material, or stop any sales, and they are expecting updates.

    There is certainly something going on from the top down, and as others have mentioned, the CEO is likely the major culprit with others being complicit taking fault as well. Brevik and his wife have both outlined this recently, and with these types of allegations making the rounds in media and corporate culture, there is no getting away from it now. 

    What you say is also true though.  Legal has probably been warning them of the Omega Prestige changes they planned on implementing, which, in their mind, they probably were protected on due to the EULA, but in this instance it wouldn't save them.  This most certainly is part of the delayed patch as new Omega Prestige characters were set to hit today -- HOWEVER -- there are still omega prestige packs available for purchase, so the fact they haven't pulled them leaves some questions unanswered.




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