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Life Is Feudal MMO Early Access First Impressions "Is It Worth Playing?"

MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
edited January 2018 in The Pub at MMORPG.COM
TheLazyPeon goes 1v1 with Life Is Feudal MMO. :o




Life Is Feudal MMO is the online multiplayer version of life is feudal: your own, The game initially began it's development in 2014 and will be coming to steam early access in January 2018, What makes life is feudal MMO unique is that you're able to raise and lower ground, dig holes and survive the brutality of the middle ages either alone or with a group of people, the game also boasts a huge world size of 21x21 kilometers, 10,000 players per server and has a huge focus on crafting, building and roleplaying.



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  • FilburFilbur Member UncommonPosts: 254
    "I skip the tutorial and bash the game for my faults."

    Awful "first impressions" video by an awful youtuber.

    NazloklessMaxBaconalivenAlomarJamesGoblin
  • ShadanwolfShadanwolf Member UncommonPosts: 2,392
    Agree, I really don't care for  this reviewer.
  • NazloklessNazlokless Member UncommonPosts: 40
    edited January 2018
    Filbur said:
    "I skip the tutorial and bash the game for my faults."

    Awful "first impressions" video by an awful youtuber.


    my thoughts too. Ill just hit every button instead of looking at the keymap.

    haaa how he pronounces wattle fence

  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    honestly anyone who is giving a 'first impression' on this game is about a year late.
    'your own' has been out for a while now and its the same rule set and everyone who followed this game even a little bit knows the MMO version is just with slower progress and that is it.

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    I am inclined to agree with the other comments about the reviewer's methods. It's not a theme park.  Press everything til something works and then bitch because it didn't? If he's going to spend an hour random button spamming, maybe he should have spent that hour reviewing the key functions of the game.
    MrMelGibson
  • trialzonetrialzone Member CommonPosts: 3
    Sigh* Another cash shop :s
    Scot
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    Torval said:
    I am inclined to agree with the other comments about the reviewer's methods. It's not a theme park.  Press everything til something works and then bitch because it didn't? If he's going to spend an hour random button spamming, maybe he should have spent that hour reviewing the key functions of the game.
    He probably hasn't played a game where there's a consequence to poor skill timing and cooldowns. Hell, he probably hasn't played a game with consequences.
    Well as all was trying to do is drop a log which apparently isn't intuitive he tried the every button approach which worked.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    Filbur said:
    "I skip the tutorial and bash the game for my faults."

    Awful "first impressions" video by an awful youtuber.


    my thoughts too. Ill just hit every button instead of looking at the keymap.

    haaa how he pronounces wattle fence

    There's the thing, he plays the game from a "typical" gamer, who likely won't be willing to dig out the keymap.

    BTW, couldn't tell if he completed it as he heavily edited multiple hours of recordings into a short video, but he did actually do the tutorial,  which he felt was poor in several ways besides being too dark. (I wondered if he spawned at night)
    JamesGoblinMrMelGibson

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    Filbur said:
    "I skip the tutorial and bash the game for my faults."

    Awful "first impressions" video by an awful youtuber.

    I actually thought it was honest and consistent with his previous works.

    He made it clear,  he doesn't consider building things to be enjoyable content, a point I can agree with and Sean would vehemently dispute.

    He showed how the grind to build things is long, many others have stated similarly, he doesnt enjoy spending large blocks of time in general (he has to move on to the next game to review) so my guess is games with long, slow progression grinds of any type are a non starter.
    SovrathMrMelGibsonManWithNoTan

    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    Torval said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torval said:
    I am inclined to agree with the other comments about the reviewer's methods. It's not a theme park.  Press everything til something works and then bitch because it didn't? If he's going to spend an hour random button spamming, maybe he should have spent that hour reviewing the key functions of the game.
    He probably hasn't played a game where there's a consequence to poor skill timing and cooldowns. Hell, he probably hasn't played a game with consequences.
    Well as all was trying to do is drop a log which apparently isn't intuitive he tried the every button approach which worked.
    I had that happen in FO4 in the early stages. I accidentally picked up a roach I killed. It has been a while since I played New Vegas and forgot about 'E'. I wasn't sure why this dead roach was stuck to my arm. :lol:  After a save, reload, and picking something else up later I figured it out.

    The thing he did "wrong", as a reviewer, is not figuring out whether that was his fault or a game issue, or both. When I review a game I play it differently. I need to look at different things, experiment in ways I don't do when playing, and try to look objectively while also interpreting the game personally. The issue I have with many YouTube celebrity reviewers is that they're going for more showmanship and money than quality. Some pull off both, but not most in my opinion. It's why I like watching HiveLeader sometimes. He's usually entertaining and informative which is an uncommon quality.

    I don't really care though. I just don't watch them. Freedom of choice is a really powerful thing. Unfortunately most gamers seem to be slaves that are "forced" to do all sorts of horrible things they wouldn't otherwise do. :lol:
    Funny you mention FO4, after reaching level 70 and completing the mainline the game was getting too easy.

    Oh look, a dozen supermutants are attacking my base, break out the combat shotgun of doom (so oveepowered) and wearing the power armor of death I'd wade right in decimate everyone with 3/4 health. 

    Mirelurk Queen? First one I faced took all of the minutemen and me about 15 minutes to finally kill.

    Now, break out the "quad" rocket launcher of devastation which fires a free extra projectile that homes in on your target no matter where it runs....one single volley.

    So I create my new character,  rise to the surface, open my map of a quick look, and....couldn't move.

    I could spin around in circles but using the "time tested" trouble shooting technique of press every key I found I could draw and holster my 10MM but absolutely nothing else.

    Perhaps I hit some weird command combo to cause the issue,  but I did not go looking at the keymappings, I logged out and back in using an earlier save and rose to the surface once again with no issue.(But I made sure to move off the pad before opening the map again)

    But I'm a pro at this. 

    ;)
    [Deleted User]JamesGoblinMrMelGibson

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    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

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  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    Filbur said:
    "I skip the tutorial and bash the game for my faults."

    Awful "first impressions" video by an awful youtuber.

    It's very core to that yes.

    LiF is one unforgiving game that has quite the learning of a million nuances on many of its mechanics, quite the patience type of player, this type of reviewer is simply incapable to get past that and will just rant at everything.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    MaxBacon said:
    Filbur said:
    "I skip the tutorial and bash the game for my faults."

    Awful "first impressions" video by an awful youtuber.

    It's very core to that yes.

    LiF is one unforgiving game that has quite the learning of a million nuances on many of its mechanics, quite the patience type of player, this type of reviewer is simply incapable to get past that and will just rant at everything.
    Keep in mind "that type of reviewer" is very representative of a specific and my guess fairly sizeable portion of the gaming population who will likely react similarly.

    It's not a bad thing....
    SovrathJamesGoblin

    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

    Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

    Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,938
    Kyleran said:
    Filbur said:
    "I skip the tutorial and bash the game for my faults."

    Awful "first impressions" video by an awful youtuber.

    I actually thought it was honest and consistent with his previous works.

    He made it clear,  he doesn't consider building things to be enjoyable content, a point I can agree with and Sean would vehemently dispute.

    He showed how the grind to build things is long, many others have stated similarly, he doesnt enjoy spending large blocks of time in general (he has to move on to the next game to review) so my guess is games with long, slow progression grinds of any type are a non starter.
    I used to not like this reviewer as some of his earlier reviews felt more like a petulant child. However, I've sort of grown to enjoy his reviews under the "entertainment" banner.

    He does say things that are thoughtful and pertinent but I think you have the "right of it" as he does seem to review things from the average player side.

    He wasn't wrong in the glitches and it does seem (and yes others have said this) that the tutorial isn't great (not sure why developers have such a difficult problem with tutorials) but many of the things he doesn't like such as the darkness, spawning in the middle of nowhere, etc, are huge pluses for me (as I mentioned in another thread).

    So a good review in that it shows people what the game is about and those players can take what he says with a grain of salt and make up their own minds.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    Sovrath said:
    Kyleran said:
    Filbur said:
    "I skip the tutorial and bash the game for my faults."

    Awful "first impressions" video by an awful youtuber.

    I actually thought it was honest and consistent with his previous works.

    He made it clear,  he doesn't consider building things to be enjoyable content, a point I can agree with and Sean would vehemently dispute.

    He showed how the grind to build things is long, many others have stated similarly, he doesnt enjoy spending large blocks of time in general (he has to move on to the next game to review) so my guess is games with long, slow progression grinds of any type are a non starter.
    I used to not like this reviewer as some of his earlier reviews felt more like a petulant child. However, I've sort of grown to enjoy his reviews under the "entertainment" banner.

    He does say things that are thoughtful and pertinent but I think you have the "right of it" as he does seem to review things from the average player side.

    He wasn't wrong in the glitches and it does seem (and yes others have said this) that the tutorial isn't great (not sure why developers have such a difficult problem with tutorials) but many of the things he doesn't like such as the darkness, spawning in the middle of nowhere, etc, are huge pluses for me (as I mentioned in another thread).

    So a good review in that it shows people what the game is about and those players can take what he says with a grain of salt and make up their own minds.
    That's what I thought, many of his feature negatives are pluses for me so his criticism is validation that I might enjoy this game one day.

    He he really loved it I would have walked far away......

    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662
    Torval said:
    Sovrath said:
    Kyleran said:
    Filbur said:
    "I skip the tutorial and bash the game for my faults."

    Awful "first impressions" video by an awful youtuber.

    I actually thought it was honest and consistent with his previous works.

    He made it clear,  he doesn't consider building things to be enjoyable content, a point I can agree with and Sean would vehemently dispute.

    He showed how the grind to build things is long, many others have stated similarly, he doesnt enjoy spending large blocks of time in general (he has to move on to the next game to review) so my guess is games with long, slow progression grinds of any type are a non starter.
    I used to not like this reviewer as some of his earlier reviews felt more like a petulant child. However, I've sort of grown to enjoy his reviews under the "entertainment" banner.

    He does say things that are thoughtful and pertinent but I think you have the "right of it" as he does seem to review things from the average player side.

    He wasn't wrong in the glitches and it does seem (and yes others have said this) that the tutorial isn't great (not sure why developers have such a difficult problem with tutorials) but many of the things he doesn't like such as the darkness, spawning in the middle of nowhere, etc, are huge pluses for me (as I mentioned in another thread).

    So a good review in that it shows people what the game is about and those players can take what he says with a grain of salt and make up their own minds.
    A tutorial experience is the hardest part of software. Next comes documentation. Everything else is just time and money. Think about how diverse "the average" player is and then try to set up an experience that will tutor them through game systems in a way that broadly engages everyone, keeps pacing interesting, while also teaching people. It costs a lot for what becomes a seldom used piece of the game experience.
    Something akin to chronicles of spellborn's tutorial would be nice imo. Yes it would require some extra work, but if you don't engage the player in the first couple minutes you might lose him.

    Have some naval battle or something (Since you start on a shore) with a bunch of ships, and make some objective where you'd have to move, interact, and possibly fight before getting crashed on shore.
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    I have never found peon to be too bad,i am always torn between a review feeling sponsored or not.
    I have seen reviews of his where he is all giddy about ideals i find real bad but maybe he just truly likes those ideas.
    The video is actually an "introduction" and not a review.A review if after you have played a game for awhile and come back and give us feedback on the design ideas.
    Example nothing on the character design/stats.
    I do agree the tutorial is horribly dark.The world generator looks fake with tons of auto bumps on the ground.
    In essence it looks like less than where Landmark was at,so imo doesn't look like 3-4 years worth of work unless the team is like 1-3 people.Bottom line is that people should by now realize that survival games are never going to be triple A games,they are very cheap builds with very little going for them and almost no pve.

    I have been saying for a long time,if people want to just build cool stuff,go download the free UDK and use a good game engine and tools.

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  • alivenaliven Member UncommonPosts: 346
    Kyleran said:
    Filbur said:
    "I skip the tutorial and bash the game for my faults."

    Awful "first impressions" video by an awful youtuber.


    my thoughts too. Ill just hit every button instead of looking at the keymap.

    haaa how he pronounces wattle fence

    There's the thing, he plays the game from a "typical" gamer, who likely won't be willing to dig out the keymap.

    BTW, couldn't tell if he completed it as he heavily edited multiple hours of recordings into a short video, but he did actually do the tutorial,  which he felt was poor in several ways besides being too dark. (I wondered if he spawned at night)
    There is no "typical" gamer. Also, Peon willfully ignore hints, tutorials, etc to bash game, unless he was paid to sponsor it. Look at his Secret World (not secret world legends) video to see. He goes great lenght to not understand the game mechanics, instead just bitch about it. 

    Peon is probably essence of bad youtube pertsonality. 
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    aliven said:
    Kyleran said:
    Filbur said:
    "I skip the tutorial and bash the game for my faults."

    Awful "first impressions" video by an awful youtuber.


    my thoughts too. Ill just hit every button instead of looking at the keymap.

    haaa how he pronounces wattle fence

    There's the thing, he plays the game from a "typical" gamer, who likely won't be willing to dig out the keymap.

    BTW, couldn't tell if he completed it as he heavily edited multiple hours of recordings into a short video, but he did actually do the tutorial,  which he felt was poor in several ways besides being too dark. (I wondered if he spawned at night)
    He goes great lenght to not understand the game mechanics, instead just bitch about it. 


    Yep, that's what I said, typical MMORPG gamer.... 

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    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • AlomarAlomar Member RarePosts: 1,299
    I usually like Peon's videos, but this was atrocious. He's grown too accustomed to themeparks, easymode gameplay, and games on rails. Half of what he complained about was explained in the tutorial. The other half was easily obtainable information from one early explanation video or some research. This reeked of him just half-assing it because he wanted to move onto something else. 
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  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662
    Alomar said:
    I usually like Peon's videos, but this was atrocious. He's grown too accustomed to themeparks, easymode gameplay, and games on rails. Half of what he complained about was explained in the tutorial. The other half was easily obtainable information from one early explanation video or some research. This reeked of him just half-assing it because he wanted to move onto something else. 
    If you have to do research or watch videos to understand the game, then you can't deny there's reason in his negative first impression.
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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    Kyleran said:
    Torval said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torval said:
    I am inclined to agree with the other comments about the reviewer's methods. It's not a theme park.  Press everything til something works and then bitch because it didn't? If he's going to spend an hour random button spamming, maybe he should have spent that hour reviewing the key functions of the game.
    He probably hasn't played a game where there's a consequence to poor skill timing and cooldowns. Hell, he probably hasn't played a game with consequences.
    Well as all was trying to do is drop a log which apparently isn't intuitive he tried the every button approach which worked.
    I had that happen in FO4 in the early stages. I accidentally picked up a roach I killed. It has been a while since I played New Vegas and forgot about 'E'. I wasn't sure why this dead roach was stuck to my arm. :lol:  After a save, reload, and picking something else up later I figured it out.

    The thing he did "wrong", as a reviewer, is not figuring out whether that was his fault or a game issue, or both. When I review a game I play it differently. I need to look at different things, experiment in ways I don't do when playing, and try to look objectively while also interpreting the game personally. The issue I have with many YouTube celebrity reviewers is that they're going for more showmanship and money than quality. Some pull off both, but not most in my opinion. It's why I like watching HiveLeader sometimes. He's usually entertaining and informative which is an uncommon quality.

    I don't really care though. I just don't watch them. Freedom of choice is a really powerful thing. Unfortunately most gamers seem to be slaves that are "forced" to do all sorts of horrible things they wouldn't otherwise do. :lol:
    Funny you mention FO4, after reaching level 70 and completing the mainline the game was getting too easy.

    Oh look, a dozen supermutants are attacking my base, break out the combat shotgun of doom (so oveepowered) and wearing the power armor of death I'd wade right in decimate everyone with 3/4 health. 

    Mirelurk Queen? First one I faced took all of the minutemen and me about 15 minutes to finally kill.

    Now, break out the "quad" rocket launcher of devastation which fires a free extra projectile that homes in on your target no matter where it runs....one single volley.

    So I create my new character,  rise to the surface, open my map of a quick look, and....couldn't move.

    I could spin around in circles but using the "time tested" trouble shooting technique of press every key I found I could draw and holster my 10MM but absolutely nothing else.

    Perhaps I hit some weird command combo to cause the issue,  but I did not go looking at the keymappings, I logged out and back in using an earlier save and rose to the surface once again with no issue.(But I made sure to move off the pad before opening the map again)

    But I'm a pro at this. 

    ;)
    This is pretty much how all Bethesda games are.

    In Skyrim, I used to craft.......SOOOOOOO OP. Just by making it to about level 30 in whatever gear I can scrounge up, I am pretty solidly off in the game.
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  • eddieg50eddieg50 Member UncommonPosts: 1,809
    edited January 2018
    "I'm 45 min into this game and I've actually done nothing"---Lazy Peon. Great review, hilarious and so true, when a game drops you into the dark ages and expects you to understand a tutorial than they deserve a bad review, when a game drops you into Antartica after a terrible tutorial than they deserve a bad review.  Hardcore is one thing stupid is something else!
  • TokkenTokken Member EpicPosts: 3,649
    the game sucks..... that's my review.  tedious.

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  • CryomatrixCryomatrix Member EpicPosts: 3,223
    Torval said:
    Bloodaxes said:
    Alomar said:
    I usually like Peon's videos, but this was atrocious. He's grown too accustomed to themeparks, easymode gameplay, and games on rails. Half of what he complained about was explained in the tutorial. The other half was easily obtainable information from one early explanation video or some research. This reeked of him just half-assing it because he wanted to move onto something else. 
    If you have to do research or watch videos to understand the game, then you can't deny there's reason in his negative first impression.
    I'm not a fan of that approach. My start in Path of Exile hasn't been that fun. I'm pushing through because the title itself has name weight. The amount of out of game research I feel compelled to do is aggravating. Most other games I would have dropped by now.

    A tutorial is hard to do right but it's important. There aren't many good ones.
    Hey torval,

    I am a path of exiler, and you are right, i olayed rhe game for 600 to 700 hours before i lookes into the mechanics od how things worked. Read mechanics first and you should be set.

    The game is excellent, but the best part if the diversity and theory crafting and making either fun builds or overpowered builds or whatever you want. Also, play hardcore, only way to play. Just kidding.

    I hope you enjoy the game.

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  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662
    Torval said:
    Bloodaxes said:
    Alomar said:
    I usually like Peon's videos, but this was atrocious. He's grown too accustomed to themeparks, easymode gameplay, and games on rails. Half of what he complained about was explained in the tutorial. The other half was easily obtainable information from one early explanation video or some research. This reeked of him just half-assing it because he wanted to move onto something else. 
    If you have to do research or watch videos to understand the game, then you can't deny there's reason in his negative first impression.
    I'm not a fan of that approach. My start in Path of Exile hasn't been that fun. I'm pushing through because the title itself has name weight. The amount of out of game research I feel compelled to do is aggravating. Most other games I would have dropped by now.

    A tutorial is hard to do right but it's important. There aren't many good ones.
    Same for me man.

    Call me whatever you'd like, but when I'm playing a game, I want to PLAY, not research every nook and cranny before I'm eligible to have fun. Even games like tree of savior where there's no room for experimentation because respecs cost real money. Having to go view good builds online to focus on, else you screw your whole character is stupid. I don't have the time, nor patience for that nowadays.
    ManWithNoTan

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