I feel like this too. I'M all done with them. Been playing them since 99/2000. I just can't do them anymore. Also been playing a modded Skyrim again and came to realize why bother with Fantasies mmo's that are always trying to suck money out of me. Skyrim have over 50.000 free mods for it. The game will never get old.
it just doesn't look that great... also it being another fantasy MMO doesn't help. they've got loads of competition already and some of them are pretty good so why should i play something that looks worse than pretty much all of them?
it just doesn't look that great... also it being another fantasy MMO doesn't help. they've got loads of competition already and some of them are pretty good so why should i play something that looks worse than pretty much all of them?
The main reason is for the fans of the Ultima series. It's not a brand new title trying to bring in m illions. It's a game for fans of the series/novels. A niche game. It won't be for everyone if you don't like those kind of games or that storyline. The game did not have a huge dev team to create a massive world with game engines like WoW/Rift, etc. They used a Unity Engine to start their project and expand it to what it is today. That won't appeal to everyone and it shouldn't, but potential buyers should know this before getting into ahead of time.
I'm sorry but the game was launched when they let the general public buy and play it with no more wipes.
"Official launch" with characters and progression and land plots that have been around for over a year sounds about right for this game.
I agree somewhat , however its not launch until the content is in. there was little to none when that happened. Now there is a lot of content and quests. R52 coming up pre launch release will have the other half that we were waiting for as well the surprise stuff they keep talking about that we are in the dark that they wanted to hold back until release so us long playing people get something more then expected
I'm sorry but the game was launched when they let the general public buy and play it with no more wipes.
"Official launch" with characters and progression and land plots that have been around for over a year sounds about right for this game.
I agree somewhat , however its not launch until the content is in. there was little to none when that happened. Now there is a lot of content and quests. R52 coming up pre launch release will have the other half that we were waiting for as well the surprise stuff they keep talking about that we are in the dark that they wanted to hold back until release so us long playing people get something more then expected
I disagree - it is launch when they let the general public buy and play it with no more wipes.
A launch should first be a wipe of everything, houses and experience.
Whwn all start the game with the same chance placing a house as the other guy then it is fair play and a launch.
it just doesn't look that great... also it being another fantasy MMO doesn't help. they've got loads of competition already and some of them are pretty good so why should i play something that looks worse than pretty much all of them?
The main reason is for the fans of the Ultima series. It's not a brand new title trying to bring in m illions. It's a game for fans of the series/novels. A niche game. It won't be for everyone if you don't like those kind of games or that storyline. The game did not have a huge dev team to create a massive world with game engines like WoW/Rift, etc. They used a Unity Engine to start their project and expand it to what it is today. That won't appeal to everyone and it shouldn't, but potential buyers should know this before getting into ahead of time.
Exactly, Its another in the Ultima series. not sure if any of you remember Ultima Online 2 http://ultima.wikia.com/wiki/Ultima_Online_2 which was to be the non isometric Ultima which never made. SOTA was born to fill what many of us wanted back when we wished that game to be.
The Ultima Series are all based on similar lore and story driven. IMO if you are an Ultima Fan this would be that next upgrade. Mind you its not all where it needs to be yet but its going to be as the Dev's said the spiritual successor. The core of it is based on the same principles with some changes.
Things missing are the complete PVP system which is still being hashed out. they have a partial system in place for now which is not completely that bad but not what UO was. the online Story element is similar to that of UO (not based on single player ulitma games.) Many thought this would be a true single player experience which it never promised to be. Its always been MMO with single player ability.
Ocean travel is not in game yet that comes after release in chapter 2 with all the stuff we loved in UO, Sea monsters, pirates, navel combat, exploring etc.
The game has a vast crafting system like that of UO, no mounts yet but given the over world map (similar to Final fantasy map travel) there really is no need to mounts.
Combat has so many ways to play and you are not locked into a single class so its open ended system. (mind you could take years and then some to GM them all, I can't see it happening as the amount of time would be crazy)
Player driven system like that of UO where most things are made and or upgraded by players and sold.
Player towns this is new compared to UO. Not place anywhere housing to keep stuff a little more controlled. So Towns were implemented each unique.
Many dungeons for various levels.
my only complaints about the whole game are as follows:
enchanting and master working gear has chance based and failure destroys the gear. This sucks a lot. takes a long, long, long time to get to GM in these as the time and effort to get there is huge and sink of materials. but I look at it this way all that effort to max out crafting stuff pays in the end with sales
The other Loot Tables. They just started putting in loot tables but rare drops are just that RARE.... killed boss mobs, dragons, trolls etc. and for all the time put in you get a lot of trash lol. But the few times you do get nice things its really nice 1 ring alone that I know of can land you pretty much be traded for a deed or house or anything you really want. There are items like that in the game. i just wish that boss mobs had abit higher chance to drop nice stuff or at least something important always for crating stuff. I'm sure that will keep developing as the last QA they said they are working on loot tables further to give more to the bosses.
That's all I have to complain about.
I have not quested much beyond the main story as I have been waiting for final patch before release so that I know that all the content is there so I don't miss any -
Just my thoughts to explain why SOTA exists is for the people that love Ultima.
I'm sorry but the game was launched when they let the general public buy and play it with no more wipes.
"Official launch" with characters and progression and land plots that have been around for over a year sounds about right for this game.
I agree somewhat , however its not launch until the content is in. there was little to none when that happened. Now there is a lot of content and quests. R52 coming up pre launch release will have the other half that we were waiting for as well the surprise stuff they keep talking about that we are in the dark that they wanted to hold back until release so us long playing people get something more then expected
I disagree - it is launch when they let the general public buy and play it with no more wipes.
A launch should first be a wipe of everything, houses and experience.
Whwn all start the game with the same chance placing a house as the other guy then it is fair play and a launch.
You're definition of what a "launched" game is has no bearing on the gaming industry or Shroud of the Avatar. It's in black and white when you pledge and purchase your early access to the game. It's there everytime you log in. You cannot log into the game without being presented with that screen letting you know that and what they are doing... if you don't know that then you have not played the game at all.
Letting players keep their stuff is a privilege and gift to those who have backed the game and help play test everything up until launch. That IS what you are doing... play testing. Anyone who plays an early access to a game that repeatedly lets you know its a work in progress and tells you in great detail when and what they are going to put in the game to be ready for launch yet choose to ignore it... deserves to have their expectations dashed.
The never said the game would be a blank slate at launch... sounds like your are bitter. Were you going to buy a piece of land where someone else had one? What if there was a blank slate and you rushed to buy it and someone got there before you again... you going to whine about that too?
So really your points for hating on the game are really trivial. Hopefully those wanting to see what the game is like will see that and try it for themselves before listening to all the trolls.
I'm sorry but the game was launched when they let the general public buy and play it with no more wipes.
"Official launch" with characters and progression and land plots that have been around for over a year sounds about right for this game.
I agree somewhat , however its not launch until the content is in. there was little to none when that happened. Now there is a lot of content and quests. R52 coming up pre launch release will have the other half that we were waiting for as well the surprise stuff they keep talking about that we are in the dark that they wanted to hold back until release so us long playing people get something more then expected
I disagree - it is launch when they let the general public buy and play it with no more wipes.
A launch should first be a wipe of everything, houses and experience.
Whwn all start the game with the same chance placing a house as the other guy then it is fair play and a launch.
You're definition of what a "launched" game is has no bearing on the gaming industry or Shroud of the Avatar. It's in black and white when you pledge and purchase your early access to the game. It's there everytime you log in. You cannot log into the game without being presented with that screen letting you know that and what they are doing... if you don't know that then you have not played the game at all.
Letting players keep their stuff is a privilege and gift to those who have backed the game and help play test everything up until launch. That IS what you are doing... play testing. Anyone who plays an early access to a game that repeatedly lets you know its a work in progress and tells you in great detail when and what they are going to put in the game to be ready for launch yet choose to ignore it... deserves to have their expectations dashed.
The never said the game would be a blank slate at launch... sounds like your are bitter. Were you going to buy a piece of land where someone else had one? What if there was a blank slate and you rushed to buy it and someone got there before you again... you going to whine about that too?
So really your points for hating on the game are really trivial. Hopefully those wanting to see what the game is like will see that and try it for themselves before listening to all the trolls.
For some more competetive players not having a clean slate at launch is a very big deal to them, issues with fairness and everything.
Doesn't matter to me, I couldn't compete if given a 6 month headstart, heck I'd probably lose on my personal private instance.
But its been a fact for quite a while that no wipe is forthcoming so complaining about it is pretty pointless.
For me what matters is if those having a headstart can significantly impact my gameplay in negative way, most times I find I don't even notice, but then again I'm not the sort who goes looking.
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I'm sorry but the game was launched when they let the general public buy and play it with no more wipes.
"Official launch" with characters and progression and land plots that have been around for over a year sounds about right for this game.
I agree somewhat , however its not launch until the content is in. there was little to none when that happened. Now there is a lot of content and quests. R52 coming up pre launch release will have the other half that we were waiting for as well the surprise stuff they keep talking about that we are in the dark that they wanted to hold back until release so us long playing people get something more then expected
I disagree - it is launch when they let the general public buy and play it with no more wipes.
A launch should first be a wipe of everything, houses and experience.
Whwn all start the game with the same chance placing a house as the other guy then it is fair play and a launch.
You're definition of what a "launched" game is has no bearing on the gaming industry or Shroud of the Avatar. It's in black and white when you pledge and purchase your early access to the game. It's there everytime you log in. You cannot log into the game without being presented with that screen letting you know that and what they are doing... if you don't know that then you have not played the game at all.
Letting players keep their stuff is a privilege and gift to those who have backed the game and help play test everything up until launch. That IS what you are doing... play testing. Anyone who plays an early access to a game that repeatedly lets you know its a work in progress and tells you in great detail when and what they are going to put in the game to be ready for launch yet choose to ignore it... deserves to have their expectations dashed.
The never said the game would be a blank slate at launch... sounds like your are bitter. Were you going to buy a piece of land where someone else had one? What if there was a blank slate and you rushed to buy it and someone got there before you again... you going to whine about that too?
So really your points for hating on the game are really trivial. Hopefully those wanting to see what the game is like will see that and try it for themselves before listening to all the trolls.
For some more competetive players not having a clean slate at launch is a very big deal to them, issues with fairness and everything.
Doesn't matter to me, I couldn't compete if given a 6 month headstart, heck I'd probably lose on my personal private instance.
But its been a fact for quite a while that no wipe is forthcoming so complaining about it is pretty pointless.
For me what matters is if those having a headstart can significantly impact my gameplay in negative way, most times I find I don't even notice, but then again I'm not the sort who goes looking.
While that may be true, it doesn't matter with SotA as they've always stated you would be able to keep your pledge rewards/items. Been that way since at least 2014.
I'm sorry but the game was launched when they let the general public buy and play it with no more wipes.
"Official launch" with characters and progression and land plots that have been around for over a year sounds about right for this game.
I agree somewhat , however its not launch until the content is in. there was little to none when that happened. Now there is a lot of content and quests. R52 coming up pre launch release will have the other half that we were waiting for as well the surprise stuff they keep talking about that we are in the dark that they wanted to hold back until release so us long playing people get something more then expected
I disagree - it is launch when they let the general public buy and play it with no more wipes.
A launch should first be a wipe of everything, houses and experience.
Whwn all start the game with the same chance placing a house as the other guy then it is fair play and a launch.
You're definition of what a "launched" game is has no bearing on the gaming industry or Shroud of the Avatar. It's in black and white when you pledge and purchase your early access to the game. It's there everytime you log in. You cannot log into the game without being presented with that screen letting you know that and what they are doing... if you don't know that then you have not played the game at all.
Letting players keep their stuff is a privilege and gift to those who have backed the game and help play test everything up until launch. That IS what you are doing... play testing. Anyone who plays an early access to a game that repeatedly lets you know its a work in progress and tells you in great detail when and what they are going to put in the game to be ready for launch yet choose to ignore it... deserves to have their expectations dashed.
The never said the game would be a blank slate at launch... sounds like your are bitter. Were you going to buy a piece of land where someone else had one? What if there was a blank slate and you rushed to buy it and someone got there before you again... you going to whine about that too?
So really your points for hating on the game are really trivial. Hopefully those wanting to see what the game is like will see that and try it for themselves before listening to all the trolls.
Was no information on this during kickstarter when i bought the game.
The decision that the one's with highest pledge get to place first was decided a long time after i bought the game and a long time after kickstarter ended (Release 32, July 28, 2016) -
Game holds zero interest for me. Fuck nostalgia, give me something actually revolutionary for a change.
Soooo... why exactly are you in it's forum threads if it holds zero interest?
Ever heard of free speach?
Why should he explain himself to you?
Another fine example of trolling... congratulations! You've done it. I guess you thought that was a "discussion" as well?
Look who's speaking. You keep trolling everyone who don't agree with you. You like the game? Fine. They don't like it ? Fine No need for you to write tons of threads just to make a point or two.
On a personal side. The game is trash. Streamers don't even want to stream that game. Players base? Almost none. The game is really empty . Say whatever you want, the numbers don't lie and you can even get the game for $5 lol.
Really? So, its ok to troll if youre against the game... but anyone for the game cannot say anything without the backlash. Didn't see you talking about any of the others. You must be for team anti-SotA as well.
The game is great and its getting better. Don't like it, move on. You really haven't even played the game if you don't even know about the player base. It's larger than ever now. Evidence is in the game... try actually playing it and you will see. The numbers don't lie and prove you wrong.
Hahaha, this is crap. This only shows those using steam for the game. Plenty of players who DO NOT use steam to play SotA. But hey... embrace everything that suits the negative filter you use to view the game. This was and has been a direct download game way before it was brought to the Steam platform.
There are more players now than ever now and more and more daily as it gets closer to launch.
As posted above ^^ This is garbage... only shows steam usage when the game has primarily been a direct download game, way before it was brought to the Steam platform. People love to use those ratings as if it means something.
It's never been about high populations. It's not WoW.
The problem is that the game is launched. They give you due warning that the game is not in a state that should be considered as a launched game. But when you wait till what they call the official launch, new players will be confronted with a community that has a headstart of several years.
The game never launched. You gain early access as a backer to play but it's still a WIP and they tell you that. They have a launch date set already and have been working towards that.
And so what if you play a game where others have had more time before you? That's like that with any game you decide to play after launch. What, you want to just play only at release with games so you can have that feeling of being the best at something for all of 10 minutes until someone surpasses you?
What exactly is game killing about those players that have been around a while?
With that attitude, I might as well wait a few more years before giving it a try. Who cares if someone has been playing longer than me right?
A lot of people look forward to playing MMOs at launch. It's the fun of discovering a brand new world, a long side a ton of other players.
It's not the same experience playing an MMO that has been out for a while and is now a ghost town (especially at the lower levels).
The problem is that the game is launched. They give you due warning that the game is not in a state that should be considered as a launched game. But when you wait till what they call the official launch, new players will be confronted with a community that has a headstart of several years.
The game never launched. You gain early access as a backer to play but it's still a WIP and they tell you that. They have a launch date set already and have been working towards that.
And so what if you play a game where others have had more time before you? That's like that with any game you decide to play after launch. What, you want to just play only at release with games so you can have that feeling of being the best at something for all of 10 minutes until someone surpasses you?
What exactly is game killing about those players that have been around a while?
With that attitude, I might as well wait a few more years before giving it a try. Who cares if someone has been playing longer than me right?
A lot of people look forward to playing MMOs at launch. It's the fun of discovering a brand new world, a long side a ton of other players.
It's not the same experience playing an MMO that has been out for a while and is now a ghost town (especially at the lower levels).
Sure, go ahead and wait, that's fine. It's not like its not stated about what players, backers/pledgers get and will have. So its best to know what you're buying before dumping cash on a game and then being disappointed.
If you're one of those gamers that doesn't like others to have things before you do, you will probably not like the game. However, I'd still recommend to give it a try because it doesn't affect your gameplay at all.
Game holds zero interest for me. Fuck nostalgia, give me something actually revolutionary for a change.
Soooo... why exactly are you in it's forum threads if it holds zero interest?
Ever heard of free speach?
Why should he explain himself to you?
Another fine example of trolling... congratulations! You've done it. I guess you thought that was a "discussion" as well?
Look who's speaking. You keep trolling everyone who don't agree with you. You like the game? Fine. They don't like it ? Fine No need for you to write tons of threads just to make a point or two.
On a personal side. The game is trash. Streamers don't even want to stream that game. Players base? Almost none. The game is really empty . Say whatever you want, the numbers don't lie and you can even get the game for $5 lol.
Really? So, its ok to troll if youre against the game... but anyone for the game cannot say anything without the backlash. Didn't see you talking about any of the others. You must be for team anti-SotA as well.
The game is great and its getting better. Don't like it, move on. You really haven't even played the game if you don't even know about the player base. It's larger than ever now. Evidence is in the game... try actually playing it and you will see. The numbers don't lie and prove you wrong.
Sorry dude, the numbers dont lie.
You are making things up which tell me how desperate you guys really are.
And if you want to attract more players to the game which is your agenda here, why do you keep calling anyone with a negative standpoint towards the game for a troll?
If you want to attract more players you are really doing some bad work.
Really? So, its ok to troll if youre against the game... but anyone for the game cannot say anything without the backlash. Didn't see you talking about any of the others. You must be for team anti-SotA as well.
The game is great and its getting better. Don't like it, move on. You really haven't even played the game if you don't even know about the player base. It's larger than ever now. Evidence is in the game... try actually playing it and you will see. The numbers don't lie and prove you wrong.
Sorry dude, the numbers dont lie.
You are making things up which tell me how desperate you guys really are.
And if you want to attract more players to the game which is your agenda here, why do you keep calling anyone with a negative standpoint towards the game for a troll?
If you want to attract more players you are really doing some bad work.
Play the game first before making uninformed statements.
1.) If you actually play, you would see the surge in new players. You can see that by having player lists open of nearby players and those you friend on your friends lists. So anyone joing SotA now can see that for themselves. Just "friend" everyone you meet and you can see them in your social tab when they are online and where they are at... also, the "Nearby Players" window. Have that open as well and you will see. New players and veterans alike.
You don't play so you wouldn't know. You are extremely biased and do your best to embrace anything negative, whether it's true or not. Your posts show this. Anyone can look and see.
2.) Im not on a recruiting mission here. I'm here to balance the unfair bashing of the game by trolls hellbent on doing whatever it takes to keep the game in a negative light. Since my first posts, people can see what the trolls have done. Trolls don't like to be called trolls. It hurts their feelings and they need *hugz*.
3.) What exactly am I making up? Please be specific. Or are facts only for the desperate?
4.) Again, I'm not on a recruiting mission. It's a good game. Period. You don't like it, fine. I do. Others might as well. You've stated your hatred of it. Move along. But you won't... because all your here to do is bash the game and anything that pops up positive about it. It's what trolls do.
Really? So, its ok to troll if youre against the game... but anyone for the game cannot say anything without the backlash. Didn't see you talking about any of the others. You must be for team anti-SotA as well.
The game is great and its getting better. Don't like it, move on. You really haven't even played the game if you don't even know about the player base. It's larger than ever now. Evidence is in the game... try actually playing it and you will see. The numbers don't lie and prove you wrong.
Sorry dude, the numbers dont lie.
You are making things up which tell me how desperate you guys really are.
And if you want to attract more players to the game which is your agenda here, why do you keep calling anyone with a negative standpoint towards the game for a troll?
If you want to attract more players you are really doing some bad work.
Play the game first before making uninformed statements.
1.) If you actually play, you would see the surge in new players. You can see that by having player lists open of nearby players and those you friend on your friends lists. So anyone joing SotA now can see that for themselves. Just "friend" everyone you meet and you can see them in your social tab when they are online and where they are at... also, the "Nearby Players" window. Have that open as well and you will see. New players and veterans alike.
You don't play so you wouldn't know. You are extremely biased and do your best to embrace anything negative, whether it's true or not. Your posts show this. Anyone can look and see.
2.) Im not on a recruiting mission here. I'm here to balance the unfair bashing of the game by trolls hellbent on doing whatever it takes to keep the game in a negative light. Since my first posts, people can see what the trolls have done. Trolls don't like to be called trolls. It hurts their feelings and they need *hugz*.
3.) What exactly am I making up? Please be specific. Or are facts only for the desperate?
4.) Again, I'm not on a recruiting mission. It's a good game. Period. You don't like it, fine. I do. Others might as well. You've stated your hatred of it. Move along. But you won't... because all your here to do is bash the game and anything that pops up positive about it. It's what trolls do.
Twisting the truth wont make those numbers any higher. Calling all that have a negative biew on the game for trolls wont make those numbers any higher, rather the opposite.
If you want to balance the "unfair" bashing you feel the game is getting i must say you have chosen a very ineffective way doing that.
Making up what you call facts that is so easily revealed wont make your mission any easier.
227 as a 24 hour peak is not what i would call a surge in new players.
That's Steam numbers. That doesn't represent all of SotA, only a portion. Most were direct downloads.
Not sure what numbers you're looking for but if you're looking for "thousands" on at the same time, this is not that kind of game. They have said they'd do more changes after Episode 1 and when they actually market and advertise the game, then possibly.
The statements I posted above can be seen by any actual players. Not non-players making uninformed posts on threads trying to create negativity towards a game.
That's Steam numbers. That doesn't represent all of SotA, only a portion. Most were direct downloads.
Not sure what numbers you're looking for but if you're looking for "thousands" on at the same time, this is not that kind of game. They have said they'd do more changes after Episode 1 and when they actually market and advertise the game, then possibly.
The statements I posted above can be seen by any actual players. Not non-players making uninformed posts on threads trying to create negativity towards a game.
I can be positive and double 227 as a 24 hour peak to 454.
You should ask yourself why so few play this game.
Why do so many describe the game as a ghost town?
A steam review -
Founder since KickStarter. Would not recommend this game.
Lots of promises. Very little substance to them.
This is a game where people with disposible income or limited financial responsiblity show-off how much money they can throw away to show off to eachother since there's literally no-one else there to even care. RMT purchased towns and houses litter the world, vast, open, empty towns and cities. There are more towns than there are players most of the time, if not all of the time.
The gameplay is one of the worst in the genre. Not for lack of effort, but because that's what they're aiming for apparently. They describe it as being skill based but what that really means is it's grind based. Whoever grinds the most is the strongest.
The community is atrocious, the official forums will delete any thread based on a negative opinion about the game. Guilds will literally kick out long-standing members because theyre dissapointed with the game's direction.
I hate to say it, but TLDR SOTA: Promise Everything, Deliver Nothing
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I had fun once, it was terrible.
Why should he explain himself to you?
I agree somewhat , however its not launch until the content is in. there was little to none when that happened. Now there is a lot of content and quests. R52 coming up pre launch release will have the other half that we were waiting for as well the surprise stuff they keep talking about that we are in the dark that they wanted to hold back until release so us long playing people get something more then expected
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A launch should first be a wipe of everything, houses and experience.
Whwn all start the game with the same chance placing a house as the other guy then it is fair play and a launch.
Exactly, Its another in the Ultima series. not sure if any of you remember Ultima Online 2 http://ultima.wikia.com/wiki/Ultima_Online_2 which was to be the non isometric Ultima which never made. SOTA was born to fill what many of us wanted back when we wished that game to be.
The Ultima Series are all based on similar lore and story driven. IMO if you are an Ultima Fan this would be that next upgrade. Mind you its not all where it needs to be yet but its going to be as the Dev's said the spiritual successor. The core of it is based on the same principles with some changes.
Things missing are the complete PVP system which is still being hashed out. they have a partial system in place for now which is not completely that bad but not what UO was. the online Story element is similar to that of UO (not based on single player ulitma games.) Many thought this would be a true single player experience which it never promised to be. Its always been MMO with single player ability.
Ocean travel is not in game yet that comes after release in chapter 2 with all the stuff we loved in UO, Sea monsters, pirates, navel combat, exploring etc.
The game has a vast crafting system like that of UO, no mounts yet but given the over world map (similar to Final fantasy map travel) there really is no need to mounts.
Combat has so many ways to play and you are not locked into a single class so its open ended system. (mind you could take years and then some to GM them all, I can't see it happening as the amount of time would be crazy)
Player driven system like that of UO where most things are made and or upgraded by players and sold.
Player towns this is new compared to UO. Not place anywhere housing to keep stuff a little more controlled. So Towns were implemented each unique.
Many dungeons for various levels.
my only complaints about the whole game are as follows:
enchanting and master working gear has chance based and failure destroys the gear. This sucks a lot. takes a long, long, long time to get to GM in these as the time and effort to get there is huge and sink of materials. but I look at it this way all that effort to max out crafting stuff pays in the end with sales
The other Loot Tables. They just started putting in loot tables but rare drops are just that RARE.... killed boss mobs, dragons, trolls etc. and for all the time put in you get a lot of trash lol. But the few times you do get nice things its really nice
That's all I have to complain about.
I have not quested much beyond the main story as I have been waiting for final patch before release so that I know that all the content is there so I don't miss any
Just my thoughts to explain why SOTA exists is for the people that love Ultima.
I had fun once, it was terrible.
Letting players keep their stuff is a privilege and gift to those who have backed the game and help play test everything up until launch. That IS what you are doing... play testing. Anyone who plays an early access to a game that repeatedly lets you know its a work in progress and tells you in great detail when and what they are going to put in the game to be ready for launch yet choose to ignore it... deserves to have their expectations dashed.
The never said the game would be a blank slate at launch... sounds like your are bitter. Were you going to buy a piece of land where someone else had one? What if there was a blank slate and you rushed to buy it and someone got there before you again... you going to whine about that too?
So really your points for hating on the game are really trivial. Hopefully those wanting to see what the game is like will see that and try it for themselves before listening to all the trolls.
Doesn't matter to me, I couldn't compete if given a 6 month headstart, heck I'd probably lose on my personal private instance.
But its been a fact for quite a while that no wipe is forthcoming so complaining about it is pretty pointless.
For me what matters is if those having a headstart can significantly impact my gameplay in negative way, most times I find I don't even notice, but then again I'm not the sort who goes looking.
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FAQ:
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/?page_id=19
Pledge Info:
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/?page_id=60580
The decision that the one's with highest pledge get to place first was decided a long time after i bought the game and a long time after kickstarter ended (Release 32, July 28, 2016) -
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/final-wipe-and-lot-selection.44430/
One of the main reasons this game have so very few active players today is how developers decided to give favors to the real life rich.
http://steamcharts.com/app/326160
https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/456327/game-dead-before-it-even-started/p1
People need to know about the low population.
The game is great and its getting better. Don't like it, move on.
You really haven't even played the game if you don't even know about the player base. It's larger than ever now. Evidence is in the game... try actually playing it and you will see. The numbers don't lie and prove you wrong.
There are more players now than ever now and more and more daily as it gets closer to launch.
This is garbage... only shows steam usage when the game has primarily been a direct download game, way before it was brought to the Steam platform. People love to use those ratings as if it means something.
It's never been about high populations. It's not WoW.
A lot of people look forward to playing MMOs at launch. It's the fun of discovering a brand new world, a long side a ton of other players.
It's not the same experience playing an MMO that has been out for a while and is now a ghost town (especially at the lower levels).
If you're one of those gamers that doesn't like others to have things before you do, you will probably not like the game. However, I'd still recommend to give it a try because it doesn't affect your gameplay at all.
You are making things up which tell me how desperate you guys really are.
And if you want to attract more players to the game which is your agenda here, why do you keep calling anyone with a negative standpoint towards the game for a troll?
If you want to attract more players you are really doing some bad work.
1.) If you actually play, you would see the surge in new players. You can see that by having player lists open of nearby players and those you friend on your friends lists. So anyone joing SotA now can see that for themselves. Just "friend" everyone you meet and you can see them in your social tab when they are online and where they are at... also, the "Nearby Players" window. Have that open as well and you will see. New players and veterans alike.
You don't play so you wouldn't know. You are extremely biased and do your best to embrace anything negative, whether it's true or not. Your posts show this. Anyone can look and see.
2.) Im not on a recruiting mission here. I'm here to balance the unfair bashing of the game by trolls hellbent on doing whatever it takes to keep the game in a negative light. Since my first posts, people can see what the trolls have done. Trolls don't like to be called trolls. It hurts their feelings and they need *hugz*.
3.) What exactly am I making up? Please be specific. Or are facts only for the desperate?
4.) Again, I'm not on a recruiting mission. It's a good game. Period. You don't like it, fine. I do. Others might as well. You've stated your hatred of it. Move along. But you won't... because all your here to do is bash the game and anything that pops up positive about it. It's what trolls do.
http://steamcharts.com/app/326160
Twisting the truth wont make those numbers any higher. Calling all that have a negative biew on the game for trolls wont make those numbers any higher, rather the opposite.
If you want to balance the "unfair" bashing you feel the game is getting i must say you have chosen a very ineffective way doing that.
Making up what you call facts that is so easily revealed wont make your mission any easier.
227 as a 24 hour peak is not what i would call a surge in new players.
Not sure what numbers you're looking for but if you're looking for "thousands" on at the same time, this is not that kind of game. They have said they'd do more changes after Episode 1 and when they actually market and advertise the game, then possibly.
The statements I posted above can be seen by any actual players. Not non-players making uninformed posts on threads trying to create negativity towards a game.
I can be positive and double 227 as a 24 hour peak to 454.
You should ask yourself why so few play this game.
Why do so many describe the game as a ghost town?
A steam review -
Founder since KickStarter. Would not recommend this game.
Lots of promises. Very little substance to them.
This is a game where people with disposible income or limited financial responsiblity show-off how much money they can throw away to show off to eachother since there's literally no-one else there to even care. RMT purchased towns and houses litter the world, vast, open, empty towns and cities. There are more towns than there are players most of the time, if not all of the time.
The gameplay is one of the worst in the genre. Not for lack of effort, but because that's what they're aiming for apparently. They describe it as being skill based but what that really means is it's grind based. Whoever grinds the most is the strongest.
The community is atrocious, the official forums will delete any thread based on a negative opinion about the game. Guilds will literally kick out long-standing members because theyre dissapointed with the game's direction.
I hate to say it, but TLDR
SOTA: Promise Everything, Deliver Nothing
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197973744647/recommended/326160/