Slavery in an MMORPG

Onomas · May 2018

After reading half this, majority of you should pick up a history book and get educated. The ignorance in this post alone is amazing. And yes slavery in a MMORPG is fine, its been used as a currency since the dawn of man, and still used today. Is it right? Nope, is it wanted in modern life? Nope. But then again a MMORPG isnt real life either.

Slapshot1188 · May 2018

I was going to make an insightful post but I have to go back and see if my Thrall has been beaten into submission and will start making me better armor.

Horusra · May 2018

ikcin said:

Onomas said:

After reading half this, majority of you should pick up a history book and get educated. The ignorance in this post alone is amazing. And yes slavery in a MMORPG is fine, its been used as a currency since the dawn of man, and still used today. Is it right? Nope, is it wanted in modern life? Nope. But then again a MMORPG isnt real life either.

By that logic, sex abuse, humiliation, all kinds of perversions are fine in the MMORPGs, as people did a what of that in history. Let rape kids in the MMOs, it is just a game. I will strongly disagree.

You must not have every seen Barrens chat in the old days.

Slapshot1188 · May 2018

ikcin said:

Onomas said:

After reading half this, majority of you should pick up a history book and get educated. The ignorance in this post alone is amazing. And yes slavery in a MMORPG is fine, its been used as a currency since the dawn of man, and still used today. Is it right? Nope, is it wanted in modern life? Nope. But then again a MMORPG isnt real life either.

By that logic, sex abuse, humiliation, all kinds of perversions are fine in the MMORPGs, as people did a what of that in history. Let rape kids in the MMOs, it is just a game. I will strongly disagree.

If your MMO involves you mass murdering literally thousands of people can you really complain?

Onomas · May 2018

ikcin said:

Onomas said:

After reading half this, majority of you should pick up a history book and get educated. The ignorance in this post alone is amazing. And yes slavery in a MMORPG is fine, its been used as a currency since the dawn of man, and still used today. Is it right? Nope, is it wanted in modern life? Nope. But then again a MMORPG isnt real life either.

By that logic, sex abuse, humiliation, all kinds of perversions are fine in the MMORPGs, as people did a what of that in history. Let rape kids in the MMOs, it is just a game. I will strongly disagree.

That's already been in games lol. We were not so "offended" 10+ years ago. Humiliation? Ever play rust or any other toxic shooter/mmorpg with the childish element? Almost every F2P MMO has that. And we are talking about slavery, you go off on a tangent about rape and other garbage? Stay on topic, trying to make your apples sound better by talking about oranges lol.

Onomas · May 2018

ikcin said:

Slapshot1188 said:

ikcin said:

Onomas said:

After reading half this, majority of you should pick up a history book and get educated. The ignorance in this post alone is amazing. And yes slavery in a MMORPG is fine, its been used as a currency since the dawn of man, and still used today. Is it right? Nope, is it wanted in modern life? Nope. But then again a MMORPG isnt real life either.

By that logic, sex abuse, humiliation, all kinds of perversions are fine in the MMORPGs, as people did a what of that in history. Let rape kids in the MMOs, it is just a game. I will strongly disagree.

If your MMO involves you mass murdering literally thousands of people can you really complain?

You do not kill anybody in the MMOs, but the things with human perversions, including the slavery are not so simple. In general the pedophiles like to dominate over defenseless. It is kind of sadism and it is very similar to the slavery. The killing simply does not happen in the games. But the perversions do in your mind.

I play shooters, mmo's, pretty much anything. Never once did I feel the need to go shoot someone. Nor playing a slavery game would make me go want to buy one, or a rape game would make me want to rape someone. Its a game, and if people can not distinguish the two differences they should stick to something else.
So your logic is shooting someone is ok, because its fake. But owning a slave in a game will make it happen? What?

btw

https://store.steampowered.com/app/541190/Nodiatis/

Even steam has rape mmo's.

But if people can not distinguish fact from fiction, then you should probably stay of the internet.

Slavery has been around since the dawn of man, why it so hurtful to people that have never been a slave in their life is beyond me. All races, religions, cultures have been slaves at one time or anther. Its in our history from day one.

Slapshot1188 · May 2018

ikcin said:

Slapshot1188 said:

ikcin said:

Onomas said:

After reading half this, majority of you should pick up a history book and get educated. The ignorance in this post alone is amazing. And yes slavery in a MMORPG is fine, its been used as a currency since the dawn of man, and still used today. Is it right? Nope, is it wanted in modern life? Nope. But then again a MMORPG isnt real life either.

By that logic, sex abuse, humiliation, all kinds of perversions are fine in the MMORPGs, as people did a what of that in history. Let rape kids in the MMOs, it is just a game. I will strongly disagree.

If your MMO involves you mass murdering literally thousands of people can you really complain?

You do not kill anybody in the MMOs, but the things with human perversions, including the slavery are not so simple. In general the pedophiles like to dominate over defenseless. It is kind of sadism and it is very similar to the slavery. The killing simply does not happen in the games. But the perversions do in your mind.

Sorry no. You no more have actual slaves than you actually kill people.

cheyane · May 2018

The sun never sets on the British Empire.

Tiller · May 2018

I feel like this thread has gone all over the place and at this point isn't related to anything to do with MMOs and should just be locked.

JeffSpicoli · May 2018

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MadFrenchie · May 2018

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TalulaRose said:

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Slavery in a video game isn't, in and of itself, a bad thing. Depends upon the context and implementation.

alkarionlog · May 2018

ikcin said:

Jean-Luc_Picard said:

alkarionlog said:

... you will get a mature rate with is not a desireable thing

Sounds very desirable in my opinion...
Now if the game publishers would really enforce those ratings...

Every MMO should have mature rate. Except if you cannot guarantee that only children play it, like the Lego game. The fact some MMORPGs have not mature rate just shows how greedy are the publishers - child abuse - we care very much - now dear pedophiles play with children, our MMO is for everyone who pays.

the no desirable is the what a publisher and dev want, cutting access to younger peeps means less range of people playing and spending on it, just think, why some games get some changes based on clothes language or even art?

i'm really don't give much care i'm far more to liberty and let people be idiot so I can screen who I will live with, and yes that means even if the game was created with all things most people will cry wolf to every little thing, only diference now is we still listen to the ones crying wolf, when we should be ignoring then now

TheScavenger · May 2018

Nothing to say since really want out of the thread because this is an evil topic that no one should remember or talk about. Though honestly I thought it be deleted by now...but...

I am very happy with the way the thread has gone. I hope this gets deleted and not just locked.

Scot · May 2018

Geez this is getting so badly of topic I may have to go back to watching 24 hour coverage of the Royal Wedding.

Slapshot1188 · May 2018

TheScavenger said:

Nothing to say since really want out of the thread because this is an evil topic that no one should remember or talk about. Though honestly I thought it be deleted by now...but...

I am very happy with the way the thread has gone. I hope this gets deleted and not just locked.

Because the best way to deal with topics we find concerning is to erase them and pretend they never happened. Right?

There are many straight up assholes on this forum and they say a lot of stupid crap, but never, ever would I want them censored or “deleted”. The best counter for people saying stupid crap is not to censor them. It’s not even to argue. It’s to let them keep talking so they expose themselves.

Why do we all need GroupThink? Why are we afraid of letting different opinions and thoughts exist? That is the only TRUE freedom. Once you try to erase peoples thoughts then you are well down the Orwellian path.

Kids? Absolutely and 100% believe we need regulations to keep them from being exploited. Adults? Hell no. If someone wants to make a game with anything in it (including slavery), that’s their right. Otherwise we might as well start holding some good old fashioned book burnings. After all there are a lot of books about subjects I find evil and offensive...

Because a game is made doesn’t mean you need to play it, or support it. But to try and erase discussion about a topic because you find it offensive is quite a few steps down a path that is much darker... because ultimately it eliminates freedom of thought and expression.

Now pardon me as my Carpenter Thrall is just about to submit, and I’ll have to carry him up the stairs so he can cut me some wood.

lahnmir · May 2018

TheScavenger said:

Nothing to say since really want out of the thread because this is an evil topic that no one should remember or talk about. Though honestly I thought it be deleted by now...but...

I am very happy with the way the thread has gone. I hope this gets deleted and not just locked.

I see this topic affects you deeply, so let me try to phrase this as honest and subtle as possible. Isn't rewriting history, removing actual facts and turning a blind eye to what has been going on for thousands of years dishonest at best? Things don't have to be good to have happened and they have formed us as humans, society, nations and so on and so forth.

Slavery is still HUGE in the current day and age, do not be naive. Do you also believe we should get rid of literature from certain periods dealing with these issues, written in a tone and tongue tied to that? Is Huckleberry Finn bad because it contains common language from that period of time?

Because to me this ignoring of the subject is deeply offensive, as if it hasn't happened and we shouldn't talk about it. This is part of us as a species, the good, the bad and the ugly. We can choose to ignore it as a whole or find everything related to it deeply offensive but it is the truth, it is our history. And with our history I actually mean the history of mankind. People still stand up against slavery, honor their past, tell stories from generations passed to strengthen those in the now. This can and should not be taken away.

If it hurts you and you don't want to be confronted with it, fine, that is your prerogative. But it is insulting and a bit hypocritical to state that everyone that deals with the subject, no matter how, has evil intent. You can ignore it, but please don't expect others to.

You are right however that this topic is derailing and will probably be locked, I hope not for the reasons you mentioned though.

And OT. Slavery in a video game? It has been done before but I don't think it is worth the hassle. If you use it, use it as objective as possible, as an actual resource without a face or moral bonuses and/or losses.

My 2cents, I've studied English Literature and Translation Studies at Uni. Rewriting history and the books that go with it is like sacrilege to me. You can't retcon the past because you decided that you are embarrassed by it.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

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