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Bless Online is advertising for Guild Wars 2

TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
in Bless
https://i.redditmedia.com/d5OHpOaAiYAu4Iw53fUnIyXs4WfnGsc-AaXepwjaQaw.jpg?s=457366ab24d93a5f65240c0af8a05229

They must really love guild wars 2

Here is the reddit post about it

https://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/comments/8o26ko/bless_official_website_is_advertising_guild_wars_2/

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  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    edited June 2018
    This is my reaction to an MMO advertising for another MMO that isn't related in another way, with even negative news (bless "refuges") about their own MMO


    RellzTruvidien88

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  • HarikenHariken Member EpicPosts: 2,680
    To do this for GW2 instead of BDO say alot about Bless and BDO. 
  • IceDarkIceDark Member UncommonPosts: 207
    They have a Grabber script ( don't know if you know what that is ), which basically grabs News from major websites about Bless Online. They however, just added the Keyword Bless , which will take all related News about anything which starts with the word Bless and add the said News into their website.

    All they need to do is change the Keyword into *Bless Online* . 

    They are pretty bad ( as I said before ) when it comes to Marketing and such, but your reaction is more or less  .. laughable.


    The Ice is dark and full of terror.
  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    Meanwhile GW2 players are welcoming Bless refugees
    Octagon7711ElquinMrMelGibson




  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    Between GW2 and Bless, GW2 no contest.  It's far superior, even than most other current MMOs, but.. y'know.. bless isn't the worst thing in the world.  It has its moments.
    MikehaOctagon7711ElquinMrMelGibson



  • simsalabim77simsalabim77 Member RarePosts: 1,607
    Just when I thought I'd seen it all. It's really no wonder this game has failed in every region it has launched in. 
    MikeBElquin
  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    DMKano said:
    maskedweasel said:
    Between GW2 and Bless, GW2 no contest.  It's far superior, even than most other current MMOs, but.. y'know.. bless isn't the worst thing in the world.  It has its moments.
    If someone more experienced ran things, Bless would have a lot more moments, also it probably wouldn't have failed so many times already
    I'll tell you this though, Neowiz has been exceptionally amazing in terms of responses.

    More companies could learn a thing or two about their willingness to respond to issues.  Maybe this is only a temporary thing because it's launch, but every few hours there's something new posted about a thing that needs fixing that they are looking into or making a change to.

    They may not have balanced the classes properly on the last go round, but not even a day has gone by and they've already addressed it and scheduled fixed to be put in place.  I'm extremely impressed with their responsiveness. 
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  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    Lol! Some poor sap is gonna get yelled at for not catching that on time!

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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    edited June 2018
    DMKano said:
    Between GW2 and Bless, GW2 no contest.  It's far superior, even than most other current MMOs, but.. y'know.. bless isn't the worst thing in the world.  It has its moments.
    If someone more experienced ran things, Bless would have a lot more moments, also it probably wouldn't have failed so many times already
    I'll tell you this though, Neowiz has been exceptionally amazing in terms of responses.

    More companies could learn a thing or two about their willingness to respond to issues.  Maybe this is only a temporary thing because it's launch, but every few hours there's something new posted about a thing that needs fixing that they are looking into or making a change to.

    They may not have balanced the classes properly on the last go round, but not even a day has gone by and they've already addressed it and scheduled fixed to be put in place.  I'm extremely impressed with their responsiveness. 
    Bungie also responds fast and schedules things.....that's going well for them...

    As for the topic at hand....this really isn't helping them....
  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    edited June 2018
    wrong thread.
    "As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*" 

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • IceDarkIceDark Member UncommonPosts: 207
    DMKano said:
    IceDark said:


    They are pretty bad ( as I said before ) when it comes to Marketing and such




    Finally you are seeing the light!

    Neowiz should stick to game development only!

    So far they've shown to be bad at - managing a live MMO, testing any kind of patches, optimizing code 

    Basically - let someone else host, patch and QA the game, as well as market and communicate with the players.

    Also hire professional CS and community people.




    What? I already said that their Marketing Department sucks even before launch.

    But even with all the Marketing ...fiasco , I still have faith in them. They will learn how to do things better.
    LeFantomeElquin
    The Ice is dark and full of terror.
  • IceDarkIceDark Member UncommonPosts: 207
    DMKano said:
    maskedweasel said:
    DMKano said:
    maskedweasel said:
    Between GW2 and Bless, GW2 no contest.  It's far superior, even than most other current MMOs, but.. y'know.. bless isn't the worst thing in the world.  It has its moments.
    If someone more experienced ran things, Bless would have a lot more moments, also it probably wouldn't have failed so many times already
    I'll tell you this though, Neowiz has been exceptionally amazing in terms of responses.

    More companies could learn a thing or two about their willingness to respond to issues.  Maybe this is only a temporary thing because it's launch, but every few hours there's something new posted about a thing that needs fixing that they are looking into or making a change to.

    They may not have balanced the classes properly on the last go round, but not even a day has gone by and they've already addressed it and scheduled fixed to be put in place.  I'm extremely impressed with their responsiveness. 

    Sure they are responsive - but look at the end results of their action - the PvE nerf patch is a disaster, the launch - wrong ini settings, PvE ez-mode, 5 year old dupe exploit etc...

    I would be a lot more impressed if they took the time to test the changes - being super responsive and doing on the fly untested changes - any studio could do this.

    Quality > quantity

    If you took your car to a shop that was super responsive but they kept breaking different things on your car every time they work on it

    OR

    You took your car to a shop that took a week to fix it - but the fix was correct and your car ran fine.

    Which one would you be more impressed by?


    You and your comparations ...

    Is EA, so get used with. People who bought it and stop playing because of the Nerf, they will be back to at least try it again when Bless is in a better shape, since is B2P, so no biggy.
    LeFantome
    The Ice is dark and full of terror.
  • LeFantomeLeFantome Member RarePosts: 698
    IceDark said:
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Between GW2 and Bless, GW2 no contest.  It's far superior, even than most other current MMOs, but.. y'know.. bless isn't the worst thing in the world.  It has its moments.
    If someone more experienced ran things, Bless would have a lot more moments, also it probably wouldn't have failed so many times already
    I'll tell you this though, Neowiz has been exceptionally amazing in terms of responses.

    More companies could learn a thing or two about their willingness to respond to issues.  Maybe this is only a temporary thing because it's launch, but every few hours there's something new posted about a thing that needs fixing that they are looking into or making a change to.

    They may not have balanced the classes properly on the last go round, but not even a day has gone by and they've already addressed it and scheduled fixed to be put in place.  I'm extremely impressed with their responsiveness. 

    Sure they are responsive - but look at the end results of their action - the PvE nerf patch is a disaster, the launch - wrong ini settings, PvE ez-mode, 5 year old dupe exploit etc...

    I would be a lot more impressed if they took the time to test the changes - being super responsive and doing on the fly untested changes - any studio could do this.

    Quality > quantity

    If you took your car to a shop that was super responsive but they kept breaking different things on your car every time they work on it

    OR

    You took your car to a shop that took a week to fix it - but the fix was correct and your car ran fine.

    Which one would you be more impressed by?


    You and your comparations ...

    Is EA, so get used with. People who bought it and stop playing because of the Nerf, they will be back to at least try it again when Bless is in a better shape, since is B2P, so no biggy.

    EA...yeah, with how many releases? How many years of development? They might be super responsive but they suck at everything else.  

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    DMKano said:
    maskedweasel said:
    DMKano said:
    maskedweasel said:
    Between GW2 and Bless, GW2 no contest.  It's far superior, even than most other current MMOs, but.. y'know.. bless isn't the worst thing in the world.  It has its moments.
    If someone more experienced ran things, Bless would have a lot more moments, also it probably wouldn't have failed so many times already
    I'll tell you this though, Neowiz has been exceptionally amazing in terms of responses.

    More companies could learn a thing or two about their willingness to respond to issues.  Maybe this is only a temporary thing because it's launch, but every few hours there's something new posted about a thing that needs fixing that they are looking into or making a change to.

    They may not have balanced the classes properly on the last go round, but not even a day has gone by and they've already addressed it and scheduled fixed to be put in place.  I'm extremely impressed with their responsiveness. 

    Sure they are responsive - but look at the end results of their action - the PvE nerf patch is a disaster, the launch - wrong ini settings, PvE ez-mode, 5 year old dupe exploit etc...

    I would be a lot more impressed if they took the time to test the changes - being super responsive and doing on the fly untested changes - any studio could do this.

    Quality > quantity

    If you took your car to a shop that was super responsive but they kept breaking different things on your car every time they work on it

    OR

    You took your car to a shop that took a week to fix it - but the fix was correct and your car ran fine.

    Which one would you be more impressed by?


     Here's the thing, would you prefer the shop fixed your car after 2 weeks while you do nothing? Or would you rather you be able to use your car and they fix it while you use it?

    See the comparison doesn't make sense.

    They should have tested things a little better, no denying, and I'm miffed about the PvE issues, but here's the thing, if you're saying that the game is in worse condition than it was 5 days ago, you'd be wrong.  Every day they've put out patches to fix something or make things more stable.  


    You might say they didn't do development properly,  and I hear time and again, they had years to do this, they had years to do that, this "isn't an early access game"  and y'know, I would have to say, from their responsiveness they aren't treating it like an early access game.  But it IS an early access game, IE a beta.  

    The fact of the matter is, they aren't breaking something new anymore than GW2s balance patches break something new, it's balancing, they didn't "break" PvE, they just didn't balance it properly.

    Much of the game isn't "complete" but it is all playable in some state which is far and away a big shift from the founders launch days. 

    Not saying every change has been gold but I'm not going to hit them for being responsive and making changes when most of the time we hear nothing from developers for weeks in regards to catastrophic fixed and when we finally get something,  it's too little too late. 



  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    edited June 2018
    DMKano said:



    Early access is not the same as beta.

    Why do so many people believe this?
    Early access - means exactly what it says - early access to game - NOT beta.
    If the steam launch was beta, it would say BETA - it doesn't say that because it's not beta.

    The are being super responsive because it's their ass on the line - they just had a bad launch, they deployed a bad patch - it's a Saturday night and the managed to hit 18K on steam in the evening for the first weekend post launch. The numbers are supposed to go up the first weekend of steam launch not go down.

    Of course they are going to be responsive because things are not going well, when the ship is sinking - you'll find everyone is very responsive.


    If that were true, there would be a lot more developers being a lot more responsive.  Which isn't the case. 

    A game in development that isn't in beta, what would that be called?  Well these days they call it early access,  but 10 years ago it was called a closed beta test.  Maybe you've forgotten, but paying to get into a closed beta wasn't that long ago,  games were unfinished, people paid for a box to get in, and if we're all honest with ourselves, that hasn't changed, it's just called something different now.  

    What is early access: "Get immediate access to games that are being developed with the community's involvement. These are games that evolve as you play them, as you give feedback, and as the developers update and add content."


    That's pretty much exactly what closed betas are.  Unfinished games that are being shaped with the assistance of the closed beta community... so if we want to talk semantics, that's another story.



    EponyxDamorMrMelGibson



  • simmihisimmihi Member UncommonPosts: 709
    DMKano said:


    Of course they are going to be responsive because things are not going well, when the ship is sinking - you'll find everyone is very responsive.

    It's called damage control.
  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,054
    edited June 2018
    DMKano said:



    Early access is not the same as beta.

    Why do so many people believe this?
    Early access - means exactly what it says - early access to game - NOT beta.
    If the steam launch was beta, it would say BETA - it doesn't say that because it's not beta.

    The are being super responsive because it's their ass on the line - they just had a bad launch, they deployed a bad patch - it's a Saturday night and the managed to hit 18K on steam in the evening for the first weekend post launch. The numbers are supposed to go up the first weekend of steam launch not go down.

    Of course they are going to be responsive because things are not going well, when the ship is sinking - you'll find everyone is very responsive.


    If that were true, there would be a lot more developers being a lot more responsive.  Which isn't the case. 

    A game in development that isn't in beta, what would that be called?  Well these days they call it early access,  but 10 years ago it was called a closed beta test.  Maybe you've forgotten, but paying to get into a closed beta wasn't that long ago,  games were unfinished, people paid for a box to get in, and if we're all honest with ourselves, that hasn't changed, it's just called something different now.  

    What is early access: "Get immediate access to games that are being developed with the community's involvement. These are games that evolve as you play them, as you give feedback, and as the developers update and add content."


    That's pretty much exactly what closed betas are.  Unfinished games that are being shaped with the assistance of the closed beta community... so if we want to talk semantics, that's another story.





    Well said, I very much agree with this. Most people seem to think ( or want) EA to be a 95% finished game and there really is no such requirement. EA replaced the closed community from BERAs with an open community, which on the positive side brings in more players and money, but on the downside all your dirty/unfinished laundry is out there for all to see and you need SERIOUS expectation management, as is clear from a lot of threads around these parts for instance.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir



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