Don't let them fool you, this is the same piece of crap that fell on it's face years ago. I guess that Trion is just trying to milk a few more cents out of it.
Most of the issues from the original are still there. The biggest ones being the rubberbanding mobs and lag. If they could get those two things under control it might have been worth it. This is not connection issues from the players it is a server side issue. Their tech just can't seem to handle to many players in one spot that well and that has been an issue since the alpha/beta of the original.
I’m in the minority I’m sure but having played the original and this one, I’m having a blast. Haven’t been able to put it down all weekend and am on the process of leveling my last class now. The mention of new content has me excited to see the future of Defiance.
Wow you are on your last class to max level? That's crazy for sure, well done! I too am curious about the max level business. Let's see how we go!
Quite arcade not to mention you dont keep any of the previous items you bought or the currency you arleady earned ! Same old game in a new money grab atempt quite frankly besides the shaders i don't see any difference !
I'm having a good time so far, on PC the lag isn't a huge issue, but from what I've heard it's still nearly unplayable on consoles due to lag. Other than that, there's the occasional bug like floating vehicles, but nothing too game breaking.
Biggest issue I've had so far with it is the difficulty ramp, going from even 600 to 700 power enemies feels like jumping 10 levels in how hard they hit and how much damage they can take.
Played old and bought new one. All I can say is that this is WORST example of money grab iv seen in a long time.
Huge disappointment as I like world of Defiance. Aside EU servers that are literally unplayable if there are more than 15 players online and quite a big amount of bugs this is nothing more than old Defiance where players lost all their progress and got new class system. It did not even officially launch, not a single info about problems we are experiencing but there is official post about 50 euro pack with 2 new classes coming this winter.
I am extremely patient person but this is it. Milking players almost as good as EA with SWTOR and other games. Cant remember when I was this much angry.
They have given out a ton of refunds and in their response they comment, " We understand your reason for wanting a refund, and we are happy to help! " Of course they understand they know the did nothing but a money grab rerelease with nearly zero changes, and what is worse is they did not even bother to purchase new hardware they are just reusing dated hardware that was crap when they reused old rift servers for defiance the first time. Now we are sitting on 15 year old hardware, of course they understand why people want their money back.
So it sounds like it will take a whole clip to kill a trash mob. Not surprised it being from Trion.
It does, Where I am it takes 30-40 rounds out of a 60 round clip to kill something, body shots though since the gun I am using has a crappy crit mod, but even with headshots it'd still take 25 hits to kill them. Pretty much anyone is using detonators, rocket launchers, or snipers, as all the other guns just take to long to kill things.
I also installed the orignal game, and I estinate the enemies in 2050 have at least 3 times the health compared to the same enemy in the base game, and hit at least twice as hard. start of game with a assault rifle in Old defiance, 6 body shots or 3-4 headshots to kill a grunt, in 2050? takes almost a entire 30 round clip. Thats one of my biggest issues is just how much health enemies have. Nevermind the fact they gutted the game and removed alot of its gameplay systems.
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Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:
A. Proven right (if something bad happens)
or
B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)
i bet you all playing the defiance 2050 from Steam only.
I make a mistake and DL it from official glyph like old defiance..... every time after click i se black screen and not responding in Windows Task Manager
fan of SWG, XCOM, Defiance, Global Agenda, Need For Speed, all Star Wars single player games. And waiting the darn STAR CITIZEN
I didn't even made it past character creation, as soon as I saw it, I just quit and uninstalled. It's worse than the original game, fewer options, especially when it comes to your character face and if I can't create the same character I had on the original one, no thanks....
So basically the same old junk? It seems like every one of Trion's game are falling flat on their face with the exception of Trove. How are these dudes still in business?
Because they aren't. Just because you do not like their games does not mean others don't. They do just fine and as others have pointed out, even though this game is the same old (mostly) it still has its redeeming qualities. Not enough to make me personally go back, but while I was in early access I saw plenty of people playing it.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
I don't get the claims that it takes a clip to kill a trash mob...
If your weapon is properly enhanced (even just the level, I'm not even talking mods here) then I'm killing most un-armoured humanoid trash mobs in maybe 7 or 8 shots. Certainly 3 bursts from a burst fire SMG or AR. An un-enhanced weapon is utter trash and should be. If you dismantle all the weapon drops you get, you have enough salvage to keep 3 or 4 green weapons maxed out at a time (I've been keeping 2 LMGs, 1 SMG and 1 AR maxed as I level). That includes swapping to better weapons every time they drop. If you get blues early on they take a lot more salvage to max out. But as you level the drops start giving better salvage too.
Sure, if they're armoured or shielded they need more, but that's the point of armour an shields.
Assault rifles could do with doing more damage or larger clips. I lean towards a damage buff.
If you're needing a full clip then you've done something very wrong, or you're taking on targets that are too powerful, so take a step back a bit.
Well, I've played the old Defiance on and off since beta and it's a good game to get your gun fix with. I've played Defiance 2050 up through the starter missions and I've cruised around a bit checking out the region (wish Trion had given me my medic dune buggy instead of that dumb raptor vehicle). I was really hoping Defiance 2050 would be expanding out beyond the area that the old game is restricted to but I don't see any indication of that. The "classes" just seem like Trion isolated each special ability along with the support abilities for it and gave it a name. Overall I'm not seeing anything that would move me to leave Defiance and start over in Defiance 2050.
Love defiance2050 reached lvl50 my character has 3 loadouts assassin, medic, and guardian, so i can play a different role depending on what my mission is, It allows for versatility. I plan on getting the other ego classes maxed to allow more versatility for the group I run with. Its sad to see people bashing a free game for lags and crashes, when ESO servers crashed for many hours on opening night and continued to have issues for awhile, ESO cost money and they weren't perfect but they weren't bashed as bad as defiance2050 is getting bashed. Defiance for what it is is a good game considering the amount of people on the servers, it has issues but will get fixed.
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Wow you are on your last class to max level? That's crazy for sure, well done! I too am curious about the max level business. Let's see how we go!
and dont forget the sale of ark keys
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Biggest issue I've had so far with it is the difficulty ramp, going from even 600 to 700 power enemies feels like jumping 10 levels in how hard they hit and how much damage they can take.
They have given out a ton of refunds and in their response they comment, " We understand your reason for wanting a refund, and we are happy to help! " Of course they understand they know the did nothing but a money grab rerelease with nearly zero changes, and what is worse is they did not even bother to purchase new hardware they are just reusing dated hardware that was crap when they reused old rift servers for defiance the first time. Now we are sitting on 15 year old hardware, of course they understand why people want their money back.
It does, Where I am it takes 30-40 rounds out of a 60 round clip to kill something, body shots though since the gun I am using has a crappy crit mod, but even with headshots it'd still take 25 hits to kill them. Pretty much anyone is using detonators, rocket launchers, or snipers, as all the other guns just take to long to kill things. I also installed the orignal game, and I estinate the enemies in 2050 have at least 3 times the health compared to the same enemy in the base game, and hit at least twice as hard. start of game with a assault rifle in Old defiance, 6 body shots or 3-4 headshots to kill a grunt, in 2050? takes almost a entire 30 round clip. Thats one of my biggest issues is just how much health enemies have. Nevermind the fact they gutted the game and removed alot of its gameplay systems.
Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:
A. Proven right (if something bad happens)
or
B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)
Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!
I make a mistake and DL it from official glyph like old defiance..... every time after click i se black screen and not responding in Windows Task Manager
Because they aren't. Just because you do not like their games does not mean others don't. They do just fine and as others have pointed out, even though this game is the same old (mostly) it still has its redeeming qualities. Not enough to make me personally go back, but while I was in early access I saw plenty of people playing it.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
If your weapon is properly enhanced (even just the level, I'm not even talking mods here) then I'm killing most un-armoured humanoid trash mobs in maybe 7 or 8 shots. Certainly 3 bursts from a burst fire SMG or AR. An un-enhanced weapon is utter trash and should be. If you dismantle all the weapon drops you get, you have enough salvage to keep 3 or 4 green weapons maxed out at a time (I've been keeping 2 LMGs, 1 SMG and 1 AR maxed as I level). That includes swapping to better weapons every time they drop. If you get blues early on they take a lot more salvage to max out. But as you level the drops start giving better salvage too.
Sure, if they're armoured or shielded they need more, but that's the point of armour an shields.
Assault rifles could do with doing more damage or larger clips. I lean towards a damage buff.
If you're needing a full clip then you've done something very wrong, or you're taking on targets that are too powerful, so take a step back a bit.