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Crytek Filing Lawsuit Against CIG

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  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited August 2018
    Kefo said:
    Didn’t he first make a video about how it’s a slam dunk for CIG and then later on when he saw how others were getting ripped apart he decided to tone back his response?
    He follows the case, CIG at first plays strong with bringing up the GLA and the MtD (when he said that), then both parties argue with each other over it on several fillings, then he tempers his view after seeing the arguments and information both parties put up to support their case.
  • ScotchUpScotchUp Member UncommonPosts: 228
    Kefo said:
    MaxBacon said:
    Kefo said:
    No because the CIG knights will try to crucify you to your channel and probably stop watching right after and you’d lose revenue. 

    However if you take CIG’s side and your video is all about how the judge fucked up or how Cryteks lawyers are just reaching for anything then you will have an already rabid fan base watching your videos which will lead to revenue plus you will more then likely have said rabid fan base throwing money at you because they love that you are siding with CIG.

    So yes money totally plays into the equation and sets the bias. 
    Oh lol, every piece of controversy and drama about SC gets high views, not the opposite, just see the media outlets always with negative press on SC always trending.

    I'm not picking a side and saying "oh his opinion is the right opinion", I'm just seeing the informed views we have around on the matter. And the fact is, most of the views given on this whole lawsuit from informed people, do overall favor CIG and not Crytek in multiple points... Even the article you linked before of not being biased that also reviewed the case, but now they're biased?! hmmm!
    I’m starting to think you’re just picking random sentences from the CIG Defense handbook and cobbling them together because you’re not making a lot of sense in your reply to me
    Well, the way am reading CRYTEK and responses from CIG, I feel sorry for Max and others, because it's really starting to look like things are going CRYTEK's way. I believe Max and others really had faith in Roberts telling the truth about how Star Citizen/SQ42 was being produced.

    It would be hard for anyone to start realizing they well could have been duped. Not saying they were just starting to look that way.
    craftseekerMaxBaconKefo
    “The reason I talk to myself is because I’m the only one whose answers I accept.”
    ― George Carlin
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited August 2018
    ScotchUp said:
    Well, the way am reading CRYTEK and responses from CIG, I feel sorry for Max and others, because it's really starting to look like things are going CRYTEK's way. I believe Max and others really had faith in Roberts telling the truth about how Star Citizen/SQ42 was being produced.

    It would be hard for anyone to start realizing they well could have been duped. Not saying they were just starting to look that way.
    lol this post of your is hilarious, comes the hater with a fake-pity post. :cold_sweat:
  • ScotchUpScotchUp Member UncommonPosts: 228
    MaxBacon said:
    ScotchUp said:
    Well, the way am reading CRYTEK and responses from CIG, I feel sorry for Max and others, because it's really starting to look like things are going CRYTEK's way. I believe Max and others really had faith in Roberts telling the truth about how Star Citizen/SQ42 was being produced.

    It would be hard for anyone to start realizing they well could have been duped. Not saying they were just starting to look that way.
    lol this post of your is hilarious, comes the hater with a fake-pity post. :D
    Really, Max, you had to go there? I was being sincere.
    “The reason I talk to myself is because I’m the only one whose answers I accept.”
    ― George Carlin
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited August 2018
    ScotchUp said:
    Really, Max, you had to go there? I was being sincere.
    What you call sincere I call acting, I'd appreciate next time you pull one of those to keep me out of it or you can betcha I'll take such pity posts leveled like that as one insult.
    WalkinGlennmmolou
  • ScotchUpScotchUp Member UncommonPosts: 228
    MaxBacon said:
    ScotchUp said:
    Really, Max, you had to go there? I was being sincere.
    What you call sincere I call acting, I'd appreciate next time you pull one of those to keep me out of it or you can betcha I'll take such pity posts leveled like that as one insult.
    Sorry, Max, it won't happen again. I truly wasn't insulting you.
    “The reason I talk to myself is because I’m the only one whose answers I accept.”
    ― George Carlin
  • TiamatRoarTiamatRoar Member RarePosts: 1,689
    edited August 2018
    I wish this court stuff didn't take so freakishly long.  7 months just to determine if it can go to court in the first place and we're still not even completely at THAT POINT yet cause now there's the back and forth over the amendments.  Cripes.
  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    TiamatRoar said:
    I wish this court stuff didn't take so freakishly long.  7 months just to determine if it can go to court in the first place and we're still not even completely at THAT POINT yet cause now there's the back and forth over the amendments.  Cripes.
    CIG is dragging this out as long as they possibly can. 
    ScotchUp
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited August 2018
    Kefo said:
    I wish this court stuff didn't take so freakishly long.  7 months just to determine if it can go to court in the first place and we're still not even completely at THAT POINT yet cause now there's the back and forth over the amendments.  Cripes.
    CIG is dragging this out as long as they possibly can. 
    Good, they shouldn't just bend over and take everything Crytek demands just cause without using the tools they available have to do opposition.

    For likely the next years, the "haters" will be all about waiting for updates to this case, meanwhile, the backers will be waiting for updates to the game, see everyone has something to wait for now xD
  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254
    MaxBacon said:
    Kefo said:
    I wish this court stuff didn't take so freakishly long.  7 months just to determine if it can go to court in the first place and we're still not even completely at THAT POINT yet cause now there's the back and forth over the amendments.  Cripes.
    CIG is dragging this out as long as they possibly can. 
    Good, they shouldn't just bend over and take everything Crytek demands just cause without using the tools they available have to do opposition.

    For likely the next years, the "haters" will be all about waiting for updates to this case, meanwhile, the backers will be waiting for updates to the game, see everyone has something to wait for now xD
    Nah, you never talk about haters.
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited August 2018
    Nah, you never talk about haters.
    But yes I do, those with little to no interest in the game, that are all over this case, they now will be together with the backers on the waiting game ;) 

    I think they'll get the boring end of the deal, as we now get game updates every quarter.
  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    MaxBacon said:
    Nah, you never talk about haters.
    But yes I do, those with little to no interest in the game, that are all over this case, they now will be together with the backers on the waiting game ;) 

    I think they'll get the boring end of the deal, as we now get game updates every quarter.
    I think I’d rather take the boring end of the deal and go play completed and fun games then be a backer paying for CIG to drag out a lawsuit as long as possible and waste as much money as possible on lawyers fees
  • TiamatRoarTiamatRoar Member RarePosts: 1,689
    edited August 2018
    MaxBacon said:
    Kefo said:
    I wish this court stuff didn't take so freakishly long.  7 months just to determine if it can go to court in the first place and we're still not even completely at THAT POINT yet cause now there's the back and forth over the amendments.  Cripes.
    CIG is dragging this out as long as they possibly can. 
    Good, they shouldn't just bend over and take everything Crytek demands just cause without using the tools they available have to do opposition.

    For likely the next years, the "haters" will be all about waiting for updates to this case, meanwhile, the backers will be waiting for updates to the game, see everyone has something to wait for now xD
    Theretically and hypothetically, if CiG was going to win this case anyways then dragging it out hurts them, not helps them.  It means more time and energy (and possibly money depending on whether or not the judge awards legal fees) spent on the case for CiG.

    (of course, they aren't going to win in my opinion so dragging it out is pretty much the only thing they can do)
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited August 2018
    Theretically and hypothetically, if CiG was going to win this case anyways then dragging it out hurts them, not helps them.  It means more time and energy (and possibly money depending on whether or not the judge awards legal fees) spent on the case for CiG.

    (of course, they aren't going to win in my opinion so dragging it out is pretty much the only thing they can do)
    Dragging hurts Crytek too. The court is a gamble, nothing is guaranteed there and we have no lack of examples of when things get ruled against everyone's expectations, especially in America, hence why settling cases as this is a standard thing.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    TiamatRoar said:
    MaxBacon said:
    Kefo said:
    I wish this court stuff didn't take so freakishly long.  7 months just to determine if it can go to court in the first place and we're still not even completely at THAT POINT yet cause now there's the back and forth over the amendments.  Cripes.
    CIG is dragging this out as long as they possibly can. 
    Good, they shouldn't just bend over and take everything Crytek demands just cause without using the tools they available have to do opposition.

    For likely the next years, the "haters" will be all about waiting for updates to this case, meanwhile, the backers will be waiting for updates to the game, see everyone has something to wait for now xD
    Theretically and hypothetically, if CiG was going to win this case anyways then dragging it out hurts them, not helps them.  It means more time and energy (and possibly money depending on whether or not the judge awards legal fees) spent on the case for CiG.

    (of course, they aren't going to win in my opinion so dragging it out is pretty much the only thing they can do)
    Dragging it out can exhaust the other sides ability to pay their lawyers, who charge by the hour.

    I suspect Cryteks abilty to survive is seriously at risk and this strategy may work.

    CIG doesn't care, they are bringing in millions every month of "free" money....

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    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited August 2018
    Kyleran said:
    CIG doesn't care, they are bringing in millions every month of "free" money....
    So they pay over 500 employees with what? O_o

    See the calculated costs of the company show their costs are easily more than what they crowdfund yearly, so unless they are going to layoff people to outspend Crytek in court, I don't see it.
  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    MaxBacon said:
    Kyleran said:
    CIG doesn't care, they are bringing in millions every month of "free" money....
    So they pay over 500 employees with what? O_o

    See the calculated costs of the company show their costs are easily more than what they crowdfund yearly, so unless they are going to layoff people to outspend Crytek in court, I don't see it.
    Sounds like something CIG would do
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    edited August 2018
    MaxBacon said:
    Kyleran said:
    CIG doesn't care, they are bringing in millions every month of "free" money....
    So they pay over 500 employees with what? O_o

    See the calculated costs of the company show their costs are easily more than what they crowdfund yearly, so unless they are going to layoff people to outspend Crytek in court, I don't see it.
    Well, they should already have more than enough money banked to "finish" the game and launch.

    They shouldn't be relying on a steady faucet of never ending free income to keep working on the base game ad infinitum....right?



    Kefo

    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    Kyleran said:
    Well, they should already have more than enough money banked to "finish" the game and launch.

    They shouldn't be relying on a steady faucet of never ending free income to keep working on the base game ad infinitum....right?
    The extra and ongoing funding allowed them to scale the company, open more studios and hire more people, that's exactly what they did; there is no "X money the game costs", the time determines the cost (millions in wagers per month).
    rpmcmurphy
  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    MaxBacon said:
    Kyleran said:
    Well, they should already have more than enough money banked to "finish" the game and launch.

    They shouldn't be relying on a steady faucet of never ending free income to keep working on the base game ad infinitum....right?
    The extra and ongoing funding allowed them to scale the company, open more studios and hire more people, that's exactly what they did; there is no "X money the game costs", the time determines the cost (millions in wagers per month).
    So CR (or whoever it was) was running their mouth when they said they had enough to finish the game and then the sales could fund the rest of development if funding happened to shut down?
    KyleranHatefullrpmcmurphy
  • mr1602mr1602 Member UncommonPosts: 216
    The biggest surprize in the Motion to Dismiss was the note on one of the items dismissed by the court. 
    It essentially was taking Crytek's side by writing the amendment for them and saying (without actually saying) that the court will rule in Crytek's favor if they submit the amendment. Courts usually do this if they are unhappy with the other party; (CIG in this case) and is absolutely legal.


    Unless there is a last minute settlement, we are going to get a court case out of this. Which means all the process that precedes it; including Discovery.
    CIG's $3000 refund story 
    Original - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3748466&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=4551#post462019951 (paywall)
    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-07-15-through-gritted-teeth-star-citizen-developer-gives-player-whopping-usd2500-refund

    CIG is sued by Crytek
    https://www.polygon.com/2017/12/14/16776300/crytek-star-citizen-lawsuit-cig-rsi

    EX-Backer StreetRoller sues Chris Roberts
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojx7VcbowYQ
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,463
    LoL good luck with that "discovery" :D. Again nothing will come out of this except nice fees for the lawyers to feast on. 

    As usual the haters throw a party because they think this will be the end of Star Citizen and when the dust settles nothing comes out of it, the game keeps being developed and making millions in the process.

    Oh well monthly drama, rinse & repeat :D
  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member EpicPosts: 3,481
    For the idol worshipers, nothing has EVER been done poorly.   All hail the Emperor and his million dollar clothes.....

    If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    Arglebargle said:
    For the idol worshipers, nothing has EVER been done poorly.   All hail the Emperor and his million dollar clothes.....
    We need a new word because cult looks like a childish club compared to this shit lol
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,463
    Oh what would be the internet without it's "punishers" fighting for the law of righteousness and justice in the gaming world... :D

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