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CCP Games Acquired by Black Desert Online Creators Pearl Abyss - MMORPG.com

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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    Kyleran said:
    Mikeha said:
    DMKano said:
    Mikeha said:

    Started out with 7 people. Made 1 game which was their 1st game and look at them now. Take notes, this is how its done.


    Every successful company has small roots - I am yet to hear of a company that starts of as s billion dollar 50,000 employee company on day 1 from scratch.

    So "this is how its done" - literally every successful business ever





    XD
    What company made their 1st game which was a mmo that went on to be as successful as BDO and has done what Pearl has done. 

    Pearl was an unknown company and made Black Desert which was a brand new unknown IP. 

    Not talking about roots. What other company did what Pearl has done.?
    Hmm, besides CCP? Not sure.

    Well to be honest they did create a board game first to help fund the MMO.

    Found another, Turbine with Asherons Call.

    It's been cited by Kano, but the poster isn't interested in those facts.  They're interested in touting BDO as it's their favorite MMORPG.
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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    edited September 2018
    Kyleran said:
    Mikeha said:
    DMKano said:
    Mikeha said:

    Started out with 7 people. Made 1 game which was their 1st game and look at them now. Take notes, this is how its done.


    Every successful company has small roots - I am yet to hear of a company that starts of as s billion dollar 50,000 employee company on day 1 from scratch.

    So "this is how its done" - literally every successful business ever





    XD
    What company made their 1st game which was a mmo that went on to be as successful as BDO and has done what Pearl has done. 

    Pearl was an unknown company and made Black Desert which was a brand new unknown IP. 

    Not talking about roots. What other company did what Pearl has done.?
    Hmm, besides CCP? Not sure.

    Well to be honest they did create a board game first to help fund the MMO.

    Found another, Turbine with Asherons Call.

    It's been cited by Kano, but the poster isn't interested in those facts.  They're interested in touting BDO as it's their favorite MMORPG.


    The poster is interested in sources not what a person says.  One day you all will understand how this works. Making statements without having sources to back up your statements is worthless.
    Kyleran said:
    Mikeha said:
    DMKano said:
    Mikeha said:

    Started out with 7 people. Made 1 game which was their 1st game and look at them now. Take notes, this is how its done.


    Every successful company has small roots - I am yet to hear of a company that starts of as s billion dollar 50,000 employee company on day 1 from scratch.

    So "this is how its done" - literally every successful business ever





    XD
    What company made their 1st game which was a mmo that went on to be as successful as BDO and has done what Pearl has done. 

    Pearl was an unknown company and made Black Desert which was a brand new unknown IP. 

    Not talking about roots. What other company did what Pearl has done.?
    Hmm, besides CCP? Not sure.

    Well to be honest they did create a board game first to help fund the MMO.

    Found another, Turbine with Asherons Call.



    What did Asherons Call do for Turbine? How  successful was it and how much money did it make them? I want to know what did Asherons Call do for Turbine before they went on and to make other games.



    Please provide a link or source to this information.
  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Member EpicPosts: 3,077
    This is... not good for Eve.

    /2c

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  • MaggonMaggon Member UncommonPosts: 360
    Weren't there talk about CCP wanting to sell off EVE at one point ?
  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,411
    DMKano said:
    Mikeha said:

    Started out with 7 people. Made 1 game which was their 1st game and look at them now. Take notes, this is how its done.


    Every successful company has small roots - I am yet to hear of a company that starts of as s billion dollar 50,000 employee company on day 1 from scratch.

    So "this is how its done" - literally every successful business ever




    Like 3 guys in a garage making computers
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    Mikeha said:
    Kyleran said:
    Mikeha said:
    DMKano said:
    Mikeha said:

    Started out with 7 people. Made 1 game which was their 1st game and look at them now. Take notes, this is how its done.


    Every successful company has small roots - I am yet to hear of a company that starts of as s billion dollar 50,000 employee company on day 1 from scratch.

    So "this is how its done" - literally every successful business ever





    XD
    What company made their 1st game which was a mmo that went on to be as successful as BDO and has done what Pearl has done. 

    Pearl was an unknown company and made Black Desert which was a brand new unknown IP. 

    Not talking about roots. What other company did what Pearl has done.?
    Hmm, besides CCP? Not sure.

    Well to be honest they did create a board game first to help fund the MMO.

    Found another, Turbine with Asherons Call.

    It's been cited by Kano, but the poster isn't interested in those facts.  They're interested in touting BDO as it's their favorite MMORPG.


    The poster is interested in sources not what a person says.  One day you all will understand how this works. Making statements without having sources to back up your statements is worthless.
    Kyleran said:
    Mikeha said:
    DMKano said:
    Mikeha said:

    Started out with 7 people. Made 1 game which was their 1st game and look at them now. Take notes, this is how its done.


    Every successful company has small roots - I am yet to hear of a company that starts of as s billion dollar 50,000 employee company on day 1 from scratch.

    So "this is how its done" - literally every successful business ever





    XD
    What company made their 1st game which was a mmo that went on to be as successful as BDO and has done what Pearl has done. 

    Pearl was an unknown company and made Black Desert which was a brand new unknown IP. 

    Not talking about roots. What other company did what Pearl has done.?
    Hmm, besides CCP? Not sure.

    Well to be honest they did create a board game first to help fund the MMO.

    Found another, Turbine with Asherons Call.



    What did Asherons Call do for Turbine? How  successful was it and how much money did it make them? I want to know what did Asherons Call do for Turbine before they went on and to make other games.



    Please provide a link or source to this information.
    You can look into these companies' histories easily yourself.  Quit being lazy.

    I have a sneaky suspicion any links provided will only have you grasping at straws to try and exclude them from your group of one.
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  • HexedprojektHexedprojekt Member CommonPosts: 3
    LMAO goodluck to the eve community
  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    edited September 2018
    You can look into these companies' histories easily yourself.  Quit being lazy.

    I have a sneaky suspicion any links provided will only have you grasping at straws to try and exclude them from your group of one.



    If you make a claim you are the one that is supposed to back it up.  Did this OP come here and say Pearl purchased CCP and expect us to just believe it or did they provide the full press release to show proof of what they are saying is legit?

    You all still dont understand how all of this works.


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  • Jamar870Jamar870 Member UncommonPosts: 573
    I think Mikeha is either being a shill for Pearl Abyss or more likely being an annoying troll right now.
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    edited September 2018
    Mikeha said:
    You can look into these companies' histories easily yourself.  Quit being lazy.

    I have a sneaky suspicion any links provided will only have you grasping at straws to try and exclude them from your group of one.



    If you make a claim you are the one that is supposed to back it up.  Did this OP come here and say Pearl purchased CCP and expect us to just believe it or did they provide the full press release to show proof of what they are saying is legit?

    You all still dont understand how all of this works.


    No, you're just being willfully ignorant because the truth directly contradicts your "BDO is special!" narrative.
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  • TEKK3NTEKK3N Member RarePosts: 1,115

    DMKano said:
    Mikeha said:



    Everquest 1 - 989 Studios - ushered a whole new genre of 3D MMORPGs - there wouldn't be BDO without these guys most likely

    Asheron's Call 1 - turbine

    Anarchy Online - Funcom

    basically any gen1 MMORPG 

    how about that, hmm? 

    As far as non-MMO games with original IPs that made it huge 

    League of Legends - RIOT

    or 

    Diablo - Blizzard

    Starcraft - Blizzard

    etc...

    I would add, NCSoft - Lineage
    I think only WOW made more money than Lineage.
    How about CCP, he even bought another company. It was a bad investment, still.

    DMKano said:

    Heck even take a small company like Trion - their first game was Rift - unknown IP, unknown company - they made $100million in the first 6 months of Rift launch.

    Does that count?


    You couldn't help yourself could you?
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,053
    I can not wait to buy a giant fish suit for a ship!

    Fish in spaaaaaace.

    /Cheers,
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    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    edited September 2018
    As I said in the EVE discussion I made

    https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/475937/with-pearl-abyss-owners-of-eve-what-i-expect-to-come-out

    This is amazing news. I hope they ban a lot of the terrible community, especially everyone from somethingawful. And get rid of all the scammers, since in BDO its bannable to scam someone. So even if the gameplay stays the same (I doubt it. I think they'll finally add walking in stations and make the game a lot more fun and less spread sheet simulator)... the community is going to improve a lot if nothing else happens. Its well known EVE Online has one of the worst communities.

    Best news for an MMORPG I've read in a long time.

    Only BDO haters don't like it. But that is no surprise since MMORPG.com and reddit /r/mmorpg are full of MMO haters that hate every new MMO, and are stuck in the past of 1990s MMOs. But too bad for them that BDO still sells really good and new games and MMOs do better than old MMOs.
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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,057
    I just don't see any good coming from this.  LOL.

    I didn't have an issue with the Tencent acquisition of GGG because I trust Chris Wilson and his statements regarding the impact.  I didn't see anything from the CCP founders nor do I know how much the communicated directly with the playerbase.
  • RedFireCERedFireCE Member UncommonPosts: 50
    The last of your kind.
  • RedFireCERedFireCE Member UncommonPosts: 50
    edited September 2018
    I'm as old as EVE, I start not knowing how to post on the internet.
  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    Remember. It took 2 years for Blizzard to change WoW and also become focused heavily on microtransaction games after Activision took over. EVE Online will likely fall into the same time frame for gameplay changes (and gameplay changes can include cash shop changes as well)

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  • BladeburaibaBladeburaiba Member UncommonPosts: 134
    I believe the payoff, if it happens, is Pearl Abyss gets the Asian Market, in Asia, to play this game.  If they can do that, and understanding the Asian psyche when it comes to what they value and are willing to pay for, it will be billions.  Of course, they  have to wait for the new player base to mature, unless they allow paying for skill progression.

    On the Western front, I don't see the changes to add more micro-transactions as the main driver to recouping the investment.
  • TofkeTofke Member UncommonPosts: 342
    Huh... crazy! That's like two persons getting together, one is all about the looks and the other all about personality. :>
  • Quazal.AQuazal.A Member UncommonPosts: 859
    Tofke said:
    Huh... crazy! That's like two persons getting together, one is all about the looks and the other all about personality. :>
    well thats me and the wife then, ill let you decide who is eve and who is bdo :)

    This post is all my opinion, but I welcome debate on anything i have put, however, personal slander / name calling belongs in game where of course you're welcome to call me names im often found lounging about in EvE online.
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  • axtrantiaxtranti Member UncommonPosts: 97

    Scot said:

    I have no idea about how P2W EVE is, but I hope CCP don't end up with "tapered P2W", in the beginning it seems there is not P2W but as you get into the game you realise that unless you want to spend your life grinding buying cash shop items and selling them on is the only way to upgrade your weapons and armour.



    bdo wasn't like that before, it is now, since u can burn ur costumes for valks.

    asdasdasd

  • Solar_ProphetSolar_Prophet Member EpicPosts: 1,960
    If they take steps to clean up the shit community so it isn't full of psychopaths, scammers, and schoolyard bullies, I'll definitely consider this a positive thing. I might even play it again. Hell, maybe we'll get meaningful PvE content like out of ship activities or a cohesive storyline. Maybe CCP will grow the balls to follow their vision of the game and not be bullied by a bunch of degenerates threatening to leave it for doing so. 

    Or maybe things will stay the same, and EVE will continue to attract mouth breathers who get off on scamming people, encouraging others to commit suicide, and making death threats. Who knows?
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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
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  • Tuor7Tuor7 Member RarePosts: 982
    I just don't see how they can possibly get their investment back. A half a billion smackeroos is a LOT of money. It just seems like a foolish investment to me. But, I guess if you're going to cash out, then that's not a bad way to go.

    I wish EVE well, but this seems like the end to me -- certainly, the end of an era.
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