Originally posted by Elnator Erm... wait... giving people the option to solo... the ability to play at times they otherwise can't.... that's a bad thing for the game?
Everything else aside Elnator, soloing, like instancing, sucks ass hard. Community. Isn't this why we bother paying a monthly fee? Because playing with other people and forming online friendships and learning how to kick ass together is fun, right?
If you could solo in EQ, I would have played for maybe 3 months instead of 3+ years. If you had to group in WoW I'd probably still be playing because having to group to level is a challenge. I enjoy a challenge. It's not easy to find a group in a difficult game that knows how to play their role. Can't wait for Vanguard.
"When I first started coming here this site was mostly people helping each other find a kewl game to play. Now it is overrun with bitchy moaners who want nothing more than to whine non-stop"
and now you're bitching about the people who are bitching so that makes you just as bad as everyone else. maybe the onslaught of bitching is caused by an onslaught of crap games.
Originally posted by anarchyart Everything else aside Elnator, soloing, like instancing, sucks ass hard. Community. Isn't this why we bother paying a monthly fee? Because playing with other people and forming online friendships and learning how to kick ass together is fun, right? If you could solo in EQ, I would have played for maybe 3 months instead of 3+ years. If you had to group in WoW I'd probably still be playing because having to group to level is a challenge. I enjoy a challenge. It's not easy to find a group in a difficult game that knows how to play their role. Can't wait for Vanguard.
Soloing sucks ass huh? I don't think much of your opinion with that. Sometimes you don't have time to find a group or just want to play alone while you watch some TV. Solo content doesn't mean you have to play the entire game by yourself 100% of the time.
EQ1 did have solo content btw, solo mobs easy to kill for some folks.
As to Vanguard, heh, guess what... it has solo content! Not that the game is gonna be good, it's being ruined by people like you that seem to think that death penalties and 45 minute travel times is what made EQ1 good. Hope you like the pile of poop you guys made.
Originally posted by anarchyart Originally posted by Elnator Erm... wait... giving people the option to solo... the ability to play at times they otherwise can't.... that's a bad thing for the game?
Everything else aside Elnator, soloing, like instancing, sucks ass hard. Community. Isn't this why we bother paying a monthly fee? Because playing with other people and forming online friendships and learning how to kick ass together is fun, right?
If you could solo in EQ, I would have played for maybe 3 months instead of 3+ years. If you had to group in WoW I'd probably still be playing because having to group to level is a challenge. I enjoy a challenge. It's not easy to find a group in a difficult game that knows how to play their role. Can't wait for Vanguard.
You are missing the point completely Anarchy. I'm not saying you should solo the majority of the time in any MMORPG but there are times where you will want to be able to solo. And you *could*, in point of fact, solo in EQ if you so desired. It wasn't as effective.... and you couldn't get some of the coolest items.... but you COULD play the game solo. You cannot do so in DDO... ever.. beyond the first couple of starter missions. Period.
I like a challenge too. You wanna play hard-core come play MUME with me and I'll show you a HARD CORE online RPG.... you'll have to forgive though, it's a text MUD, not an MMO. It's also better done than 90% of the MMORPG's on the market.
Or we could go play Arctic... or even old school UO on the shard I play on.
Guess what... in all of them you can STILL solo if you want to. Not advised, not as fun... but possible.
Interacting with a community is not solely grouping with other players. Interacting is communicating, interacting via trade, etc... All of which you can do without joining a group, or even a guild, in most MMORPG's. In DDO, however, you cannot solo.... Period. I don't prefer to solo but there are times when I want to play the game I'm sinking $15 a month into and nobody I know is on so I want to be able to go do something 'fun' while I'm on.
In DAOC, EQ, AO, AC, UO, L2, L1, EVE, SoR, HZ, SWG, err... nevermind, I'm not listing every MMO in existence, you CAN do that. In DDO you cannot. End of Story. Not only is there no solo adventure content there's nothing you can DO solo either. No crafting at all. No world to explore. Both of those give solo players something to do if friends aren't on. No player housing, no real customization of your avatar.... nothing. It's a online dungeon quest engine... and that's it. And that's too limiting.
The game is *not* worth a monthly fee. Not if you sit down and think about what you're getting compared to every other MMORPG on the market. And most especially if you consider that what you DO get is already offered by games that have no monthly fee.
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Just stopped my download for the free trial at 20% learned everything I need to know about this game from reading the above. I just got over having to canceling my Auto Assault account because I felt it was not worthy of a $15 per month fee. I don't want to waste another $60 bucks to feel that way all over again after three weeks. Thanks for the heads up. Does anyone realy think that ANY gaming company is going to leave the "I quit" post on their forum, pfft get real they delete those like made no matter how sucessful the game is or is not..
Originally posted by anarchyart Originally posted by Elnator Erm... wait... giving people the option to solo... the ability to play at times they otherwise can't.... that's a bad thing for the game?
Everything else aside Elnator, soloing, like instancing, sucks ass hard. Community. Isn't this why we bother paying a monthly fee? Because playing with other people and forming online friendships and learning how to kick ass together is fun, right?
If you could solo in EQ, I would have played for maybe 3 months instead of 3+ years. If you had to group in WoW I'd probably still be playing because having to group to level is a challenge. I enjoy a challenge. It's not easy to find a group in a difficult game that knows how to play their role. Can't wait for Vanguard.
i thought we paid a monthly fee because those were the better games to play. stand alone games for the pc just aren't that spectacular.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Originally posted by anarchyart If you could solo in EQ, I would have played for maybe 3 months instead of 3+ years.
I played EQ from March of 2001 until about a year ago. Oddly enough, I soloed my druid to 67 and about 100 AAs or so. The only groups I ever took with him were the few that were required to get my epic.
The only reason I quit playing him was because I ran out of things to quad and root/rotting is not a challenge. A chimpanzee with Down's Syndrome can root/rot.
Not saying that I exclusively soloed all my characters in EQ ... just the druid.
DDO is almost exactly like guild wars in that everything is instanced except the town in which you start and it requires you to group in order to do those missions. The advantages that Guild wars has over DDO however are the ability to use NPC henchmen and they do not charge a monthly fee.
If I was going to play a game that is focused entirely on instanced content it would be much more cost efficient and less frustrating to play GW than DDO.
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Everything else aside Elnator, soloing, like instancing, sucks ass hard. Community. Isn't this why we bother paying a monthly fee? Because playing with other people and forming online friendships and learning how to kick ass together is fun, right?
If you could solo in EQ, I would have played for maybe 3 months instead of 3+ years. If you had to group in WoW I'd probably still be playing because having to group to level is a challenge. I enjoy a challenge. It's not easy to find a group in a difficult game that knows how to play their role. Can't wait for Vanguard.
"When I first started coming here this site was mostly people helping each other find a kewl game to play. Now it is overrun with bitchy moaners who want nothing more than to whine non-stop"
and now you're bitching about the people who are bitching so that makes you just as bad as everyone else. maybe the onslaught of bitching is caused by an onslaught of crap games.
EQ1 did have solo content btw, solo mobs easy to kill for some folks.
As to Vanguard, heh, guess what... it has solo content! Not that the game is gonna be good, it's being ruined by people like you that seem to think that death penalties and 45 minute travel times is what made EQ1 good. Hope you like the pile of poop you guys made.
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Everything else aside Elnator, soloing, like instancing, sucks ass hard. Community. Isn't this why we bother paying a monthly fee? Because playing with other people and forming online friendships and learning how to kick ass together is fun, right?
If you could solo in EQ, I would have played for maybe 3 months instead of 3+ years. If you had to group in WoW I'd probably still be playing because having to group to level is a challenge. I enjoy a challenge. It's not easy to find a group in a difficult game that knows how to play their role. Can't wait for Vanguard.
You are missing the point completely Anarchy. I'm not saying you should solo the majority of the time in any MMORPG but there are times where you will want to be able to solo. And you *could*, in point of fact, solo in EQ if you so desired. It wasn't as effective.... and you couldn't get some of the coolest items.... but you COULD play the game solo. You cannot do so in DDO... ever.. beyond the first couple of starter missions. Period.
I like a challenge too. You wanna play hard-core come play MUME with me and I'll show you a HARD CORE online RPG.... you'll have to forgive though, it's a text MUD, not an MMO. It's also better done than 90% of the MMORPG's on the market.
Or we could go play Arctic... or even old school UO on the shard I play on.
Guess what... in all of them you can STILL solo if you want to. Not advised, not as fun... but possible.
Interacting with a community is not solely grouping with other players. Interacting is communicating, interacting via trade, etc... All of which you can do without joining a group, or even a guild, in most MMORPG's. In DDO, however, you cannot solo.... Period. I don't prefer to solo but there are times when I want to play the game I'm sinking $15 a month into and nobody I know is on so I want to be able to go do something 'fun' while I'm on.
In DAOC, EQ, AO, AC, UO, L2, L1, EVE, SoR, HZ, SWG, err... nevermind, I'm not listing every MMO in existence, you CAN do that. In DDO you cannot. End of Story. Not only is there no solo adventure content there's nothing you can DO solo either. No crafting at all. No world to explore. Both of those give solo players something to do if friends aren't on. No player housing, no real customization of your avatar.... nothing. It's a online dungeon quest engine... and that's it. And that's too limiting.
The game is *not* worth a monthly fee. Not if you sit down and think about what you're getting compared to every other MMORPG on the market. And most especially if you consider that what you DO get is already offered by games that have no monthly fee.
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Everything else aside Elnator, soloing, like instancing, sucks ass hard. Community. Isn't this why we bother paying a monthly fee? Because playing with other people and forming online friendships and learning how to kick ass together is fun, right?
If you could solo in EQ, I would have played for maybe 3 months instead of 3+ years. If you had to group in WoW I'd probably still be playing because having to group to level is a challenge. I enjoy a challenge. It's not easy to find a group in a difficult game that knows how to play their role. Can't wait for Vanguard.
i thought we paid a monthly fee because those were the better games to play. stand alone games for the pc just aren't that spectacular.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
I played EQ from March of 2001 until about a year ago. Oddly enough, I soloed my druid to 67 and about 100 AAs or so. The only groups I ever took with him were the few that were required to get my epic.
The only reason I quit playing him was because I ran out of things to quad and root/rotting is not a challenge. A chimpanzee with Down's Syndrome can root/rot.
Not saying that I exclusively soloed all my characters in EQ ... just the druid.
Unfortunately.....
DDO is almost exactly like guild wars in that everything is instanced except the town in which you start and it requires you to group in order to do those missions. The advantages that Guild wars has over DDO however are the ability to use NPC henchmen and they do not charge a monthly fee.
If I was going to play a game that is focused entirely on instanced content it would be much more cost efficient and less frustrating to play GW than DDO.
Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.