The message that a lot of players don't care if a game is a buggy mess and will buy it anyway has already been sent by a lot of other games. That's usually the message that pre-orders send, for example. Crowdfunding usually sends that message even more strongly: a lot of people care more about the list of features that a company hopes to implement than what they actually dehliver.
So long as that's what a lot of players want, why shouldn't there be companies that deliver it? If you bought a game that was widely known to be a buggy mess, and that upsets you, then why'd you buy it? If that's not what you want, then don't pay for games until they're in a state where you're happy to play them as they are.
Strangely enough many people buy games knowing up front there is likely to be significant challenges yet they press on forward regardless.
I read the early beta reviews which clearly showed most of the "problems" in the article, and I seriously considered cancelling my preorder, which I could easily have done.
In the end I chose not to as I'm a Fallout 4 fanboy and I find the gameplay to be very much like it in FO 76.
Heck, ran this escort quest in Morgantown last night with 2 other random players and while they didn't chatter like my companions in FO4, they were a hell of a better shot and basically wrecked the hordes of ghouls on top of us.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
What the hell is Gamespace? Some of these sites are working HARD to surf that wave of Fallout 76-hate. It's absolutely ridiculous at this point.
I would like to ask some specific questions about the game from one of the "journalists" that shits on the game (PM if interested - I will record you). I bet you, it would be "uhhmmm, errr, ohh, what?" as they have not read those things from reddit and parroting bullshit to get more traffic on their site.
The message that a lot of players don't care if a game is a buggy mess and will buy it anyway has already been sent by a lot of other games. That's usually the message that pre-orders send, for example. Crowdfunding usually sends that message even more strongly: a lot of people care more about the list of features that a company hopes to implement than what they actually dehliver.
So long as that's what a lot of players want, why shouldn't there be companies that deliver it? If you bought a game that was widely known to be a buggy mess, and that upsets you, then why'd you buy it? If that's not what you want, then don't pay for games until they're in a state where you're happy to play them as they are.
Strangely enough many people buy games knowing up front there is likely to be significant challenges yet they press on forward regardless.
I read the early beta reviews which clearly showed most of the "problems" in the article, and I seriously considered cancelling my preorder, which I could easily have done.
In the end I chose not to as I'm a Fallout 4 fanboy and I find the gameplay to be very much like it in FO 76.
Heck, ran this escort quest in Morgantown last night with 2 other random players and while they didn't chatter like my companions in FO4, they were a hell of a better shot and basically wrecked the hordes of ghouls on top of us.
Fair trade off I think.
If you're happy playing the game as it is, then good for you. Polish in a game isn't an end in itself, but only a means to an end. The end goal is having fun. Or at least, I play computer games for fun. Some gamers seem to think that's weird.
The message that a lot of players don't care if a game is a buggy mess and will buy it anyway has already been sent by a lot of other games. That's usually the message that pre-orders send, for example. Crowdfunding usually sends that message even more strongly: a lot of people care more about the list of features that a company hopes to implement than what they actually dehliver.
So long as that's what a lot of players want, why shouldn't there be companies that deliver it? If you bought a game that was widely known to be a buggy mess, and that upsets you, then why'd you buy it? If that's not what you want, then don't pay for games until they're in a state where you're happy to play them as they are.
Strangely enough many people buy games knowing up front there is likely to be significant challenges yet they press on forward regardless.
I read the early beta reviews which clearly showed most of the "problems" in the article, and I seriously considered cancelling my preorder, which I could easily have done.
In the end I chose not to as I'm a Fallout 4 fanboy and I find the gameplay to be very much like it in FO 76.
Heck, ran this escort quest in Morgantown last night with 2 other random players and while they didn't chatter like my companions in FO4, they were a hell of a better shot and basically wrecked the hordes of ghouls on top of us.
Fair trade off I think.
If you're happy playing the game as it is, then good for you. Polish in a game isn't an end in itself, but only a means to an end. The end goal is having fun. Or at least, I play computer games for fun. Some gamers seem to think that's weird.
Seems like you think what YOU consider "fun" is what others should agree with. Game has bugs as is - it's still fun TO ME. Sadly for you, your opinion is worth just as much as mine - NOTHING. Get off your high horse.
The message that a lot of players don't care if a game is a buggy mess and will buy it anyway has already been sent by a lot of other games. That's usually the message that pre-orders send, for example. Crowdfunding usually sends that message even more strongly: a lot of people care more about the list of features that a company hopes to implement than what they actually dehliver.
So long as that's what a lot of players want, why shouldn't there be companies that deliver it? If you bought a game that was widely known to be a buggy mess, and that upsets you, then why'd you buy it? If that's not what you want, then don't pay for games until they're in a state where you're happy to play them as they are.
Strangely enough many people buy games knowing up front there is likely to be significant challenges yet they press on forward regardless.
I read the early beta reviews which clearly showed most of the "problems" in the article, and I seriously considered cancelling my preorder, which I could easily have done.
In the end I chose not to as I'm a Fallout 4 fanboy and I find the gameplay to be very much like it in FO 76.
Heck, ran this escort quest in Morgantown last night with 2 other random players and while they didn't chatter like my companions in FO4, they were a hell of a better shot and basically wrecked the hordes of ghouls on top of us.
Fair trade off I think.
If you're happy playing the game as it is, then good for you. Polish in a game isn't an end in itself, but only a means to an end. The end goal is having fun. Or at least, I play computer games for fun. Some gamers seem to think that's weird.
Seems like you think what YOU consider "fun" is what others should agree with. Game has bugs as is - it's still fun TO ME. Sadly for you, your opinion is worth just as much as mine - NOTHING. Get off your high horse.
Oh heavens no, the view from up here is pretty fabulous.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Fallout 76 can't be a failure if Bethesda doesn't offer refunds.
Kidding aside, I hope 76's disastrous launch and CanvasGate will inspire Bethesda to make Starfield amazing. Whether or not that actually happens is a giant speculation game at this point.
Someone can refund by doing a charge back of whatever bank they use. Instant ban on bethesda's store site but oh well who cares about that anyway lol. Not like its steam or some major retail site like ubisoft/ea's origin.
But if companies don't offer a refund, then they deserve to be charged back on when they don't deliver. And I bet that is why (at least one major reason) bethesda didn't use steam, because of steam's very refund friendly policies (which they didn't use to be of course, but they are by far the best at refunds these days).
Steam didn't start offering refunds out of the goodness of their hearts, I believe they lost a court battle. Hopefully the lawsuit against Bethesda goes well and they are forced to offer refunds as well.
The message that a lot of players don't care if a game is a buggy mess and will buy it anyway has already been sent by a lot of other games. That's usually the message that pre-orders send, for example. Crowdfunding usually sends that message even more strongly: a lot of people care more about the list of features that a company hopes to implement than what they actually dehliver.
So long as that's what a lot of players want, why shouldn't there be companies that deliver it? If you bought a game that was widely known to be a buggy mess, and that upsets you, then why'd you buy it? If that's not what you want, then don't pay for games until they're in a state where you're happy to play them as they are.
Strangely enough many people buy games knowing up front there is likely to be significant challenges yet they press on forward regardless.
I read the early beta reviews which clearly showed most of the "problems" in the article, and I seriously considered cancelling my preorder, which I could easily have done.
In the end I chose not to as I'm a Fallout 4 fanboy and I find the gameplay to be very much like it in FO 76.
Heck, ran this escort quest in Morgantown last night with 2 other random players and while they didn't chatter like my companions in FO4, they were a hell of a better shot and basically wrecked the hordes of ghouls on top of us.
Fair trade off I think.
If you're happy playing the game as it is, then good for you. Polish in a game isn't an end in itself, but only a means to an end. The end goal is having fun. Or at least, I play computer games for fun. Some gamers seem to think that's weird.
Seems like you think what YOU consider "fun" is what others should agree with. Game has bugs as is - it's still fun TO ME. Sadly for you, your opinion is worth just as much as mine - NOTHING. Get off your high horse.
Oh heavens no, the view from up here is pretty fabulous.
Hey, if you missed it - I wasn't commenting on your post.
I've experienced a plethora of problems with this game just to list a few here: 1. Typical Fallout inventory problems (POWER ARMOR CHASSIS - what's in it?) 2. Your camp bugging out and deleting your water purifier(s) 3. Not seeing your buddies as "online" when they are 4. Several perks not working 4b. Several Power Armor mods not working 5. Scorched bats not landing at all (fun for melee character) 6. Quests missing until you log off 7. Having to re-join a team every single time you switch a server 8. Sharing perk cards randomly disappearing and having to re-apply them 9. Dropping items glitching through the ground 10. Boiled water and Purified water have to be used separately - why?
That's from the top of my head within 1 minute of thinking - that's not all by a long shot.
I still like to play the game though, especially after lvl 50.
The message that a lot of players don't care if a game is a buggy mess and will buy it anyway has already been sent by a lot of other games. That's usually the message that pre-orders send, for example. Crowdfunding usually sends that message even more strongly: a lot of people care more about the list of features that a company hopes to implement than what they actually dehliver.
So long as that's what a lot of players want, why shouldn't there be companies that deliver it? If you bought a game that was widely known to be a buggy mess, and that upsets you, then why'd you buy it? If that's not what you want, then don't pay for games until they're in a state where you're happy to play them as they are.
Strangely enough many people buy games knowing up front there is likely to be significant challenges yet they press on forward regardless.
I read the early beta reviews which clearly showed most of the "problems" in the article, and I seriously considered cancelling my preorder, which I could easily have done.
In the end I chose not to as I'm a Fallout 4 fanboy and I find the gameplay to be very much like it in FO 76.
Heck, ran this escort quest in Morgantown last night with 2 other random players and while they didn't chatter like my companions in FO4, they were a hell of a better shot and basically wrecked the hordes of ghouls on top of us.
Fair trade off I think.
If you're happy playing the game as it is, then good for you. Polish in a game isn't an end in itself, but only a means to an end. The end goal is having fun. Or at least, I play computer games for fun. Some gamers seem to think that's weird.
Seems like you think what YOU consider "fun" is what others should agree with. Game has bugs as is - it's still fun TO ME. Sadly for you, your opinion is worth just as much as mine - NOTHING. Get off your high horse.
Oh heavens no, the view from up here is pretty fabulous.
Hey, if you missed it - I wasn't commenting on your post.
I've experienced a plethora of problems with this game just to list a few here: 1. Typical Fallout inventory problems (POWER ARMOR CHASSIS - what's in it?) 2. Your camp bugging out and deleting your water purifier(s) 3. Not seeing your buddies as "online" when they are 4. Several perks not working 4b. Several Power Armor mods not working 5. Scorched bats not landing at all (fun for melee character) 6. Quests missing until you log off 7. Having to re-join a team every single time you switch a server 8. Sharing perk cards randomly disappearing and having to re-apply them 9. Dropping items glitching through the ground 10. Boiled water and Purified water have to be used separately - why?
That's from the top of my head within 1 minute of thinking - that's not all by a long shot.
I still like to play the game though, especially after lvl 50.
I've been playing for a week now, all early low level areas and always solo so I haven't experienced any of the above really.
I've yet to put down a camp, I did note scorched beast wasn't landing in Morgantown public quest so as a melee character with no one else around I got out of there.
I actually hit my first buggy evening, upon logging in I was getting momentary server not available messages and actions were lagging like 30 seconds....
But it seemed to stabilize some, but throughout the night I kept noticing odd things, loot in Morgantown was almost non existent at first, and I swear I saw ghouls shuffle around a corner or behind a bus and went I chased after they were dead yet I saw no other players nor heard any shots.
Whenever I would play a tape I found laying in the world ...it sounded like it had reached the end with just a hissing noise. I found if I stopped and restarted the tape would play normally.
Regardless I was staying up way too late which Bethesda must have known as they helpfully disconnected me from the server in the middle of crafting some food, I'm sure that's a loss, hope I didnt lose all the junk I was carrying.
Question, are issues like this server specific, meaning would it have helped if I logged off and back on to a new one?
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Based on all the reviews and videos I’ve reviewed, here’s what I think...Come on! Ive been playing since launch, and I’m only level 40, but I’m really enjoying the world, the story, and the people. The game looks amazing and plays smoothly. I’ve had some mobs skate or loop here and there. No server issues that I don’t also see in other games. I just don’t see the big complaint. I’m thinking that consoles cant handle the game properly, and people are overestimating what their PC can handle. The majority of people in the game are having a blast; the people making all the noise aren’t playing or haven’t played.
The message that a lot of players don't care if a game is a buggy mess and will buy it anyway has already been sent by a lot of other games. That's usually the message that pre-orders send, for example. Crowdfunding usually sends that message even more strongly: a lot of people care more about the list of features that a company hopes to implement than what they actually dehliver.
So long as that's what a lot of players want, why shouldn't there be companies that deliver it? If you bought a game that was widely known to be a buggy mess, and that upsets you, then why'd you buy it? If that's not what you want, then don't pay for games until they're in a state where you're happy to play them as they are.
Strangely enough many people buy games knowing up front there is likely to be significant challenges yet they press on forward regardless.
I read the early beta reviews which clearly showed most of the "problems" in the article, and I seriously considered cancelling my preorder, which I could easily have done.
In the end I chose not to as I'm a Fallout 4 fanboy and I find the gameplay to be very much like it in FO 76.
Heck, ran this escort quest in Morgantown last night with 2 other random players and while they didn't chatter like my companions in FO4, they were a hell of a better shot and basically wrecked the hordes of ghouls on top of us.
Fair trade off I think.
If you're happy playing the game as it is, then good for you. Polish in a game isn't an end in itself, but only a means to an end. The end goal is having fun. Or at least, I play computer games for fun. Some gamers seem to think that's weird.
Seems like you think what YOU consider "fun" is what others should agree with. Game has bugs as is - it's still fun TO ME. Sadly for you, your opinion is worth just as much as mine - NOTHING. Get off your high horse.
I've never played the game and probably never will. But that doesn't mean that I'm going to try to convince someone who is happy that he should be miserable instead.
It is already too late. Fallout 76 may never do well, but it is already past the failure point. You also have to consider what 'lessons' would be learned by any failure. If one game does poorly, does it actually change anything? If not, then then it doesn't matter.
What counts much more than any failure, is a success. Companies chase success, but they don't always avoid failures. Companies will overlook 100 failures, and try to replicate that one success (often not understanding WHY it was a success, when others failed).
""Bad ideas, and bad executions of bad ideas, must fail"."
It worked before, why it shouldnt now? All their games are just mediocre. They always rely on modders, even TESO - subscription (on release) MMO have mods!
And "Must fail" sounds like some kid that bought the game, got disappointed and didnt get refund. And now just raging.
Ok, it will so what? Bethesda still going to keep making low quality shiFt products.
Kids always like to blame somebody who pissed them right now. They dont see big picture.
Look, Bioware for example, how are they better? They didnt finished DAI, released Andomeda in aplha state. But they still exist. Do you think, they are going to finish Anthem? And what excuse they will come up this time, if not?
Thats not the point, the whole problem that theres no quality control. In fact quality getting worse, but every new game cost more and more...because of bla bla bla piracy and because there are bazillion people that work so hard to make it and they all need to buy a mansion. Whos gonna save our monopoly - its almighty Denuvo, for multiplayer/mmo theres mustardcart.
And for the "commercially fail" its too late. This game looks like f2p - they already got the PROFIT.
(Seriously, look - TESO: Morrowind Chapter goes with base game now. And they giveaway murkmire for free).
Plus that story with bags.
"I fundamentally believe people who claim to enjoy this game while casually casting aside its major problems are wrong to do so. It is so thoroughly ignorant and frankly, a dangerously naive mindset to have. By claiming to enjoy the game in the face of overwhelming evidence, consumers and media are merely showing Bethesda that this behavior is acceptable. It’s not. People need to wake up."
This should be the header for all forum topics here. Just replace Bethesda with the appropriate studio.
Well said Pooma. I couldn't agree more. It's bending over backwards to forgive and defend all of these ever so common consumer insults that hurts gaming more than any other thing.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
"I fundamentally believe people who claim to enjoy this game while casually casting aside its major problems are wrong to do so. It is so thoroughly ignorant and frankly, a dangerously naive mindset to have. By claiming to enjoy the game in the face of overwhelming evidence, consumers and media are merely showing Bethesda that this behavior is acceptable. It’s not. People need to wake up."
This should be the header for all forum topics here. Just replace Bethesda with the appropriate studio.
Well said Pooma. I couldn't agree more. It's bending over backwards to forgive and defend all of these ever so common consumer insults that hurts gaming more than any other thing.
I am all for having principles and holding high standards. But advocating such values becomes so much harder, and even ridiculous to many people and for good reasons. Because it is a hobby afterall and most would only care about having fun or not. To tell them that is wrong is dead wrong.
Constantine, The Console Poster
"One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
My solution is for critics to reveal the problems and inform people and leave the consumers to have their own judgment. Attacking the consumer is not helpful and would even push the consumers away from the critics.
Constantine, The Console Poster
"One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
FO 76 already did a few things 'right'. Immediately cutting it in half price wise was one.
I don't see it as being half price. Where, for PC, is it Half price?
Also curious about this. Every sight I checked is asking $59.99 for the base game as of today (12-4).
exactly. I've seen videos with people saying that it's slashed but nowhere do I see it slashed.
It's full price on the Bethesda site, Amazon, GameStop, and Walmart. Target has it for $10 cheaper. But that's not half.
Oddly enough, the price cuts have only remained for console copies. Not sure why the PC copies wouldn't enjoy the same price point, the traditional wisdom would be that they don't need to slash prices for PC.
That would also be consistent with the idea that Fallout has always been a predominantly PC franchise and, as such, there are likely more die-hard Fallout fans on PC than consoles. However, for a PC title, the issues are at its worst, including things such as FPS-tethered physics and lack of PTT or FoV settings.
The game is currently full price on all platforms. The massive price drop was during Black Friday and Cyber Monday. I think Amazon has the console physical version for $50 right now. All digital versions going for $60.
"I fundamentally believe people who claim to enjoy this game while casually casting aside its major problems are wrong to do so. It is so thoroughly ignorant and frankly, a dangerously naive mindset to have. By claiming to enjoy the game in the face of overwhelming evidence, consumers and media are merely showing Bethesda that this behavior is acceptable. It’s not. People need to wake up."
This should be the header for all forum topics here. Just replace Bethesda with the appropriate studio.
Well said Pooma. I couldn't agree more. It's bending over backwards to forgive and defend all of these ever so common consumer insults that hurts gaming more than any other thing.
I am all for having principles and holding high standards. But advocating such values becomes so much harder, and even ridiculous to many people and for good reasons. Because it is a hobby afterall and most would only care about having fun or not. To tell them that is wrong is dead wrong.
It's precisely because it's a hobby that they get away with the shit quality and putting up with it only makes the hobby worse. Pooma is right on the money.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
"I fundamentally believe people who claim to enjoy this game while casually casting aside its major problems are wrong to do so. It is so thoroughly ignorant and frankly, a dangerously naive mindset to have. By claiming to enjoy the game in the face of overwhelming evidence, consumers and media are merely showing Bethesda that this behavior is acceptable. It’s not. People need to wake up."
This should be the header for all forum topics here. Just replace Bethesda with the appropriate studio.
Well said Pooma. I couldn't agree more. It's bending over backwards to forgive and defend all of these ever so common consumer insults that hurts gaming more than any other thing.
I am all for having principles and holding high standards. But advocating such values becomes so much harder, and even ridiculous to many people and for good reasons. Because it is a hobby afterall and most would only care about having fun or not. To tell them that is wrong is dead wrong.
It's precisely because it's a hobby that they get away with the shit quality and putting up with it only makes the hobby worse. Pooma is right on the money.
Yeah I know. I am pointing out that telling people that they are wrong to have fun when they are having fun has never worked. Has it?
Constantine, The Console Poster
"One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
Just when I'm finally about to go to bed, this thread catches me... all your fault, ya varmints!
Failure of a new game can be a good thing. A clear indication of something that doesn't really work. It gives coders something to work on and some experience in what does and doesn't work.
Failure of a -next- game in a big franchise is something different. It often has big money behind it. And if it doesn't make money, then the franchise STOPS getting big money behind it.
We can pretend that the game will then go back to its roots... I REALLY hope that happens, but I doubt it. It just blows my mind that in Fallout 76, the decision was to strip the series of everything that made it great, leave everything that made it mediocre at best, and then sell that at $60 + micro. It was ALWAYS a mediocre shooter.
If we stuck to our online guns and gamers gave anything below par the panning it deserved then we would have a better gaming industry for it.
FO76 should never have been released as a full priced game, if it was say half the average price of a AAA release I do not think people would have the issues with it we have seen. But if you pay top money you expect certain minimum standards.
Fallout 76 can't be a failure if Bethesda doesn't offer refunds.
Kidding aside, I hope 76's disastrous launch and CanvasGate will inspire Bethesda to make Starfield amazing. Whether or not that actually happens is a giant speculation game at this point.
i got game refunded but i played game only 1 hour and refunded same day game lauched.
I'm personally having a lot of fun with the game and haven't run into any game-breaking bugs, but according to a post on reddit, there has been a duping exploit that is now being widely spread. Add to that, I've seen a stash stealing exploit mentioned. If these things go on for very long it most definetely will spell the end for the game. I know I'd be severely pissed if my entire stash got looted. I'll take that as a rumor until I see some evidence of it happening though.
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Strangely enough many people buy games knowing up front there is likely to be significant challenges yet they press on forward regardless.
I read the early beta reviews which clearly showed most of the "problems" in the article, and I seriously considered cancelling my preorder, which I could easily have done.
In the end I chose not to as I'm a Fallout 4 fanboy and I find the gameplay to be very much like it in FO 76.
Heck, ran this escort quest in Morgantown last night with 2 other random players and while they didn't chatter like my companions in FO4, they were a hell of a better shot and basically wrecked the hordes of ghouls on top of us.
Fair trade off I think.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I would like to ask some specific questions about the game from one of the "journalists" that shits on the game (PM if interested - I will record you). I bet you, it would be "uhhmmm, errr, ohh, what?" as they have not read those things from reddit and parroting bullshit to get more traffic on their site.
Gotta make that clickbait-revenue.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Still - my earlier bet is on.
Get off your high horse.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Steam didn't start offering refunds out of the goodness of their hearts, I believe they lost a court battle. Hopefully the lawsuit against Bethesda goes well and they are forced to offer refunds as well.
I've experienced a plethora of problems with this game just to list a few here:
1. Typical Fallout inventory problems (POWER ARMOR CHASSIS - what's in it?)
2. Your camp bugging out and deleting your water purifier(s)
3. Not seeing your buddies as "online" when they are
4. Several perks not working
4b. Several Power Armor mods not working
5. Scorched bats not landing at all (fun for melee character)
6. Quests missing until you log off
7. Having to re-join a team every single time you switch a server
8. Sharing perk cards randomly disappearing and having to re-apply them
9. Dropping items glitching through the ground
10. Boiled water and Purified water have to be used separately - why?
That's from the top of my head within 1 minute of thinking - that's not all by a long shot.
I still like to play the game though, especially after lvl 50.
I've yet to put down a camp, I did note scorched beast wasn't landing in Morgantown public quest so as a melee character with no one else around I got out of there.
I actually hit my first buggy evening, upon logging in I was getting momentary server not available messages and actions were lagging like 30 seconds....
But it seemed to stabilize some, but throughout the night I kept noticing odd things, loot in Morgantown was almost non existent at first, and I swear I saw ghouls shuffle around a corner or behind a bus and went I chased after they were dead yet I saw no other players nor heard any shots.
Whenever I would play a tape I found laying in the world ...it sounded like it had reached the end with just a hissing noise. I found if I stopped and restarted the tape would play normally.
Regardless I was staying up way too late which Bethesda must have known as they helpfully disconnected me from the server in the middle of crafting some food, I'm sure that's a loss, hope I didnt lose all the junk I was carrying.
Question, are issues like this server specific, meaning would it have helped if I logged off and back on to a new one?
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What counts much more than any failure, is a success. Companies chase success, but they don't always avoid failures. Companies will overlook 100 failures, and try to replicate that one success (often not understanding WHY it was a success, when others failed).
It worked before, why it shouldnt now? All their games are just mediocre. They always rely on modders, even TESO - subscription (on release) MMO have mods!
And "Must fail" sounds like some kid that bought the game, got disappointed and didnt get refund. And now just raging.
Ok, it will so what? Bethesda still going to keep making low quality shiFt products.
Kids always like to blame somebody who pissed them right now. They dont see big picture.
Look, Bioware for example, how are they better? They didnt finished DAI, released Andomeda in aplha state. But they still exist. Do you think, they are going to finish Anthem? And what excuse they will come up this time, if not?
Thats not the point, the whole problem that theres no quality control. In fact quality getting worse, but every new game cost more and more...because of bla bla bla piracy and because there are bazillion people that work so hard to make it and they all need to buy a mansion. Whos gonna save our monopoly - its almighty Denuvo, for multiplayer/mmo theres mustardcart.
And for the "commercially fail" its too late. This game looks like f2p - they already got the PROFIT.
(Seriously, look - TESO: Morrowind Chapter goes with base game now. And they giveaway murkmire for free).
Plus that story with bags.
Lets see what other GAME company doing:
https://barkingirons.com/collections/red-dead-redemption-2
This should be the header for all forum topics here. Just replace Bethesda with the appropriate studio.
Well said Pooma. I couldn't agree more. It's bending over backwards to forgive and defend all of these ever so common consumer insults that hurts gaming more than any other thing.
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Failure of a new game can be a good thing. A clear indication of something that doesn't really work. It gives coders something to work on and some experience in what does and doesn't work.
Failure of a -next- game in a big franchise is something different. It often has big money behind it. And if it doesn't make money, then the franchise STOPS getting big money behind it.
We can pretend that the game will then go back to its roots... I REALLY hope that happens, but I doubt it. It just blows my mind that in Fallout 76, the decision was to strip the series of everything that made it great, leave everything that made it mediocre at best, and then sell that at $60 + micro. It was ALWAYS a mediocre shooter.
Who made this decision?
FO76 should never have been released as a full priced game, if it was say half the average price of a AAA release I do not think people would have the issues with it we have seen. But if you pay top money you expect certain minimum standards.
i got game refunded