Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
it was only down a couple days, Been back up and running since the 22nd or 23rd..The C&D was fake sent by a troller from 4chan
Really? I hope that is good news, then
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
there is about 4000 people Queued right now for COH, this isnt counting the 3000 playes on each server. thats 2 servers total 6000 Plus Q players 4000 = 10000 people wanting to play COH on a Saturday night
The fact that so many of you think IP theft is "cool" and "acceptable" because it allows you play a game you liked that went away, is the absolute height of entitled thinking.
there is about 4000 people Queued right now for COH, this isnt counting the 3000 playes on each server. thats 2 servers total 6000 Plus Q players 4000 = 10000 people wanting to play COH on a Saturday night
That's crazy considering Wildstar topped out at 5k when it went f2p. lol
The fact that so many of you think IP theft is "cool" and "acceptable" because it allows you play a game you liked that went away, is the absolute height of entitled thinking.
Yeah and you never Boosted a grape at the grocery store too ....
The fact that so many of you think IP theft is "cool" and "acceptable" because it allows you play a game you liked that went away, is the absolute height of entitled thinking.
Yeah and you never Boosted a grape at the grocery store too ....
The fact that so many of you think IP theft is "cool" and "acceptable" because it allows you play a game you liked that went away, is the absolute height of entitled thinking.
Yeah and you never Boosted a grape at the grocery store too ....
Why would anyone steal a grape? Odd comparison.
Maybe you're hungry.
When all is said and done, more is always said than done.
The fact that so many of you think IP theft is "cool" and "acceptable" because it allows you play a game you liked that went away, is the absolute height of entitled thinking.
Oh the horror stealing a dead game to give it away and not make any profit off it.
I bet they j-walk at 3am when no cars are around too, those criminal scum. lol
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Thought this site only allowed legal servers to be posted?
The relevant site ground rules:
We are only allowing the discussion of private/emulated servers for games that are canceled or shutdown.
We reserve the right to disallow the discussion of private/emulated servers for a particular game (or the topic altogether) at any time. We don't want to get into any legal issues, so if a studio complains, we're going to have to take action.
These discussions may only take place within this subforum.
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Thought this site only allowed legal servers to be posted?
The relevant site ground rules:
We are only allowing the discussion of private/emulated servers for games that are canceled or shutdown.
We reserve the right to disallow the discussion of private/emulated servers for a particular game (or the topic altogether) at any time. We don't want to get into any legal issues, so if a studio complains, we're going to have to take action.
These discussions may only take place within this subforum.
Yes. All this discussion is doing is giving free advertising to an operation based on pirated code. Sounds like a potential legal entanglement to me. Selling stolen goods is called fencing. How is a service based on stolen technology any different, legally? How many people would even know about 'private' COH servers without this site and others? This should have been shut down days ago.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
Thought this site only allowed legal servers to be posted?
The relevant site ground rules:
We are only allowing the discussion of private/emulated servers for games that are canceled or shutdown.
We reserve the right to disallow the discussion of private/emulated servers for a particular game (or the topic altogether) at any time. We don't want to get into any legal issues, so if a studio complains, we're going to have to take action.
These discussions may only take place within this subforum.
Yes. All this discussion is doing is giving free advertising to an operation based on pirated code. Sounds like a potential legal entanglement to me. Selling stolen goods is called fencing. How is a service based on stolen technology any different, legally? How many people would even know about 'private' COH servers without this site and others? This should have been shut down days ago.
If NCSoft requests these threads be taken down it appears MMORPG.com will comply.
Not sure MassivelyOP, Kotaku and many others will though.
Not really possible to put the genie back in the bottle.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Thought this site only allowed legal servers to be posted?
The relevant site ground rules:
We are only allowing the discussion of private/emulated servers for games that are canceled or shutdown.
We reserve the right to disallow the discussion of private/emulated servers for a particular game (or the topic altogether) at any time. We don't want to get into any legal issues, so if a studio complains, we're going to have to take action.
These discussions may only take place within this subforum.
Yes. All this discussion is doing is giving free advertising to an operation based on pirated code. Sounds like a potential legal entanglement to me. Selling stolen goods is called fencing. How is a service based on stolen technology any different, legally? How many people would even know about 'private' COH servers without this site and others? This should have been shut down days ago.
If NCSoft requests these threads be taken down it appears MMORPG.com will comply.
Not sure MassivelyOP, Kotaku and many others will though.
Not really possible to put the genie back in the bottle.
I'M kind of shocked that they are letting people even post about this here. I got a ban warning over doing this. I guess when it comes to COX the rules don't apply.
Thought this site only allowed legal servers to be posted?
The relevant site ground rules:
We are only allowing the discussion of private/emulated servers for games that are canceled or shutdown.
We reserve the right to disallow the discussion of private/emulated servers for a particular game (or the topic altogether) at any time. We don't want to get into any legal issues, so if a studio complains, we're going to have to take action.
These discussions may only take place within this subforum.
Yes. All this discussion is doing is giving free advertising to an operation based on pirated code. Sounds like a potential legal entanglement to me. Selling stolen goods is called fencing. How is a service based on stolen technology any different, legally? How many people would even know about 'private' COH servers without this site and others? This should have been shut down days ago.
If NCSoft requests these threads be taken down it appears MMORPG.com will comply.
Not sure MassivelyOP, Kotaku and many others will though.
Not really possible to put the genie back in the bottle.
I'M kind of shocked that they are letting people even post about this here. I got a ban warning over doing this. I guess when it comes to COX the rules don't apply.
Yea I remember that happening when people talked about p99 until the server was allowed. This definitely isn't allowed. They're basically promoting an illegal server by allowing the threads
Thought this site only allowed legal servers to be posted?
The relevant site ground rules:
We are only allowing the discussion of private/emulated servers for games that are canceled or shutdown.
We reserve the right to disallow the discussion of private/emulated servers for a particular game (or the topic altogether) at any time. We don't want to get into any legal issues, so if a studio complains, we're going to have to take action.
These discussions may only take place within this subforum.
Yes. All this discussion is doing is giving free advertising to an operation based on pirated code. Sounds like a potential legal entanglement to me. Selling stolen goods is called fencing. How is a service based on stolen technology any different, legally? How many people would even know about 'private' COH servers without this site and others? This should have been shut down days ago.
They'd have a hard time proving that MMORPG.com was personally responsible for the content of its users. Only in very specific circumstances do the courts here in the U.S. hold the online publisher liable for user-generated content (one instance is when the site publisher manipulates the user content in a way that makes it illegal).
There's a swell of sentiment that site publishers should share some responsibility for said content, but as far as I know there's no good precedence for such liability yet. As it stands, the still-widely-held opinion here in the U.S. is that holding website publishers themselves liable for user-generated content would place too much stress on freedom of speech and online economies.
As Beatnik pointed out before, the service thing is a little more complicated than it seems most want to admit. It's a question of if terms of service are binding once the provider of said service stops providing it.
The fact that so many of you think IP theft is "cool" and "acceptable" because it allows you play a game you liked that went away, is the absolute height of entitled thinking.
The problem is - is it?
CoH was sold to players. And were it has been tested in courts software has been defined to be a product. Giving it all the IP and trademark protections of any other products but also giving customers the same consumer protections.
Lets take an analogy. You buy a car from Toyota, Ford, whoever. A car is another product. And one day the company close down the production line and as a result your car is no longer supported.
If you carry on driving around are you guilty of theft? If you use third party parts to repair your car are you guilty of theft?
And if you want a non-hardware example think about music you might have bought from Apple say - if they close down tomorrow and you carry on playing your tunes - using an emulator - would you be guilty of theft?
When CoH etc. launched companies wanted the upfront money and they wanted a monthly sub as well to cover - as was said at the time - the very real expense involved in buying and running servers.
For companies one of the attractions of "Gaming as a Service" is that - as it is with Netflix, Amazon Prime, Spotify etc. you are not buying the content. It represents a very clear divide between ownership and renting. This was not the case when CoH, SWG etc. launched.
To be clear I am not suggesting that everyone playing today bought the game. And I don't condone them. Some people may have bought the game though - I did but I'm not playing - and as a result there are consumer as well as company issues at stake.
The fact that so many of you think IP theft is "cool" and "acceptable" because it allows you play a game you liked that went away, is the absolute height of entitled thinking.
well arnt you a good boy, Im sure NCSoft is so proud of you. . .
The fact that so many of you think IP theft is "cool" and "acceptable" because it allows you play a game you liked that went away, is the absolute height of entitled thinking.
well arnt you a good boy, Im sure NCSoft is so proud of you. . .
IP theft is a completely different issue than NCsoft.
IP theft = universally bad i.e. stealing
NCsoft = I despise them but regardless of how they are, IP theft is wrong.
Did I play on the server? Absolutely. Just to check out the game and I realized it is just another ho-hum MMO (with amazing customization features). Thus, i won't be playing it any more.
Should i have played on the private server? Probably not as I am associating with IP theft, but rationalization is a funny thing, isn't it.
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Comments
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Too many people posting here have none.
The fact that so many of you think IP theft is "cool" and "acceptable" because it allows you play a game you liked that went away, is the absolute height of entitled thinking.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
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Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
Not sure MassivelyOP, Kotaku and many others will though.
Not really possible to put the genie back in the bottle.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
There's a swell of sentiment that site publishers should share some responsibility for said content, but as far as I know there's no good precedence for such liability yet. As it stands, the still-widely-held opinion here in the U.S. is that holding website publishers themselves liable for user-generated content would place too much stress on freedom of speech and online economies.
As Beatnik pointed out before, the service thing is a little more complicated than it seems most want to admit. It's a question of if terms of service are binding once the provider of said service stops providing it.
CoH was sold to players. And were it has been tested in courts software has been defined to be a product. Giving it all the IP and trademark protections of any other products but also giving customers the same consumer protections.
Lets take an analogy. You buy a car from Toyota, Ford, whoever. A car is another product. And one day the company close down the production line and as a result your car is no longer supported.
If you carry on driving around are you guilty of theft? If you use third party parts to repair your car are you guilty of theft?
And if you want a non-hardware example think about music you might have bought from Apple say - if they close down tomorrow and you carry on playing your tunes - using an emulator - would you be guilty of theft?
When CoH etc. launched companies wanted the upfront money and they wanted a monthly sub as well to cover - as was said at the time - the very real expense involved in buying and running servers.
For companies one of the attractions of "Gaming as a Service" is that - as it is with Netflix, Amazon Prime, Spotify etc. you are not buying the content. It represents a very clear divide between ownership and renting. This was not the case when CoH, SWG etc. launched.
To be clear I am not suggesting that everyone playing today bought the game. And I don't condone them. Some people may have bought the game though - I did but I'm not playing - and as a result there are consumer as well as company issues at stake.
IP theft = universally bad i.e. stealing
NCsoft = I despise them but regardless of how they are, IP theft is wrong.
Did I play on the server? Absolutely. Just to check out the game and I realized it is just another ho-hum MMO (with amazing customization features). Thus, i won't be playing it any more.
Should i have played on the private server? Probably not as I am associating with IP theft, but rationalization is a funny thing, isn't it.
You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.