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New MMORPG Eternal Magic accused of ripping off Guild Wars 2, World of Warcraft and SMITE - MMORPG.

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edited October 2019 in News & Features Discussion

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Controversy brews as new MMORPG Eternal Magic is accused of ripping of Guild Wars 2, World of Warcraft, and SMITE.

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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,485
    edited October 2019
    I gotta say, some of that stuff is a direct ripoff.
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  • PalebanePalebane Member RarePosts: 4,011
    Sounds like a fail game then.

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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,061
    The truly amazing thing is that they chose to rip off the worst PvP map.

    Seriously, Skyhammer is a fuckdump.
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,485

    Iselin said:


    saker said:

    In POO-tins FASCIST russia what would you expect? It's alllll about the rubles!


    It's a Chinese game lol.



    Yep, they love them some knock-offs, just look at any page on Amazon.
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  • ThaneThane Member EpicPosts: 3,534

    Iselin said:


    saker said:

    In POO-tins FASCIST russia what would you expect? It's alllll about the rubles!


    It's a Chinese game lol.



    and they thin sueing asians about copyrights would lead somewhere? cute thought ^^
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  • NanbinoNanbino Member UncommonPosts: 168
    Tencent just baught out 29% of funcom becoming largest holder. Expect more of this. They also are bypassing many nations economically. So prepare to be blocked from society on your high-tech social credit you all support through buying tech not made in USA.
    You will all reap what you sow soon. No go forth and keep paying for those apps, games, and iPhones. Built you own Babylon.

    I mean. Hurrhurr Russians.
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  • xybedoutxybedout Member UncommonPosts: 58
    Looking at that icon comparison it would seem like they actually stole assets, not just ripped off the styles or ideas/design. Or they got some talented artists willing to go through a lot of hard work to make exact copies.. o.O
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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    Was it so hard to place the items in another configuration even if you straight out rip them off?

  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Iselin said:
    saker said:
    In POO-tins FASCIST russia what would you expect? It's alllll about the rubles!
    It's a Chinese game lol.
    its all red pvp terrority, whats the difference ..  :o 
    While the only difference is in the spelling, China is a Communist country, not sure about Russia these days, though they 'used' to also be a Communist country, fascism is more associated with European countries historically. :/
  • NephethNepheth Member RarePosts: 473
    Not just these but they are using WoW sound effects. Like literally the same skill, mob and interface sound effects. When I first saw Cryy playing this game I can't believe what I heard tbh.The boars, spiders, wolfs, firebolt, eating food sound effects all of them and more are %100 stolen from WoW. Not only the beginning of the game but I see some people fighting %100 knock off end games bosses which are literally stolen from WoW. It's disgusting knowing they can easily get away with this shit just because they are a Chinese company...
  • Shooter564567Shooter564567 Member UncommonPosts: 44
    its China.. they can rip off anyone they want
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  • SpiiderSpiider Member RarePosts: 1,135
    edited October 2019

    saker said:

    In POO-tins FASCIST russia what would you expect? It's alllll about the rubles!



    And western companies donate their profits to the homeless and the poor... riiiight.

    WOW Is a ripoff of every other mmo before it, yet no one wasted a breath to scream on forums about it.
    Fortnite is a ripoff of pubg yet no one screams that it should be shut down.

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  • vegetableoilvegetableoil Member RarePosts: 768
    I smell lawsuit, let the blood bath begins.
  • yonpachiyonpachi Member UncommonPosts: 191
    How could they get away with this?
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    edited October 2019
    yonpachi said:
    How could they get away with this?
    Its China. Copyright laws work differently there (aka they dont exist in China). Laws are only good if governments are willing to enforce them. The worst that will happen to the company behind this is that they just wont be able to have the game in other regions unless things are changed, just like that mobile game League of Angels had to do (they straight up stole FFXIV's 1.0 opening cinematic and used it as their own).
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  • VandarixVandarix Member UncommonPosts: 177
    Every single one of those MMO's Ripped off another MMO WoW stole more than any of them... not even funny.
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  • CryomatrixCryomatrix Member EpicPosts: 3,223
    Honestly, is anyone surprised?

    A western MMO takes so long to make apparently, and every month some cheesy eastern MMO, with loli and pedophile looking characters, have a sleazy ad on this website.

    What else did you think they were doing? Burning the midnight oil? Or enjoying the five fingered discount? 

    They just regurgitate bullshit due to theft, give a lame name, sell it, and then rinse and repeat. Just look at what is advertised on this site.


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  • elockeelocke Member UncommonPosts: 4,335
    The moment I killed a wolf, a boar and a bear and heard the exact same sounds from WoW that I've been playing for 15+ years topped next to the starter zone music sounding like someone took the music from Elwynn Forest and just changed a few notes to make it "seem" different, I uninstalled with haste.  Not surprised at the audacity, it is China of course, they have no morals when it comes to art or business..or life in general, lol.  But I refuse to give them the time of day or padding for their numbers.
  • vegetableoilvegetableoil Member RarePosts: 768
    edited October 2019
    Albatroes said:
    yonpachi said:
    How could they get away with this?
    Its China. Copyright laws work differently there (aka they dont exist in China). Laws are only good if governments are willing to enforce them. The worst that will happen to the company behind this is that they just wont be able to have the game in other regions unless things are changed, just like that mobile game League of Angels had to do (they straight up stole FFXIV's 1.0 opening cinematic and used it as their own).
    Actually copyright laws in china works the same like the rest of the world, but you can't make people follow it and also it is very costly to disprove that it is a copy with sufficient alterations. Enforcing copyright on 1.4 billions people is harder than to enforce it on say 40 million people. but lets say blizzard told tencent "hey look this company makes a copy of our games and it's going to hurt profitability, so we might give you less money" then tencent could hire lawyers and sue for copyright infringement on behalf of blizzard since they own a portion of blizzard. You can sue as a foreign company but the process will take longer because when you sue you better have proves ready otherwise they will just dismiss the case outright, but for court to reach a decision it won't take longer than 30 days. They will comply with the copyright laws, but if the company does not sue of course the chinese government won't care. I've sued people in china for non payment it only takes 1 week after the court judgement before they churn out the money, where when I did not sue, the person that owes me money drag it along up to like 6 months citing bad business etc etc. And when you sue chinese company you sue them in china, don't sue them in the states, chinese government will ignore judgement passed outside china. And also hire chinese law firm, don't use us law firm.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Vandarix said:
    Every single one of those MMO's Ripped off another MMO WoW stole more than any of them... not even funny.
    You seem to not be able to tell the difference between copying ideas and reworking them to suit your purpose and outright copying of music, sounds, art assets and plopping them down in a shit game.

    One of those is perfectly OK in all art forms where what came before influences what comes after and the other one is theft.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Albatroes said:
    yonpachi said:
    How could they get away with this?
    Its China. Copyright laws work differently there (aka they dont exist in China). Laws are only good if governments are willing to enforce them. The worst that will happen to the company behind this is that they just wont be able to have the game in other regions unless things are changed, just like that mobile game League of Angels had to do (they straight up stole FFXIV's 1.0 opening cinematic and used it as their own).
    Actually copyright laws in china works the same like the rest of the world, but you can't make people follow it and also it is very costly to disprove that it is a copy with sufficient alterations. Enforcing copyright on 1.4 billions people is harder than to enforce it on say 40 million people. but lets say blizzard told tencent "hey look this company makes a copy of our games and it's going to hurt profitability, so we might give you less money" then tencent could hire lawyers and sue for copyright infringement on behalf of blizzard since they own a portion of blizzard. You can sue as a foreign company but the process will take longer because when you sue you better have proves ready otherwise they will just dismiss the case outright, but for court to reach a decision it won't take longer than 30 days. They will comply with the copyright laws, but if the company does not sue of course the chinese government won't care.
    There are many, many cases of copyright enforcement in China being very lax on violations against foreign companies - especially those without an active presence in China - and not so lax enforcement for violations against other Chinese IPs.

    There are even cases where the very same claim was ignored but got some life after Tencent bought the complainant's business... just ask Riot about that. 
    Asm0deus
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  • vegetableoilvegetableoil Member RarePosts: 768
    Iselin said:
    Albatroes said:
    yonpachi said:
    How could they get away with this?
    Its China. Copyright laws work differently there (aka they dont exist in China). Laws are only good if governments are willing to enforce them. The worst that will happen to the company behind this is that they just wont be able to have the game in other regions unless things are changed, just like that mobile game League of Angels had to do (they straight up stole FFXIV's 1.0 opening cinematic and used it as their own).
    Actually copyright laws in china works the same like the rest of the world, but you can't make people follow it and also it is very costly to disprove that it is a copy with sufficient alterations. Enforcing copyright on 1.4 billions people is harder than to enforce it on say 40 million people. but lets say blizzard told tencent "hey look this company makes a copy of our games and it's going to hurt profitability, so we might give you less money" then tencent could hire lawyers and sue for copyright infringement on behalf of blizzard since they own a portion of blizzard. You can sue as a foreign company but the process will take longer because when you sue you better have proves ready otherwise they will just dismiss the case outright, but for court to reach a decision it won't take longer than 30 days. They will comply with the copyright laws, but if the company does not sue of course the chinese government won't care.
    There are many, many cases of copyright enforcement in China being very lax on violations against foreign companies - especially those without an active presence in China - and not so lax enforcement for violations against other Chinese IPs.

    There are even cases where the very same claim was ignored but got some life after Tencent bought the complainant's business... just ask Riot about that. 
    Tencent own 100% of Riot, what violation of IP are you talking about? the clones game tencent made is not until they bought riot. League legend is 2009 release, tencent clones of league is 2015 release but riot was purchased 2011. they already owned the IPs
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Iselin said:
    Albatroes said:
    yonpachi said:
    How could they get away with this?
    Its China. Copyright laws work differently there (aka they dont exist in China). Laws are only good if governments are willing to enforce them. The worst that will happen to the company behind this is that they just wont be able to have the game in other regions unless things are changed, just like that mobile game League of Angels had to do (they straight up stole FFXIV's 1.0 opening cinematic and used it as their own).
    Actually copyright laws in china works the same like the rest of the world, but you can't make people follow it and also it is very costly to disprove that it is a copy with sufficient alterations. Enforcing copyright on 1.4 billions people is harder than to enforce it on say 40 million people. but lets say blizzard told tencent "hey look this company makes a copy of our games and it's going to hurt profitability, so we might give you less money" then tencent could hire lawyers and sue for copyright infringement on behalf of blizzard since they own a portion of blizzard. You can sue as a foreign company but the process will take longer because when you sue you better have proves ready otherwise they will just dismiss the case outright, but for court to reach a decision it won't take longer than 30 days. They will comply with the copyright laws, but if the company does not sue of course the chinese government won't care.
    There are many, many cases of copyright enforcement in China being very lax on violations against foreign companies - especially those without an active presence in China - and not so lax enforcement for violations against other Chinese IPs.

    There are even cases where the very same claim was ignored but got some life after Tencent bought the complainant's business... just ask Riot about that. 
    Tencent own 100% of Riot, what violation of IP are you talking about? the clones game tencent made is not until they bought riot. League legend is 2009 release, tencent clones of league is 2015 release but riot was purchased 2011. they already owned the IPs
    Yeah I know the dates. I can't find the link for you. Maybe I'll look more later. It was a lawsuit started by RIOT before it was sold to Tencent that got thrown out by the Chinese courts that was then revived after Tencent bought Riot and was successful.
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  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 5,779
    Iselin said:
    Albatroes said:
    yonpachi said:
    How could they get away with this?
    Its China. Copyright laws work differently there (aka they dont exist in China). Laws are only good if governments are willing to enforce them. The worst that will happen to the company behind this is that they just wont be able to have the game in other regions unless things are changed, just like that mobile game League of Angels had to do (they straight up stole FFXIV's 1.0 opening cinematic and used it as their own).
    Actually copyright laws in china works the same like the rest of the world, but you can't make people follow it and also it is very costly to disprove that it is a copy with sufficient alterations. Enforcing copyright on 1.4 billions people is harder than to enforce it on say 40 million people. but lets say blizzard told tencent "hey look this company makes a copy of our games and it's going to hurt profitability, so we might give you less money" then tencent could hire lawyers and sue for copyright infringement on behalf of blizzard since they own a portion of blizzard. You can sue as a foreign company but the process will take longer because when you sue you better have proves ready otherwise they will just dismiss the case outright, but for court to reach a decision it won't take longer than 30 days. They will comply with the copyright laws, but if the company does not sue of course the chinese government won't care.
    There are many, many cases of copyright enforcement in China being very lax on violations against foreign companies - especially those without an active presence in China - and not so lax enforcement for violations against other Chinese IPs.

    There are even cases where the very same claim was ignored but got some life after Tencent bought the complainant's business... just ask Riot about that. 
    Tencent own 100% of Riot, what violation of IP are you talking about? the clones game tencent made is not until they bought riot. League legend is 2009 release, tencent clones of league is 2015 release but riot was purchased 2011. they already owned the IPs
    There are also way more clones that aren't Tencent operated from China. Look at Mobile Legends, they had a bunch of stolen assets from League and were sued by Tencent but are still operating with those assets. Or the countless PUBG clones or Pokemon clones with stolen assets on mobile. It's basically a free for all for them to steal assets and clone things. 
  • vegetableoilvegetableoil Member RarePosts: 768
    edited October 2019
    Iselin said:
    Albatroes said:
    yonpachi said:
    How could they get away with this?
    Its China. Copyright laws work differently there (aka they dont exist in China). Laws are only good if governments are willing to enforce them. The worst that will happen to the company behind this is that they just wont be able to have the game in other regions unless things are changed, just like that mobile game League of Angels had to do (they straight up stole FFXIV's 1.0 opening cinematic and used it as their own).
    Actually copyright laws in china works the same like the rest of the world, but you can't make people follow it and also it is very costly to disprove that it is a copy with sufficient alterations. Enforcing copyright on 1.4 billions people is harder than to enforce it on say 40 million people. but lets say blizzard told tencent "hey look this company makes a copy of our games and it's going to hurt profitability, so we might give you less money" then tencent could hire lawyers and sue for copyright infringement on behalf of blizzard since they own a portion of blizzard. You can sue as a foreign company but the process will take longer because when you sue you better have proves ready otherwise they will just dismiss the case outright, but for court to reach a decision it won't take longer than 30 days. They will comply with the copyright laws, but if the company does not sue of course the chinese government won't care.
    There are many, many cases of copyright enforcement in China being very lax on violations against foreign companies - especially those without an active presence in China - and not so lax enforcement for violations against other Chinese IPs.

    There are even cases where the very same claim was ignored but got some life after Tencent bought the complainant's business... just ask Riot about that. 
    Tencent own 100% of Riot, what violation of IP are you talking about? the clones game tencent made is not until they bought riot. League legend is 2009 release, tencent clones of league is 2015 release but riot was purchased 2011. they already owned the IPs
    There are also way more clones that aren't Tencent operated from China. Look at Mobile Legends, they had a bunch of stolen assets from League and were sued by Tencent but are still operating with those assets. Or the countless PUBG clones or Pokemon clones with stolen assets on mobile. It's basically a free for all for them to steal assets and clone things. 
    Riot Games has filed lawsuit against Moonton because of copyright infringement, citing similarities between Mobile Legends and Riot's League of Legends. In July 2018, a Chinese court awarded Tencent, Riot's parent company, US$2.90 million (RMB19.4 million) as a result after won the lawsuit against Moonton. 

    There cited from wiki, you have to sue! If you don't sue they will turn a blind eye. Btw pubg lawyer is an idiot, they sue netease in the states. any one who has deal with chinese companies know you have to sue in china, and don't bring american lawyer (they only understand american law not chinese law)
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