This reminds me of Kanye taking over a charity drive to rant about race. It's not your microphone. It's not your broadcast. You're the asshole if you take someone else's platform and use it for your own purposes without their permission.
What I want to know is where are all the people who are always trotting out "get woke, go broke" or calling others SJW when it's all about a political issue they don't like?
It sure sounds to me like the message to Blizzard is "Don't get woke, go broke" now that they're the SJWs. I hope this means you've finally outgrown your slogans now that you've finally found something to get outraged about.
See, the thing is that big corporations including movie and game studios always do and say shit that they think is best for their bottom line... always. Sometimes those things are political and sometimes they're painfully a-political, but it never validates nor invalidates the underlying politics. They're just PR assholes being PR assholes... always.
But the underlying issues are real.
The Chinese government does suck and they have sucked for 70 years and the Chinese people have suffered for it. Just the same as misogyny and racism suck and women and visible minorities have suffered for it.
Same shit of people in power being shitty to people without power. That's the reality behind the shallow "SJW" and "woke" hive mind slogans.
Sorry the difference here is that this is a right wing issue if anything, the lefties support socialism if not communism, so they not likely to be up in arms about anything china unless it's going to get them votes.
What I want to know is where are all the people who are always trotting out "get woke, go broke" or calling others SJW when it's all about a political issue they don't like?
It sure sounds to me like the message to Blizzard is "Don't get woke, go broke" now that they're the SJWs. I hope this means you've finally outgrown your slogans now that you've finally found something to get outraged about.
See, the thing is that big corporations including movie and game studios always do and say shit that they think is best for their bottom line... always. Sometimes those things are political and sometimes they're painfully a-political, but it never validates nor invalidates the underlying politics. They're just PR assholes being PR assholes... always.
But the underlying issues are real.
The Chinese government does suck and they have sucked for 70 years and the Chinese people have suffered for it. Just the same as misogyny and racism suck and women and visible minorities have suffered for it.
Same shit of people in power being shitty to people without power. That's the reality behind the shallow "SJW" and "woke" hive mind slogans.
Sorry the difference here is that this is a right wing issue if anything, the lefties support socialism if not communism, so they not likely to be up in arms about anything china unless it's going to get them votes.
Oh c'mon lets not go there. Everyone I know hates what is going on in china. Everyone in my inner circle leans left. I think the one thing both sides can agree on is that China is bad. This isn't us vs them
Ya your friends and average dems I can give the benefit of the doubt. Fairly sure though the upper ups on the left are playing directly into china's hand if not indirectly guided by the chinese or other outside nefarious nations - trying to destroy the US and it's economy from the inside with this socialism crap. Dems don't even try to hide it any more. Look at what is really in the green new deal - its more about socialism than it is climate change. They aren't just trying for Sweden style half ass socialism either - full on socialism not far behind Venezuela.
I would not vote for trump if there was someone else not pushing that crap.
Anyways no more politcal comments from me, here...
Ya your friends and average dems I can give the benefit of the doubt. Fairly sure though the upper ups on the left are playing directly into china's hand if not indirectly guided by the chinese or other outside nefarious nations - trying to destroy the US and it's economy from the inside with this socialism crap. Dems don't even try to hide it any more. Look at what is really in the green new deal - its more about socialism than it is climate change. They aren't just trying for Sweden style half ass socialism either - full on socialism not far behind Venezuela.
I would not vote for trump if there was someone else not pushing that crap.
Anyways no more politcal comments from me, here...
I think we can all agree that the majority from both sides support what the people of Hong Kong are fighting for.
That's pretty rare these days. Let's just leave it at that and not go on rants. I'm on your side, but she has a point.
@Arterius is too reasonable to be a lefty. Give her time, she'll switch teams.
Ya your friends and average dems I can give the benefit of the doubt. Fairly sure though the upper ups on the left are playing directly into china's hand if not indirectly guided by the chinese or other outside nefarious nations - trying to destroy the US and it's economy from the inside with this socialism crap. Dems don't even try to hide it any more. Look at what is really in the green new deal - its more about socialism than it is climate change. They aren't just trying for Sweden style half ass socialism either - full on socialism not far behind Venezuela.
I would not vote for trump if there was someone else not pushing that crap.
Anyways no more politcal comments from me, here...
I think we can all agree that the majority from both sides support what the people of Hong Kong are fighting for.
That's pretty rare these days. Let's just leave it at that and not go on rants. I'm on your side, but she has a point.
@Arterius is too reasonable to be a lefty. Give her time, she'll switch teams.
Whichever side you're on, the reason it seems like the people on the other side are completely crazy on nearly every contested issue is that the many issues that basically everyone agrees on are quickly settled and then aren't discussed much as political issues.
This isn't about politics, it's about another country using their financial influence (by way of their corporations) to silence any sentiments against their government IN OTHER COUNTRIES.
You can do the whole "RULES ARE RULES" thing, but if you're writing off the patterns as merely coincidence you're obtuse as hell.
The only people making this political are the mentally regressed who don't even know WTF to do with themselves because they're ideologically warped to where common sense is in opposition to their views.
Regardless of your political leanings, EXTERNAL INFLUENCE on YOUR COUNTRIES platforms is a BAD THING. It defeats the whole f#$%ing purpose of having a country in the first place. The only people who think that's OK are the ones who need to get Thanos snapped from existence.
Geez man.
"As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*"
There has been so much bad,negative happenings within blizzard i can't even remember them all. So i was going to remind of the original spy program on Wow,thought it was called Monarch but i researched and was called Warden. https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/10/blizzard_entert.html
I get around a lot,i visit a lot of streams,i read of lot of news and listen to a lot of devs or dev employees.My lsit of stories has surpassed my memory capacity,way too many sketchy ones to tell.
Do people remember just a year there was a leak that blizzard tried to copyright some program that tries to manipulate gamer's spending?
How about this...https://www.cnn.com/2013/12/09/tech/web/nsa-spying-video-games/index.html Blizzard claims they knew nothing of this.Well guess what so happens something similar was leaked about SOE many years ago.it seems Smedley sold gamer log information to some university for education purposes.Then later denied it...of course.
At this point,should ANYTHING be a surprise with Blizzard?I should make note that it is NOT only Blizzard,if you read the TOS ,ANY TOS,they are all doing sketchy things with your information.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I don't have a problem with China dropping the iron curtain on things within their country boundaries (I don't live there), but once they start trying to control narrative outside of their country that's where I draw the line on them and the corporations who are complicit.
Twitter is banned in China, they have their own social platform called "WA JU SAI" (kidding ) I honestly don't know why they're being so Mao Zedong with the reactions. The problem is, between the slave labor and all the money they've been investing all over the globe for ages they have everybody by the balls. That's why I laugh at so called trade wars with them.
Regardless, it's ironic that a communist country basically took over the world with honey not vinegar, while nationalism and divisiveness is getting preached in the land of the "free".
"As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*"
I don't have a problem with China dropping the iron curtain on things within their country boundaries (I don't live there), but once they start trying to control narrative outside of their country that's where I draw the line on them and the corporations who are complicit.
Twitter is banned in China, they have their own social platform called "WA JU SAI" (kidding ) I honestly don't know why they're being so Mao Zedong with the reactions. The problem is, between the slave labor and all the money they've been investing all over the globe for ages they have everybody by the balls. That's why I laugh at so called trade wars with them.
Regardless, it's ironic that a communist country basically took over the world with honey not vinegar, while nationalism and divisiveness is getting preached in the land of the "free".
China sounds like a good place to live. I'm sure you'd be welcomed.
I don't have a problem with China dropping the iron curtain on things within their country boundaries (I don't live there), but once they start trying to control narrative outside of their country that's where I draw the line on them and the corporations who are complicit.
Twitter is banned in China, they have their own social platform called "WA JU SAI" (kidding ) I honestly don't know why they're being so Mao Zedong with the reactions. The problem is, between the slave labor and all the money they've been investing all over the globe for ages they have everybody by the balls. That's why I laugh at so called trade wars with them.
Regardless, it's ironic that a communist country basically took over the world with honey not vinegar, while nationalism and divisiveness is getting preached in the land of the "free".
China sounds like a good place to live. I'm sure you'd be welcomed.
I wouldn't know, but I DO know of several "shitholes" that got their entire infrastructure improved via Chinese investment. If the day came where some military installations were needed a couple of hours outside of Florida...
"As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*"
I don't have a problem with China dropping the iron curtain on things within their country boundaries (I don't live there), but once they start trying to control narrative outside of their country that's where I draw the line on them and the corporations who are complicit.
Twitter is banned in China, they have their own social platform called "WA JU SAI" (kidding ) I honestly don't know why they're being so Mao Zedong with the reactions. The problem is, between the slave labor and all the money they've been investing all over the globe for ages they have everybody by the balls. That's why I laugh at so called trade wars with them.
Regardless, it's ironic that a communist country basically took over the world with honey not vinegar, while nationalism and divisiveness is getting preached in the land of the "free".
China sounds like a good place to live. I'm sure you'd be welcomed.
I wouldn't know, but I DO know of several "shitholes" that got their entire infrastructure improved via Chinese investment. If the day came where some military installations were needed a couple of hours outside of Florida...
This isn't about politics, it's about another country using their financial influence (by way of their corporations) to silence any sentiments against their government IN OTHER COUNTRIES.
You can do the whole "RULES ARE RULES" thing, but if you're writing off the patterns as merely coincidence you're obtuse as hell.
The only people making this political are the mentally regressed who don't even know WTF to do with themselves because they're ideologically warped to where common sense is in opposition to their views.
Regardless of your political leanings, EXTERNAL INFLUENCE on YOUR COUNTRIES platforms is a BAD THING. It defeats the whole f#$%ing purpose of having a country in the first place. The only people who think that's OK are the ones who need to get Thanos snapped from existence.
Geez man.
Yeah.. because that has never been done by anyone ever before..? Why we expect that China should act different to any other place when it comes to putting pressure on governments... I do not know. Heck financial pressure to "guide" is the bloody home field of the US after all.
No i do not agree with the totalitarian regime or outright xenophobia that China is selling. Yes i agree that the Hong Kong issue need more publicity. But let´s not pretend that what China is doing is something new or exclusive to them.
This isn't about politics, it's about another country using their financial influence (by way of their corporations) to silence any sentiments against their government IN OTHER COUNTRIES.
You can do the whole "RULES ARE RULES" thing, but if you're writing off the patterns as merely coincidence you're obtuse as hell.
The only people making this political are the mentally regressed who don't even know WTF to do with themselves because they're ideologically warped to where common sense is in opposition to their views.
Regardless of your political leanings, EXTERNAL INFLUENCE on YOUR COUNTRIES platforms is a BAD THING. It defeats the whole f#$%ing purpose of having a country in the first place. The only people who think that's OK are the ones who need to get Thanos snapped from existence.
Geez man.
Yeah.. because that has never been done by anyone ever before..? Why we expect that China should act different to any other place when it comes to putting pressure on governments... I do not know. Heck financial pressure to "guide" is the bloody home field of the US after all.
No i do not agree with the totalitarian regime or outright xenophobia that China is selling. Yes i agree that the Hong Kong issue need more publicity. But let´s not pretend that what China is doing is something new or exclusive to them.
True enought, reminds me a lot of Greece and the EU.
This isn't about politics, it's about another country using their financial influence (by way of their corporations) to silence any sentiments against their government IN OTHER COUNTRIES.
You can do the whole "RULES ARE RULES" thing, but if you're writing off the patterns as merely coincidence you're obtuse as hell.
The only people making this political are the mentally regressed who don't even know WTF to do with themselves because they're ideologically warped to where common sense is in opposition to their views.
Regardless of your political leanings, EXTERNAL INFLUENCE on YOUR COUNTRIES platforms is a BAD THING. It defeats the whole f#$%ing purpose of having a country in the first place. The only people who think that's OK are the ones who need to get Thanos snapped from existence.
Geez man.
Yeah.. because that has never been done by anyone ever before..? Why we expect that China should act different to any other place when it comes to putting pressure on governments... I do not know. Heck financial pressure to "guide" is the bloody home field of the US after all.
No i do not agree with the totalitarian regime or outright xenophobia that China is selling. Yes i agree that the Hong Kong issue need more publicity. But let´s not pretend that what China is doing is something new or exclusive to them.
First, why is your tone insinuating that I think China is the first country to put pressure on other governments?
Lastly, Blizzard, Riot Games, The NBA, originate from where again? In recent history what country has put their foot on American corporations necks to control narrati... wait a minute...
"As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*"
This isn't about politics, it's about another country using their financial influence (by way of their corporations) to silence any sentiments against their government IN OTHER COUNTRIES.
You can do the whole "RULES ARE RULES" thing, but if you're writing off the patterns as merely coincidence you're obtuse as hell.
The only people making this political are the mentally regressed who don't even know WTF to do with themselves because they're ideologically warped to where common sense is in opposition to their views.
Regardless of your political leanings, EXTERNAL INFLUENCE on YOUR COUNTRIES platforms is a BAD THING. It defeats the whole f#$%ing purpose of having a country in the first place. The only people who think that's OK are the ones who need to get Thanos snapped from existence.
Geez man.
Yeah.. because that has never been done by anyone ever before..? Why we expect that China should act different to any other place when it comes to putting pressure on governments... I do not know. Heck financial pressure to "guide" is the bloody home field of the US after all.
No i do not agree with the totalitarian regime or outright xenophobia that China is selling. Yes i agree that the Hong Kong issue need more publicity. But let´s not pretend that what China is doing is something new or exclusive to them.
First, why is your tone insinuating that I think China is the first country to put pressure on other governments?
Lastly, Blizzard, Riot Games, The NBA, originate from where again? In recent history what country has put their foot on American corporations necks to control narrati... wait a minute...
This isn't about politics, it's about another country using their financial influence (by way of their corporations) to silence any sentiments against their government IN OTHER COUNTRIES.
You can do the whole "RULES ARE RULES" thing, but if you're writing off the patterns as merely coincidence you're obtuse as hell.
The only people making this political are the mentally regressed who don't even know WTF to do with themselves because they're ideologically warped to where common sense is in opposition to their views.
Regardless of your political leanings, EXTERNAL INFLUENCE on YOUR COUNTRIES platforms is a BAD THING. It defeats the whole f#$%ing purpose of having a country in the first place. The only people who think that's OK are the ones who need to get Thanos snapped from existence.
Geez man.
Yeah.. because that has never been done by anyone ever before..? Why we expect that China should act different to any other place when it comes to putting pressure on governments... I do not know. Heck financial pressure to "guide" is the bloody home field of the US after all.
No i do not agree with the totalitarian regime or outright xenophobia that China is selling. Yes i agree that the Hong Kong issue need more publicity. But let´s not pretend that what China is doing is something new or exclusive to them.
First, why is your tone insinuating that I think China is the first country to put pressure on other governments?
Lastly, Blizzard, Riot Games, The NBA, originate from where again? In recent history what country has put their foot on American corporations necks to control narrati... wait a minute...
Well... Shall we list the times the US has levied financial restrictions against others as a way to force co-operations...? Anyway why is insinuated that this was news to you is because the language you use indicates that this is something scandalous and uncommon.
I´d guess you are pissed because it is the US that is on the other side of the fence this time...
The rest of the world are pretty used to this type of tactics... mostly from the US.
Maybe they did not want comment on that staff article because they knew they would get this? Four pages and counting of insightful comment and constructive discourse? For example how come I did not know that issues about Chinese investment could be summed up be a clip of a man wriggling his shoulders?
what a joke. The whole world is an abusive gangster run operation and to figure this out for yourself you just need to say the right words.
everything has owners now who are sensitive to the truth. The enemy is everywhere not just in china. At least in video games you can see the enemy. In this game of life even you might be the enemy of you. That's how crazy it all is.
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I would not vote for trump if there was someone else not pushing that crap.
Anyways no more politcal comments from me, here...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That's pretty rare these days. Let's just leave it at that and not go on rants. I'm on your side, but she has a point.
@Arterius is too reasonable to be a lefty. Give her time, she'll switch teams.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Blizzard/comments/dgodfz/we_wont_allow_any_talk_of_social_justice_or/
You can do the whole "RULES ARE RULES" thing, but if you're writing off the patterns as merely coincidence you're obtuse as hell.
The only people making this political are the mentally regressed who don't even know WTF to do with themselves because they're ideologically warped to where common sense is in opposition to their views.
Regardless of your political leanings, EXTERNAL INFLUENCE on YOUR COUNTRIES platforms is a BAD THING. It defeats the whole f#$%ing purpose of having a country in the first place. The only people who think that's OK are the ones who need to get Thanos snapped from existence.
Geez man.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
...Yes, it was one of those threads.
All this time, I was thinking to myself, "Hmm, she's taking that comment pretty well, good for her." lol
So i was going to remind of the original spy program on Wow,thought it was called Monarch but i researched and was called Warden.
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/10/blizzard_entert.html
I get around a lot,i visit a lot of streams,i read of lot of news and listen to a lot of devs or dev employees.My lsit of stories has surpassed my memory capacity,way too many sketchy ones to tell.
Do people remember just a year there was a leak that blizzard tried to copyright some program that tries to manipulate gamer's spending?
How about this...https://www.cnn.com/2013/12/09/tech/web/nsa-spying-video-games/index.html
Blizzard claims they knew nothing of this.Well guess what so happens something similar was leaked about SOE many years ago.it seems Smedley sold gamer log information to some university for education purposes.Then later denied it...of course.
Anyhow here is one of the latest....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BPcuEKOODE
At this point,should ANYTHING be a surprise with Blizzard?I should make note that it is NOT only Blizzard,if you read the TOS ,ANY TOS,they are all doing sketchy things with your information.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
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Twitter is banned in China, they have their own social platform called "WA JU SAI" (kidding
Regardless, it's ironic that a communist country basically took over the world with honey not vinegar, while nationalism and divisiveness is getting preached in the land of the "free".
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No i do not agree with the totalitarian regime or outright xenophobia that China is selling. Yes i agree that the Hong Kong issue need more publicity. But let´s not pretend that what China is doing is something new or exclusive to them.
This have been a good conversation
Lastly, Blizzard, Riot Games, The NBA, originate from where again? In recent history what country has put their foot on American corporations necks to control narrati... wait a minute...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I´d guess you are pissed because it is the US that is on the other side of the fence this time...
The rest of the world are pretty used to this type of tactics... mostly from the US.
This have been a good conversation
everything has owners now who are sensitive to the truth. The enemy is everywhere not just in china. At least in video games you can see the enemy. In this game of life even you might be the enemy of you. That's how crazy it all is.
stick to playing games.