Originally posted by Angelbound What is Daoc I weas playing console and eq1 around then, and to me nothing is yet better then eq1 not even eq2.
DAoC = Dark Age of Camelot, good game with very good pvp (rvr) system, sieges and stuff like that. It's quite old (2001) but lately they updated most graphics.
my idea is so good its gonna make you wanna light your hair on fire and punch yourself in the face....
ready???
Grand theft auto mmorpg
there could be 2 factions, law and criminals different gangs for criminal side, fbi, police, dea for law side you could have professions like prostitution, drug making, bounty hunter etc etc
imho I think Startrek Online will be HUGE, either that or WarHammer online considering Blizzard stole a shitload of there stuff in the past it will be fun to see if games workshop can compete, I hope the master wins
(there was indeed a courtcase settled between blizzard and gamesworkshop due to blizzard taking there ideas)
Possibly Warhammer, depending on the timing, hype, reviews etc If it comes out at the right time and everything looks good then people will swap over, and it's a growing market.
Originally posted by Valant6 Vanguard: SOH, absolutely. Indeed, they have the best developer team in the business due to their experience and individual talents. Alot of people comment on Vanguard (and a lot of other games for that matter) while being very UN-educated about the titles theyre slamming. I suggest to anyone that has doubts about Vanguard: Go read the F.A.Q. and their philosophies on MMO's. Then take a trip to the media section of their site and look at the screenshots. The read up on the world of Telon, the races, the classes, as well as the size of the gameworld and the different continents that all have varying themes (European, Arabian, Asian), then come back and tell us what you think. Yes! V:SoH ftw!
Originally posted by chaintm Huxley, Vanguard, Age of Conan, ST Online all have been mentioned multiple times on this thread. But to be honest, in the years of watching the industry, Each of these titles will get a following but I doubt any of them will hold a player base that is concidered to be large. Huxley- looks awsome, sounds great but in the end is a FFS online, while PS did well, it didn't break any records.
Vanguard- biggest complaints in todays MMO's are finding themselves in this title, sure read the FAQ, it reaks of EQ being some of the devs are the founding members, People want new and inovative, not new and revamped.
Age Of Conan - Concept awsome but theme? I think in the end the Theme will kill this game...
...
Last, LOTR I think will bust, there are fans of the movies but there is no true historical fan base as you find in startrek , starwars etc. This game has nothing inovative and it's relying purly on the license to make it float. ...
Bah, you hardly like anything I think there are a lot of people who are looking forward to V:SoH. Yeah, I can agree with you that it probably won't dethrone the wonder that is WoW. However, if you exclude WoW's unprecedented numbers, what is considered a large player base? I think V:SoH can pull good numbers.
As for the complaints you mentioned...I'm not sure specifically what you're referring to, but i suggest anyone who wants to really see what is going on go ahead and check it out for themselves omg! . Silky has a great site up with lots of l33t infoz. If you do, you can see that V:SoH isn't just a graphics update of EQ. Yes, it is High Fantasy, and yes, big bad Brad is involved But this is a diff world with diff lore and fun new ideas!
Of course, if you consider anything of the fantasy genre a rehash then...
Originally posted by rmazin Vanguard: Saga of Heros for one reason. It will be shipping with copies of Windows Vista. Hmm...I hadn't heard that. Was this idea based on Sigil's earlier arrangement with Microsoft? If so, you might want to check out this: http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51405
Originally posted by djpearce Vanguard will not be a huge hit, it is catering to a specific market not to the mass market. It will be too time intensive and too difficult to solo for your average player.
Well, if by specific market you mean gamers who like a challenge...then I guess you're right. If, however, you are referring to the misconception that V:SoH is appealing to only 'hardcore' gamers, then I have to disagree with you.
Originally posted by Ammon777 In my opinion, Vanguard will NOT be a big thing. It is catering to EQ-nostalgists, not to any other player sector. Corpse runs (again?), along with difficult gameplay and steep grinding... plus very limited soloing capability... will turn away most WoW players. Everquest fans will have a hay-day, though. Let me point out that soloing is a viable game style and to ignore it is a mistake; I sometimes group up with others, but usually with guildmates or when I happen to want to go into an instance. I predict that Vanguard beta will be extremely populated, and that about 200k players will buy the game, but it will not dethrone World of Warcraft, not even close, nor will it be the big next MMO.
Making someone go on a CR is not hardcore imo I played EQ (Its not a crime, really) on RZ server and did tons of CRs and I have never considered myself a 'hardcore' gamer. Although, I can understand why some are hearing CR and getting this impression of V:SoH. /poke WoW /poke EQ2
I'd also like to comment on soloing. Where is this misinformation coming from There is solo content. There is solo content! I urge everyone to take a peek at the FAQ before making any final decisions.
Originally posted by Tyzen Next huge hype game will be RFonline. The game in Korea/Jp is super crazy hyped over there and when they hit the states in October...people will leave thier current mmorpgs. Just my opinion and not a fact.
I completely disagree with that, I dont even think the games that good.If any, Aion might be goood, but thats not for a while.If anything I say Warhammer.
Originally posted by boognish75 i have heard multiple rumors of earth and beyond2 , i am an ecstatic fan of the origonal and currently in swg, if anyone can confirm this i would love to hear.
Why on earth would they make a sequal of a game that failed as an original?
Originally posted by ValiumSummer Originally posted by boognish75i have heard multiple rumors of earth and beyond2 , i am an ecstatic fan of the origonal and currently in swg, if anyone can confirm this i would love to hear. Why on earth would they make a sequal of a game that failed as an original?
it didn't fail, they pulled the plug because they hit under 10k subscribers, which is rediculous.
Frankly, ENB has a huge fanbase, and would make a great sequel (or even just a release with more worlds, etc).
Lots of people liked it, the company was just moronic and thought 10k was a bad number... look at how flooded the market is and empty the smaller games are now. What a bad move on their part for pulling it
I really hope something good comes out soon, I was sooo disappointed when SWG was ruined beyond the hope of ever fixing it again. I just can't stand WoW with it's cartoony cutie little gnomes (and the gnomes are by far the best dancers!) and I am to afraid to try DnL with all the bad feedback I have been hearing. I guess it's back to UO for me, for a little while I guess .... and so I wait and wait and wait for the next "big" thing to sweep me off my feet!
JA, well the thing is im new to all the online RPG's just wanted to ask you Guys if you know any really good ones besides WoW. What do you think of the new up coming Warhammer RPG.
In the next 6 months - 2 years nothing will beat WoW just my suggestion. I'm not playing WoW. Bilzzard is also moving like the other companies so they are always one step ahead (thinking of their start in hispanic area, expansion ect.).
A large crowd of people can only very slowly be motivised to move to some other games.
Ok I read some more on these other games and suggestions. RFonline will only do as good as FFXI did with american gamers. Remember WOW appeals to everyone from hardcore gamer to casual. Its hard to make that mesh work.
The revolution is coming and the start of it is Huxley. MMORPG's will be left in the dust when things like QUAKE online or BF2 online become availible. The game will actually be about skill and it will have that PVP aspect as well as real time missions. Honestly MMOFPS is becoming a reality. Right now local phone companies are builidng out fiber connections to the premise. What does that mean to you. Well your internet connection will be alot faster and non dependent on distance form the CO (central office). I currently have it and pay 29.99 for 15 meg connection. This takes away from the lag issue in these massive worlds that prevent FPS from making it a reality. Huxley is startign this next gen off and replacing the planetside/wwII online games of the past. It is truly exciting to see where this industry is going. You know it going to happen because now in the current MMO's PVP is huge. That's what everyone wants. Unfortunately now that lvl 60 can crack my head open at level lv 10. Heed(sp) my words though, the tables are going to turn, and it will probably be in the next two years. Then that lvl 60 will get sniped from the hill over yonder with a one shot kill HEHEHE sweet revenge.
For now though warhammer will take the cake since it is a real war enviroment with server vs server. It looks alot like wow and the only thing hurting WOW is that there hasn;t been an expansion in 2 years. I played wow for 2 years and just went to EQ2 because I wanted to explore somethign new. For now that's where I will stay till the fall releases of the new and exciting games. Maybe WOW will bring me back with something new I still have 3 lvl 60 toons there.
im really lookin forward to priston tale 2 and Ragnarok online 2. WAR looks good and all but the theme seem to hav been done already, human orc elf theme in a RvR already been done in DaOC. repitetion can only last for so long you know. well thatjust my opinion, im sure WAR would do fine in the US with all the die hard RvR fan out there.
I would vote for The Chronicles of Spellborn or maybe lotro, TCoS looks very promising and 'casual' enough to have fun with it (no grinding and stuff). I hope they will fullfill their promises.
But to think TCoS will kill WoW? Mwah... they don't got the money actually to have big advertisments.
LoTRO though got the advertisment and the name... it could be possible for LotRO to kill WoW
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What is Daoc I weas playing console and eq1 around then, and to me nothing is yet better then eq1 not even eq2.
Geewhiz 27 Rogue EQ
Gollywhiz FFXI HUM/SUM/NIN Carb
hihi SOON TO BE LOA!!!
ready???
Grand theft auto mmorpg
there could be 2 factions, law and criminals
different gangs for criminal side, fbi, police, dea for law side
you could have professions like prostitution, drug making, bounty hunter etc etc
rockstar send me my check
those guys sure know how to make some good quality games ( altho i dont appeal to the sci-fi theme)
i will try this one for real!
other then that: vanguard, chronicles of spellborn and Gods and heroes make a good shot at the next best thing
imho I think Startrek Online will be HUGE, either that or WarHammer online considering Blizzard stole a shitload of there stuff in the past it will be fun to see if games workshop can compete, I hope the master wins
(there was indeed a courtcase settled between blizzard and gamesworkshop due to blizzard taking there ideas)
World of Starcraft
Seriously, I dont see anything topping WoW in suscriber numbers especially with movie coming out.
Vanguard: SOH, absolutely.
Indeed, they have the best developer team in the business due to
their experience and individual talents. Alot of people comment on
Vanguard (and a lot of other games for that matter) while being very
UN-educated about the titles theyre slamming.
I suggest to anyone that has doubts about Vanguard: Go read the
F.A.Q. and their philosophies on MMO's. Then take a trip to the media
section of their site and look at the screenshots. The read up on the
world of Telon, the races, the classes, as well as the size of the
gameworld and the different continents that all have varying themes
(European, Arabian, Asian), then come back and tell us what you think.
Yes! V:SoH ftw!
Originally posted by chaintm
Huxley, Vanguard, Age of Conan, ST Online all have been
mentioned multiple times on this thread. But to be honest, in the years
of watching the industry, Each of these titles will get a following but
I doubt any of them will hold a player base that is concidered to be
large.
Huxley- looks awsome, sounds great but in the end is a FFS online, while PS did well, it didn't break any records.
Vanguard- biggest complaints in todays MMO's are finding themselves
in this title, sure read the FAQ, it reaks of EQ being some of the devs
are the founding members, People want new and inovative, not new and
revamped.
Age Of Conan - Concept awsome but theme? I think in the end the Theme will kill this game...
...Last, LOTR I think will bust, there are fans of the movies but there
is no true historical fan base as you find in startrek , starwars etc.
This game has nothing inovative and it's relying purly on the license
to make it float. ...
Bah, you hardly like anything
As for the complaints you mentioned...I'm not sure specifically what you're referring to, but i suggest anyone who wants to really see what is going on go ahead and check it out for themselves omg! . Silky has a great site up with lots of l33t infoz.
If you do, you can see that V:SoH isn't just a graphics update of EQ. Yes, it is High Fantasy, and yes, big bad Brad is involved
Of course, if you consider anything of the fantasy genre a rehash then...
Originally posted by rmazin
Vanguard: Saga of Heros for one reason. It will be shipping with copies of Windows Vista.
Hmm...I hadn't heard that. Was this idea based on Sigil's earlier arrangement with Microsoft? If so, you might want to check out this: http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51405
Originally posted by djpearce
Vanguard will not be a huge hit, it is catering to a specific
market not to the mass market. It will be too time intensive and too
difficult to solo for your average player.
Well, if by specific market you mean gamers who like a challenge...then I guess you're right. If, however, you are referring to the misconception that V:SoH is appealing to only 'hardcore' gamers, then I have to disagree with you.
Originally posted by Ammon777
In my opinion, Vanguard will NOT be a big thing. It is catering to
EQ-nostalgists, not to any other player sector. Corpse runs (again?),
along with difficult gameplay and steep grinding... plus very limited
soloing capability... will turn away most WoW players. Everquest fans
will have a hay-day, though. Let me point out that soloing is a viable
game style and to ignore it is a mistake; I sometimes group up with
others, but usually with guildmates or when I happen to want to go into
an instance. I predict that Vanguard beta will be extremely populated,
and that about 200k players will buy the game, but it will not dethrone
World of Warcraft, not even close, nor will it be the big next MMO.
Making someone go on a CR is not hardcore imo
CRs and I have never considered myself a 'hardcore' gamer. Although, I
can understand why some are hearing CR and getting this impression of
V:SoH. /poke WoW /poke EQ2
I'd also like to comment on soloing. Where is this misinformation coming from
As for the other comments, see above responses
/rant off
/equips l33t fire resist gear +999
In california you can always find a party,
In Soviet Russia the party can always find you
it didn't fail, they pulled the plug because they hit under 10k subscribers, which is rediculous.
Frankly, ENB has a huge fanbase, and would make a great sequel (or even just a release with more worlds, etc).
Lots of people liked it, the company was just moronic and thought 10k was a bad number... look at how flooded the market is and empty the smaller games are now. What a bad move on their part for pulling it
I really hope something good comes out soon, I was sooo disappointed when SWG was ruined beyond the hope of ever fixing it again. I just can't stand WoW with it's cartoony cutie little gnomes (and the gnomes are by far the best dancers!) and I am to afraid to try DnL with all the bad feedback I have been hearing. I guess it's back to UO for me, for a little while I guess .... and so I wait and wait and wait for the next "big" thing to sweep me off my feet!
JA, well the thing is im new to all the online RPG's just wanted to ask you Guys if you know any really good ones besides WoW. What do you think of the new up coming Warhammer RPG.
In the next 6 months - 2 years nothing will beat WoW just my suggestion. I'm not playing WoW. Bilzzard is also moving like the other companies so they are always one step ahead (thinking of their start in hispanic area, expansion ect.).
A large crowd of people can only very slowly be motivised to move to some other games.
Ok I read some more on these other games and suggestions. RFonline will only do as good as FFXI did with american gamers. Remember WOW appeals to everyone from hardcore gamer to casual. Its hard to make that mesh work.
The revolution is coming and the start of it is Huxley. MMORPG's will be left in the dust when things like QUAKE online or BF2 online become availible. The game will actually be about skill and it will have that PVP aspect as well as real time missions. Honestly MMOFPS is becoming a reality. Right now local phone companies are builidng out fiber connections to the premise. What does that mean to you. Well your internet connection will be alot faster and non dependent on distance form the CO (central office). I currently have it and pay 29.99 for 15 meg connection. This takes away from the lag issue in these massive worlds that prevent FPS from making it a reality. Huxley is startign this next gen off and replacing the planetside/wwII online games of the past. It is truly exciting to see where this industry is going. You know it going to happen because now in the current MMO's PVP is huge. That's what everyone wants. Unfortunately now that lvl 60 can crack my head open at level lv 10. Heed(sp) my words though, the tables are going to turn, and it will probably be in the next two years. Then that lvl 60 will get sniped from the hill over yonder with a one shot kill HEHEHE sweet revenge.
For now though warhammer will take the cake since it is a real war enviroment with server vs server. It looks alot like wow and the only thing hurting WOW is that there hasn;t been an expansion in 2 years. I played wow for 2 years and just went to EQ2 because I wanted to explore somethign new. For now that's where I will stay till the fall releases of the new and exciting games. Maybe WOW will bring me back with something new I still have 3 lvl 60 toons there.
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But to think TCoS will kill WoW? Mwah... they don't got the money actually to have big advertisments.
LoTRO though got the advertisment and the name... it could be possible for LotRO to kill WoW
who knew