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Ashes of Creation Dev Discussion Wants to Know Moments in MMORPGs Which Broke Your Immersion

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edited September 2020 in News & Features Discussion

imageAshes of Creation Dev Discussion Wants to Know Moments in MMORPGs Which Broke Your Immersion

The latest Ashes of Creation dev discussion is here and wants your input on immersion breakers.

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  • vegetableoilvegetableoil Member RarePosts: 768
    When you use voice chat and suddenly you hear a baby cry for 10 min straight.
    LeFantomeYashaX[Deleted User]
  • ChaserzChaserz Member RarePosts: 336


    When you use voice chat and suddenly you hear a baby cry for 10 min straight.



    Using voice chat.
    SovrathBrotherMaynardMcSleazYashaXsakerWaanKyleran
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,061
    edited September 2020
    Look, I'm a simple man with simple wants. Just leave out obviously stupid skins. No Santa and Easter Bunny suits. No rainbow unicorn bows. No disco ball maces. It should be obvious when an item just blatantly doesn't belong in your setting, much less as an armor or weapon.

    And also, yes. No built in, non-consensual voice chat. Nothing takes me out of it faster than hearing some randos voice.
    ValdheimSovrathXatshGreatnessYashaXNeanderthalbamwallasakerDarkagesWaanand 2 others.
  • mcrippinsmcrippins Member RarePosts: 1,642
    For me only 2 things come to mind - seeing an annoying cash shop button, or when I realize a game has auto-pathing, where you click a key, and it walks you to where you have to go.
    ValdheimLeFantomeYashaXsakerWaanAgeniKyleran
  • ValdheimValdheim Member RarePosts: 711
    Every holiday event or other IRL linked events, inappropriate skins or mounts, UI built in cash shop button and gamble equipment enhancement system like the ones used in Black Desert, Blade & Soul etc.

    mcrippinsacidblood[Deleted User]sakerKyleran
  • BrotherMaynardBrotherMaynard Member RarePosts: 647
    edited September 2020
    Aeander said:
    Look, I'm a simple man with simple wants. Just leave out obviously stupid skins. No Santa and Easter Bunny suits.

    But what about my alluring sexy dances on the main square mailbox?

    Signed

    err... Santa

    Kyleran
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    When goobbues and t-rexes started to fly in FFXIV.
  • WellspringWellspring Member EpicPosts: 1,464
    When you crowdfund an MMORPG and they decide to build a battle royale game instead. Ruins my immersion every time!
    SensaiIudiciumYashaXKyleran
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  • MartianderMartiander Member UncommonPosts: 9
    Too modern looking UI ( In case of a Fantasy World )
    Im not a Combat Pilot .. im a Knight. I dont wanna see Overlays all over the place that look total
    High tech. Same for the other UI Elements. Absolut turn off in BDO.
    I couldnt bear it...

    Strange Outfits and Mounts i agree…
    I dont wanna see Elvis popping up and an Rainbow Unicorn comming around the corner

    Missing wandering NPC. Damm for the Love of god, noone stays around the same place like a statues for Months. Let them move a few steps. Even better if they are at total different Positions as the day Progress.

    That Counts for NPC's in Cities and out at some encampment or small settlement. Heck even Monsters, noone stays in one position forever.

    Also.. i really dont like he fact that you get the same "Trivial" loot regardless how the critter said goodbye to the world.
    It would be great if you get "Bone Chips" from critters that you Smash, "half a Bone" if cut and surely no Pelts when you use a Slash weapon on them.

    Also too many Pop up Messages.. God i dont Need 2 or 3 GIANT sized Pop ups whenever something MIGHT come up that warrants a help window ..


    theres more .. but well this are the majors


    ShutaraValdheim
  • McSleazMcSleaz Member RarePosts: 280
    Anything Anime.
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    Somersaults,any type of marker on the screen be it over npc heads or distance/directional markers.Auto game play of any kind,over sized weapons.

    Experience given for doing quests,your character should not be more experienced at their role just because they did some fetch me quest.Your character role should be tied into your skills and those should be used to get better at them.Pretty simple concept really,if your mom sent you to the store to get a loaf of bread would you then become a better Warrior?

    Enemies should only drop loot they are using and especially not drop something stupid like mounts and pets unless of course they happen to be using that at the given time.

    I don't want to see players jumping in the air 20 feet or zooming in from 20 feet out.

    Objects that stand out like a sore thumb.Example is i shouldn't look at something and think it looks placed or not a natural part of the world,example nodes should look natural and not have glowing lights.On that same subject i can't stand seeing glowing lights coming off loot either.

    Phased in content or instances,i want the world to at least look persistent.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • XatshXatsh Member RarePosts: 451
    My main thing is items added need to fit into the game world.

    No lolly pop maces, no candy houses, no popsicle axes and stupid crap like that.

    Cash shop button should not be in game. Should be on the website only with no advertisements in game at all for cashshop stuff. And absolutely no auto play features.

    I am also not a fan of out of place mounts and armor. Not a fan of a tank wearing a bikini and sunglasses to a dragon fight or a flying mount that has no business flying. Everything added including cashshop stuff should be fitting to the game.
    [Deleted User]saker
  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    It's like trying to isolate which, from among a thousand fireflies on a summer night, is the brightest. My immersion is under constant attack both from within the game and without. From NPCs with glowing punctuation floating over their heads, to my wife asking about some chore I promised to do. It is very hard to hang on to my suspension of disbelief. But if I absolutely must pick one, I would say daily quests - fighting the same mobs for the same reasons and rewards again and again and again.
    [Deleted User]Kyleran

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    In-game cash shops and all the things like log-in ads (ESO and others), broadcast messages about who just got which epic reward from a loot box (Neverwinter) designed to take you there.
    YashaXKyleran
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  • emperorhades1emperorhades1 Member RarePosts: 421
    Combat ladies and gentleman. Slash, swoosh, ping, whirl, blast blast. POW. Looks like a damn cartoon not an experience. I can see stupid effects in an arcade case.
  • acidbloodacidblood Member RarePosts: 878
    edited September 2020
    When combat boils down to avoid the large red circles... telegraphs are fine, but make an appropriate animation, and don't overuse them.

    When a quest / NPC tells me something is going to be difficult and it's a faceroll... I know most MMOs use vertical progression, but enemies within your level range should at least present some challenge / danger.

    When gear becomes +1, +2, +3, etc. ... High level gear especially should present a variety of options, come from a variety of sources, and allow a variety of builds with different strengths and weaknesses.
    Valdheim
  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,054
    In game loading screens
    In your face UI
    Corpse inappropriate loot
    Rigid crafting
    Level scaling
    Glued to the ground NPCs
    Enemies spawning from thin air
    Static environments without weather, wildlife and day and night cycles

    I could go on.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
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    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...



    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • BlackAdder77BlackAdder77 Member UncommonPosts: 40
    My mom coming up telling me to clean my room.
    [Deleted User]SensaiUngoodKyleranYashaX
  • NeanderthalNeanderthal Member RarePosts: 1,861
    My mom coming up telling me to clean my room.

    Well come on man, you're 40 years old.  She shouldn't have to tell you anymore.






    just kidding
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  • bamwallabamwalla Member UncommonPosts: 221
    Most of this has been said but I feel some of these things are important enough to reiterate.

    No mounts/costumes/skins that don't fit with the world. No santa hats and no steampunk cars, unless it's a santa world or a steampunk game.

    No links in my UI that sends me to the web/premium shop.

    autopathing. no thank you, octopus.

    Music that doesn't fit the world

    Inventory is a whole animal in itself. No, I shouldn't be able to carry 100 stone blocks in my pack, but is it realistic i can swing a hammer 6 times and get a perfect stone block out of a quarry? But at the same time I don't want to play Inventory Tycoon all day either, that's hurts more than realistic burden values.

    If you look at the history of mining and logging and such, you see it took a lot of expendable men and a lot of mechanical advantage to get things done. A lot of horse power, whether from horses or not, is needed. That's not realistic either. I can't be expected to team up with others just to get some bags of coal or iron. I don't have an army if immigrants looking for a new life in a new land. I have a backpack, and hopefully a mule or a cart or both.

    Meaningless and/or repetitive quests. This is a biggie. It shows me, right away, whether my time is valuable to this game or not.

    Meaningless and/or absurd loot. Why did this saber-toothed vampire cow drop a chipped ruby and a studded leather epaulette?
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  • sakersaker Member RarePosts: 1,458
    everyone above had the basics down. In general for me the insanely oversized weapons that are common in MMO's, and of course along the same vein the ridiculous armor that would never work like the giant stuff for males, the little bikini thong stuff for women. Didn't see mentioned above but environmental invisible walls drive me nuts, and inclines that aren't steep but you can't somehow go up... no those are just so bad.
  • asmalsaadiasmalsaadi Member UncommonPosts: 3
    I hate to see gambling system where every time some one lucky will get all the nice/rare loot. It shouldn’t be based on luck. It should be based on effort/skills maybe effort to help others.
  • ShaighShaigh Member EpicPosts: 2,150
    I can tolerate a lot of nonsense in mmorpg since gaming is not reality and as long as the game is fun to play stupid things don't bother me but when it stops being fun everything bothers me and immersion breaks.
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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    edited September 2020
    There is also more than one kind of immersion.

    There is immersion in the sense of your attention remaining focused in the game world, versus the real world, because the game world is sufficiently engaging, be it realistic or not.

    And there is immersion in terms of whether you feel you are experiencing the game world as your character; e.g., are you a wizard, or just a generic avatar?

    And there is immersion in terms of how realistic the world and your character in it are. By realism I mean is it what it was intended to be?

    Some things break one type of immersion but not another.



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  • QSatuQSatu Member UncommonPosts: 1,796
    Recently I left FF14 becouse of how unimmersive I found the game.

    Mounts, clothes and UI were the biggest offenders. In  your face UI (do I really need giant You accepted a Quest text after accepting it?). Mounts which look out of place all the time. Everything done in the name of cuteness.
     When I went to check out housing I found a medieval japanese castle standing right next to a modern looking house. Everything in that game felt out of place.

    The moment developers start puting things into a game just for a fan service's sake it's the end for me.

    On the other hand good weather effects (mist after a rain or in the morning) are a very good features.
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