At this point, why even call it an alpha? The fanboys are playing and enjoying as if its a full game anyways.
Basically clicking away text windows ruins every MMO, try to have fun instead of rushing things. Without story and lore all there is left is a bunch of mechanics. Reply Add Multi-Quote
At this point, why even call it an alpha? The fanboys are playing and enjoying as if its a full game anyways.
Can you imagine the drama and controversy if the fans tried to call it a full game?
Joe Blabbers will tell you it's a full game that just needs tweaking. If you disagree with him he'll call you a naysayer and add you to his Hit List https://sctrollsdump.wordpress.com/manze/
At this point, why even call it an alpha? The fanboys are playing and enjoying as if its a full game anyways.
Can you imagine the drama and controversy if the fans tried to call it a full game?
Joe Blabbers will tell you it's a full game that just needs tweaking. If you disagree with him he'll call you a naysayer and add you to his Hit List https://sctrollsdump.wordpress.com/manze/
They literally have a wall of shame website.
As amusing as it is, "YoMomma" is on it as well. And my mother always said video games are a waste of time ... little did I know.
Curious about the cloud city though. For all my criticisms, their locations have always been top notch. I'll definitely have a look.
At this point, why even call it an alpha? The fanboys are playing and enjoying as if its a full game anyways.
Can you imagine the drama and controversy if the fans tried to call it a full game?
Joe Blabbers will tell you it's a full game that just needs tweaking. If you disagree with him he'll call you a naysayer and add you to his Hit List https://sctrollsdump.wordpress.com/manze/
lol, Dude should really consider taking that down and burning it as he is literally opening himself up to some serious libel issues depending on who and what state/country him or the pursuant may be in.
Even if it was a hard to win suit, someone with money and a lot of time could literally tie him up in legal proceedings for years draining whatever resources he may have in the process of fighting it. Especially if it was multiple peolpe he had to fight off.
Bickering on a forum is one thing, but creating a public targeted and stalker-ish site isn't the greatest idea.
At this point, why even call it an alpha? The fanboys are playing and enjoying as if its a full game anyways.
There are two reasons to call it alpha:
1) they can change anything at any time, with no consequences
2) since it isn't a released product, they are only taking "donations" or "pledges". There is no guarantee of a game, and you don't get your money back.
If they actually had a product that people actually purchased, they would have a lot more limitations.
This way, they can develop for an infinite amount of time, nobody can complain if they totally change everything, and you can't get your money back if they just close down and walk away.
I've been saying for years that this game is going to be a huge success.
The selling and production is a huge success. And the eye candy is nice. The gameplay is lagging behind. No persistence, and no guarantee that it won't be delayed due to management flightyness.
I still recall all the negative flack I caught in 2016 when I suggested SC would release in 2020. I was so overly optimistic.
My old prediction was they'd release with ~4 systems. 'Release' being attempted persistence in my view. However, CIG is already running SC in a Game-as-a-Service model, imo.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
I've been saying for years that this game is going to be a huge success.
The selling and production is a huge success.
And there won't be more - ever. Why change a running system? As long as people are spending money on this, there will be an Alpha 3.3, 3.4, 3.8, 4.5 and so on.
At this point, why even call it an alpha? The fanboys are playing and enjoying as if its a full game anyways.
Can you imagine the drama and controversy if the fans tried to call it a full game?
Joe Blabbers will tell you it's a full game that just needs tweaking. If you disagree with him he'll call you a naysayer and add you to his Hit List https://sctrollsdump.wordpress.com/manze/
Thanks for sharing it even if I don't make any public mention of it.
That is mainly a repository of one single individual I won't name as he does not deserve much attention and a convenient way to highlight his followers, official or non official using the same low level rhetoric or obfuscation, lies, fake information baseless tactics.
There is also page about factual numbers. Hate or love it, both are fine
I've been saying for years that this game is going to be a huge success.
The selling and production is a huge success.
And there won't be more - ever. Why change a running system? As long as people are spending money on this, there will be an Alpha 3.3, 3.4, 3.8, 4.5 and so on.
... until release because... this is what everyone call a game in development. Being both ambitious and starting from scratch make it special but not different of all others project done by companies: develop, release to make way more cash than during the alpha phase.
Is it going to be wiped? If so then it’s not the released game as it means the “persistent universe” is not in fact persistent.
Alpha = wipe
Persistent universe (in alpha) is to compare to none persistent universe (also in alpha) with items starting to stay where they are supposed to stay. This not related with wipe or no wipe concept as SC is not advertised as a fully finished game.... yet
Is it going to be wiped? If so then it’s not the released game as it means the “persistent universe” is not in fact persistent.
Alpha = wipe
Persistent universe (in alpha) is to compare to none persistent universe (also in alpha) with items starting to stay where they are supposed to stay. This not related with wipe or no wipe concept as SC is not advertised as a fully finished game.... yet
The day they announce no more wipes I'll take a look, but first I'm hoping SQ42 will release so I can get an idea of what the greater game might be like.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Is it going to be wiped? If so then it’s not the released game as it means the “persistent universe” is not in fact persistent.
Alpha = wipe
Persistent universe (in alpha) is to compare to none persistent universe (also in alpha) with items starting to stay where they are supposed to stay. This not related with wipe or no wipe concept as SC is not advertised as a fully finished game.... yet
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Is it going to be wiped? If so then it’s not the released game as it means the “persistent universe” is not in fact persistent.
Alpha = wipe
Persistent universe (in alpha) is to compare to none persistent universe (also in alpha) with items starting to stay where they are supposed to stay. This not related with wipe or no wipe concept as SC is not advertised as a fully finished game.... yet
The day they announce no more wipes I'll take a look, but first I'm hoping SQ42 will release so I can get an idea of what the greater game might be like.
I actually patched mine last night for the first time in... ages. Figure I'll give it a look, but all I ever really wanted from this project was SQ42.
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Is it going to be wiped? If so then it’s not the released game as it means the “persistent universe” is not in fact persistent.
Alpha = wipe
Persistent universe (in alpha) is to compare to none persistent universe (also in alpha) with items starting to stay where they are supposed to stay. This not related with wipe or no wipe concept as SC is not advertised as a fully finished game.... yet
The day they announce no more wipes I'll take a look, but first I'm hoping SQ42 will release so I can get an idea of what the greater game might be like.
I actually patched mine last night for the first time in... ages. Figure I'll give it a look, but all I ever really wanted from this project was SQ42.
After you play for at least 10 hrs. I'd like to read your review.
Doubt I will get that far as my buddies dont have it, but we will see.
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Is it going to be wiped? If so then it’s not the released game as it means the “persistent universe” is not in fact persistent.
Alpha = wipe
Persistent universe (in alpha) is to compare to none persistent universe (also in alpha) with items starting to stay where they are supposed to stay. This not related with wipe or no wipe concept as SC is not advertised as a fully finished game.... yet
The day they announce no more wipes I'll take a look, but first I'm hoping SQ42 will release so I can get an idea of what the greater game might be like.
....And that's a big reason that SQ42 isn't released. An actual game, with troubles and flaws from their poor management, would interfere with the dream world marketing pitch for Star Citizen.
The many problems and flaws of an alpha (despite it being run as a GaaS) would not be nearly as acceptable in a released product. Plus we already know that they've lied on camera about SQ42 game production.
They are not about to mess with the golden goose.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
I've been saying for years that this game is going to be a huge success.
It is already a massive failure because the game lags severely behind the budget and has no end game in sight.An organized team has a GOAL to complete the game,this team has ZERO clue as to when and how to finish the game.
All RObert's and Co are doing is just delaying over and over for as long as the money keeps rolling in.The res of us said for YEARS this was going to not release for a VERY long time and we were right.
IMO this will NEVER release as finished UNTIL no more money is coming in then it is phase 2 of marketing a finished game.
It is also a fail from day 1 because it is a p2w game,this segregates the intelligent gamer from the dumbasses who will just throw money at the developer.The idea of a game design should be one that brings together ALL players at the EXACT same cost.
The idea of a game and world and character is to EARN your keep and not buy it from some magical cash shop in the sky.So this game fails on pretty much ALL accounts and can never be fixed moving forward,it can only get worse.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Star Citizen already offers plenty of gameplay on a very specific setting and a level of fidelity and immersion that no other game can offer, even Elite: Dangerous veteran players are jumping ship and turning into citizens
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Basically clicking away text windows ruins every MMO, try to have fun instead of rushing things. Without story and lore all there is left is a bunch of mechanics.
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Can you imagine the drama and controversy if the fans tried to call it a full game?
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Joe Blabbers will tell you it's a full game that just needs tweaking. If you disagree with him he'll call you a naysayer and add you to his Hit List https://sctrollsdump.wordpress.com/manze/
They literally have a wall of shame website.
As amusing as it is, "YoMomma" is on it as well. And my mother always said video games are a waste of time ... little did I know.
Curious about the cloud city though. For all my criticisms, their locations have always been top notch. I'll definitely have a look.
There are two reasons to call it alpha:
1) they can change anything at any time, with no consequences
2) since it isn't a released product, they are only taking "donations" or "pledges". There is no guarantee of a game, and you don't get your money back.
If they actually had a product that people actually purchased, they would have a lot more limitations.
This way, they can develop for an infinite amount of time, nobody can complain if they totally change everything, and you can't get your money back if they just close down and walk away.
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I still recall all the negative flack I caught in 2016 when I suggested SC would release in 2020. I was so overly optimistic.
My old prediction was they'd release with ~4 systems. 'Release' being attempted persistence in my view. However, CIG is already running SC in a Game-as-a-Service model, imo.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
And there won't be more - ever. Why change a running system? As long as people are spending money on this, there will be an Alpha 3.3, 3.4, 3.8, 4.5 and so on.
No. As an early backer, I do not pretend it is a finished game but an alpha game I am proud to support with full understanding of alpha meaning.
Thanks for sharing it even if I don't make any public mention of it.
That is mainly a repository of one single individual I won't name as he does not deserve much attention and a convenient way to highlight his followers, official or non official using the same low level rhetoric or obfuscation, lies, fake information baseless tactics.
There is also page about factual numbers. Hate or love it, both are fine
... until release because... this is what everyone call a game in development. Being both ambitious and starting from scratch make it special but not different of all others project done by companies: develop, release to make way more cash than during the alpha phase.
What are you talking about? Star Citizen was released in 2016.
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Alpha = wipe
Persistent universe (in alpha) is to compare to none persistent universe (also in alpha) with items starting to stay where they are supposed to stay. This not related with wipe or no wipe concept as SC is not advertised as a fully finished game.... yet
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"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
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The many problems and flaws of an alpha (despite it being run as a GaaS) would not be nearly as acceptable in a released product. Plus we already know that they've lied on camera about SQ42 game production.
They are not about to mess with the golden goose.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
All RObert's and Co are doing is just delaying over and over for as long as the money keeps rolling in.The res of us said for YEARS this was going to not release for a VERY long time and we were right.
IMO this will NEVER release as finished UNTIL no more money is coming in then it is phase 2 of marketing a finished game.
It is also a fail from day 1 because it is a p2w game,this segregates the intelligent gamer from the dumbasses who will just throw money at the developer.The idea of a game design should be one that brings together ALL players at the EXACT same cost.
The idea of a game and world and character is to EARN your keep and not buy it from some magical cash shop in the sky.So this game fails on pretty much ALL accounts and can never be fixed moving forward,it can only get worse.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.