Stay away from peoples who stay away from PUGs! As they are unable to adapt and follow a strict 'efficiency' line, yet, I always outlevel them!
I see guilds who hate PUGs have drastic differents ways of grouping, believing in minority theory, they find 1 and they stick to it. Lack of thinking, lack of adaptation, lack of...grouping! Meet new peoples, find new ways to die, find new solution, this is what is FUN!
Ah, this is what i feel to, you learn from each and every experience, PuG's is one of the best way to learnwhat to do, what to not do, whats right, whats wrong, its in many way's the base essence of every team based MMO out there (and we know there are alot of them right now).
Not saying it is wrong to solo and that people meaning otherwise is wrong, im just saying that on this that Anofalye writes, i totally understand and can relate to the feeling.
I may be a glutton for punishment, but sometimes when i end up on a bad PuG, i actually end up enjoying the whole thing, looking at what, i think off course, people do wrong, how they work togheter and how we faceplant and end up with a team wipe without the peeps in the group understanding why, and then the other day, you find a PuG that seems like nothing can beat you, you rush through missions/zones/raids, whatever like nothing can stop you, and once again your faith in other people is restored..
Yes yes, sorry for the thread jack, but something reacted when i read that ^_^
PuG should be wiewed as a learning experience for all part's, both the ones new to the game, and those who's been around a long time, getting blamed and trashtalked is nothing but comical when you know the guy doing the trashtalk dont know half of what he's saying..
I have almost always played a healer class in MMORPGs. I was almost always a pvper as well. In Everquest, I was a cleric on the Zeks. I really enjoyed it.
In DAOC, I was a healer, and I happened to be lucky enough to group with some people on the very first day who recruited me to their guild, which became the most powerful guild on the server for a long time until it broke up months later to create the four most powerful guilds on the server. I was the initial healer for that guild, and as such, I was able to gain quite a reputation as a healer that would do some serious killing in pvp back when everyone was still learning how to pvp.
WoW killed healers, in my opinion. I was a priest, and as much as I tried to maintain being a healer, the other players just sucked. I co-played EQII, and they were just as bad in that game as well. Whenever a tank who didn't know he had a "taunt" skill caused the group to wipe, with him being the last to die, I would get blamed for not keeping EVERYONE healed. After so many of those types of situations, I started soloing instead. I ended up soloing a priest to the top, and after that I quit the game. There was nothing left in it for me.
In the old days, being a healer meant you played a very important class. Now, you fill a slot that someone playing his first MMORPG is convinced he knows more about your class than you do. I started getting pissed very fast and I would leave groups really fast whenever I started getting the infamous "well, I have a 60 priest, and I know how to play it", even though he obviously didn't ever play a priest, or gave "instructions" indicating he'd played one to level 15 and was convinced he was an expert at 60.
So I've retired as a healer. I was a very good one. I don't want to heal anyone anymore. I sometimes question whether or not I'll ever play another MMORPG again. The players have become really rude these days.
Originally posted by reavo Originally posted by hercules Which game got you pissed off? Because i am sure not all games have that sort of community.I play EQ2 and there is just a very few handful of people i would not group with and they are so few that they are notorious on the server and rarely get a group anyhow .
It was WoW.
I actually thought about quitting the game. Because I made a priest, then pretty much soloed him up to about 26. I was in a few small groups during that time but not anything big. Not because I didn't want to be in big groups, just that it always seemed to turn out that way.
Then after 26 I started getting in bigger and bigger groups. And the people became more and more notoriously rude and obnoxious. I just got sick of it.
It seems like the newer crowd of gamers. I'm sorry if I'm over generalizing and wrong, but that's just the way it seems to me.
I play EQ2 also. The people on there aren't nearly as bad. But I think a lot of the people playing EQ2 are folks from EQ. I know they definitely seem older. And they're not as bad in EQ or DAoC. But as newer games have come out, the crowds in general have gotten worse. In all of them.
I don't try to tell others how to play their class, but it seems everyone has advice for the healer. Usually, just stand back and heal. They don't want to try to coordinate anything on the front lines. It's just go in, hit what's there, and take for granted there is a healer in the group.
It could be a lot more fun for everyone to explore different play styles. That's kinda why they have different spec lines for healers in games, don't you guys agree?
I played a priest in WoW.And luckily he was an alt so i could gear him well.
I tried grouping and went thru the same headaches like you said .I experienced it with my shaman but had little option as i was learning the ropes ,low on funds,etc.
But i tell you what a shadow priest is a good soloer once he hits 40 or so.I suggest you do what i did when i played WoW.Solo all the way.Look for a good guild at 60(priest are always welcomed).Then go raiding at 60.
Or come back to EQ2 we could always use a good healer on the pvp servers
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Ah, this is what i feel to, you learn from each and every experience, PuG's is one of the best way to learn what to do, what to not do, whats right, whats wrong, its in many way's the base essence of every team based MMO out there (and we know there are alot of them right now).
Not saying it is wrong to solo and that people meaning otherwise is wrong, im just saying that on this that Anofalye writes, i totally understand and can relate to the feeling.
I may be a glutton for punishment, but sometimes when i end up on a bad PuG, i actually end up enjoying the whole thing, looking at what, i think off course, people do wrong, how they work togheter and how we faceplant and end up with a team wipe without the peeps in the group understanding why, and then the other day, you find a PuG that seems like nothing can beat you, you rush through missions/zones/raids, whatever like nothing can stop you, and once again your faith in other people is restored..
Yes yes, sorry for the thread jack, but something reacted when i read that ^_^
PuG should be wiewed as a learning experience for all part's, both the ones new to the game, and those who's been around a long time, getting blamed and trashtalked is nothing but comical when you know the guy doing the trashtalk dont know half of what he's saying..
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I have almost always played a healer class in MMORPGs. I was almost always a pvper as well. In Everquest, I was a cleric on the Zeks. I really enjoyed it.
In DAOC, I was a healer, and I happened to be lucky enough to group with some people on the very first day who recruited me to their guild, which became the most powerful guild on the server for a long time until it broke up months later to create the four most powerful guilds on the server. I was the initial healer for that guild, and as such, I was able to gain quite a reputation as a healer that would do some serious killing in pvp back when everyone was still learning how to pvp.
WoW killed healers, in my opinion. I was a priest, and as much as I tried to maintain being a healer, the other players just sucked. I co-played EQII, and they were just as bad in that game as well. Whenever a tank who didn't know he had a "taunt" skill caused the group to wipe, with him being the last to die, I would get blamed for not keeping EVERYONE healed. After so many of those types of situations, I started soloing instead. I ended up soloing a priest to the top, and after that I quit the game. There was nothing left in it for me.
In the old days, being a healer meant you played a very important class. Now, you fill a slot that someone playing his first MMORPG is convinced he knows more about your class than you do. I started getting pissed very fast and I would leave groups really fast whenever I started getting the infamous "well, I have a 60 priest, and I know how to play it", even though he obviously didn't ever play a priest, or gave "instructions" indicating he'd played one to level 15 and was convinced he was an expert at 60.
So I've retired as a healer. I was a very good one. I don't want to heal anyone anymore. I sometimes question whether or not I'll ever play another MMORPG again. The players have become really rude these days.
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I actually thought about quitting the game. Because I made a priest, then pretty much soloed him up to about 26. I was in a few small groups during that time but not anything big. Not because I didn't want to be in big groups, just that it always seemed to turn out that way.
Then after 26 I started getting in bigger and bigger groups. And the people became more and more notoriously rude and obnoxious. I just got sick of it.
It seems like the newer crowd of gamers. I'm sorry if I'm over generalizing and wrong, but that's just the way it seems to me.
I play EQ2 also. The people on there aren't nearly as bad. But I think a lot of the people playing EQ2 are folks from EQ. I know they definitely seem older. And they're not as bad in EQ or DAoC. But as newer games have come out, the crowds in general have gotten worse. In all of them.
I don't try to tell others how to play their class, but it seems everyone has advice for the healer. Usually, just stand back and heal. They don't want to try to coordinate anything on the front lines. It's just go in, hit what's there, and take for granted there is a healer in the group.
It could be a lot more fun for everyone to explore different play styles. That's kinda why they have different spec lines for healers in games, don't you guys agree?
I played a priest in WoW.And luckily he was an alt so i could gear him well.
I tried grouping and went thru the same headaches like you said .I experienced it with my shaman but had little option as i was learning the ropes ,low on funds,etc.
But i tell you what a shadow priest is a good soloer once he hits 40 or so.I suggest you do what i did when i played WoW.Solo all the way.Look for a good guild at 60(priest are always welcomed).Then go raiding at 60.
Or come back to EQ2 we could always use a good healer on the pvp servers