I never got into CK 3 I'm not sure why EuIV is my game of choice but I wouldn't suggest starting there as it has some crazy systems that you could play for 100 hours and not even know they existed.
Well there is a new grand strategy, that takes longer than ck3, it's terra invicta. It's not paradox games, but it plays like one, it has xcom theme, basically you played as shadow organization that controls government either to fight or cooperate with aliens, it has earth map and entire solar system with tech like the tv series "Expanse". you can play for an entire week with 5x speed and still not see your country capable of building interstellar ships. lol
That sounds awesome I'm going to check it out is it on steam?
yep, it's still considered early access, but I have played it, and it's 100% working. probably they will add more stuff, but you can play from start to finish with no problem, it's a long slow game. moving ships from earth to mars takes like 1 year until you have stolen alien tech or progressed far in normal tech, you will also colonize planets and asteroids. it's a very good game on par with vc3 probably even better, I played for 1 month but only encounter 1 crash.
I never got into CK 3 I'm not sure why EuIV is my game of choice but I wouldn't suggest starting there as it has some crazy systems that you could play for 100 hours and not even know they existed.
Well there is a new grand strategy, that takes longer than ck3, it's terra invicta. It's not paradox games, but it plays like one, it has xcom theme, basically you played as shadow organization that controls government either to fight or cooperate with aliens, it has earth map and entire solar system with tech like the tv series "Expanse". you can play for an entire week with 5x speed and still not see your country capable of building interstellar ships. lol
TI is still in Early Access. I'm not buying it until they release it. I really enjoyed the demo that was out earlier this year (why they killed the demo, I'll never know). Some of us old grognards enjoy that slow, deliberate pace that some games have. The game of TI occurs in the solar system, so why would you need an interstellar ship?
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
I never got into CK 3 I'm not sure why EuIV is my game of choice but I wouldn't suggest starting there as it has some crazy systems that you could play for 100 hours and not even know they existed.
Well there is a new grand strategy, that takes longer than ck3, it's terra invicta. It's not paradox games, but it plays like one, it has xcom theme, basically you played as shadow organization that controls government either to fight or cooperate with aliens, it has earth map and entire solar system with tech like the tv series "Expanse". you can play for an entire week with 5x speed and still not see your country capable of building interstellar ships. lol
TI is still in Early Access. I'm not buying it until they release it. I really enjoyed the demo that was out earlier this year (why they killed the demo, I'll never know). Some of us old grognards enjoy that slow, deliberate pace that some games have. The game of TI occurs in the solar system, so why would you need an interstellar ship?
Same here, I rushed to Steam to check it out and found it is already on my Wishlist. I hate it when that happens.
I'm a paradox fan and even I have to say this is their worst launch yet. The game just doesn't feel fun in any sense of the word.
One of the most fun things to do in a marketplace/economy simulator is to stockpile goods! Then wait for the right price and sell. Then use that money to improve your industry and continue expanding your trade. Victoria doesn't even have stockpiles, you just have inputs and outputs. That's fine a factory simulator like factorio, where it's fun to figure out the logistics and explore the complexities. Honestly the game was very straight forward in it's trade system.
Don't even get me on the combat. My very first game I chose the phillipines and immediately declared independence from Spain who promptly... did nothing until the war score was in my favor.
I am a big fan of Paradox games. I've put more hours into HoI3 and V2 than I care to admit. I loved the tech tree in V2, yet there was no mention of it in this article. V2 was great for helping you remember those obscure geographical districts from around the world; I'm certain that V3 will be just as insightful.
I'm totally wondering with my history of Paradox games played through Steam why V3 has never appeared on my wish list? Maybe Steam automatically added it there for me. I'd better go check.
edit: No, it's on the wish list. It was added a while back; I must have forgotten. There are quite a few reviews accumulating, and even many of the "Recommend" ones say there are numerous problems. My concern is that Paradox will 'fix' these issues with DLC -- at a cost. This will end up being another $500 title in a few years. It may price itself out of my price range.
My main concern is dumbing down, it's the curse of gaming. The last CIv being a perfect example, but Paradox has not done that yet to my knowledge. Though I have played a few of their titles I have coincidently not played many/any(?) "sequels", but hopefully that's the case.
Paradox isn't likely to dumb down their games. To the contrary, their business model is quite the opposite. They'll release a bunch of expansions over the years that all add even more complexity to the game. The problem is that they want you to buy this expansion, that one, and the other, and it all adds up. The complete bundle for Europa Universalis IV is currently $393.87 on Steam, and that's with a bundle discount. That's quite a bit for a single player game. Victoria 3 will probably end up like that, too.
Paradox does seem to realize that that's quite a barrier to getting into some of their older games, so they offer subscriptions as an alternative, for $5/month. But they only do that for their older games, and having to wait several years after a game launches for the price to come down is not ideal.
I would love to try these types of games but I have no clue on how to even start. Is there a primer game that might teach me how to play this type of game?
If you are even slightly interested in a game of this type I would suggest Crusader Kings 3. Better game (and series inmho) a great introduction for new players and great systems.
I haven't played Crusader Kings 3, but I did play Crusader Kings 2 for a while. I didn't like it very much. The problem is that things are going well, and then you randomly die and your kingdom gets split into five pieces among your heirs, one of which you control, and the others then declare war on you.
I realize that managing inheritance is much of the point of the game. But you had to do so many weird and unnatural things to set up your heir, and I didn't like that. Some forms of challenge are fun and some aren't, and that, to me, wasn't fun.
I'm not against Paradox games. I really liked Europa Universalis II some years ago. I tried EU3 and couldn't get into it, but the problem was probably that I had played EU2 so much. More recently, I liked Stellaris a lot, too. But I didn't like CK2.
It has a horrible loading time I'm using 10th generation intel 3.5G 8 cores with 16 G mem with older 1080ti 8 G, it still takes 5 min to load, if you use V2 spec to play this game you probably won't be able to load it until all you hair turns white, bugs are not that much, crashes are not that frequent, but when you do have crashes you are back to the long loading screen (some people might kill themselves)
Really the first load was long I agree and I think that is standard with all paradox games of this generation but after that my load times are like 30 seconds I timed it four times from complete exit to relaunch and it never went more than 30.
For me the first load took a long time, but I think it should just be counted as part of the installation. After that loading times were ok.
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Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
One of the most fun things to do in a marketplace/economy simulator is to stockpile goods! Then wait for the right price and sell. Then use that money to improve your industry and continue expanding your trade. Victoria doesn't even have stockpiles, you just have inputs and outputs. That's fine a factory simulator like factorio, where it's fun to figure out the logistics and explore the complexities. Honestly the game was very straight forward in it's trade system.
Don't even get me on the combat. My very first game I chose the phillipines and immediately declared independence from Spain who promptly... did nothing until the war score was in my favor.
Siki siki!
Paradox does seem to realize that that's quite a barrier to getting into some of their older games, so they offer subscriptions as an alternative, for $5/month. But they only do that for their older games, and having to wait several years after a game launches for the price to come down is not ideal.
I realize that managing inheritance is much of the point of the game. But you had to do so many weird and unnatural things to set up your heir, and I didn't like that. Some forms of challenge are fun and some aren't, and that, to me, wasn't fun.
I'm not against Paradox games. I really liked Europa Universalis II some years ago. I tried EU3 and couldn't get into it, but the problem was probably that I had played EU2 so much. More recently, I liked Stellaris a lot, too. But I didn't like CK2.
Though I'm loading the game from 3500 MB/s SSD.