Zero exploration improvements with dragon riding since you fly super fast even faster than the fastest flight path you move through the map as if you’re using a speed hack. I read the whole review. With a list of pros like that it really does Sound like a paid ad. Nothing new and innovative. No game changing community building activities. Same old stuff with new paint. 3/10.
Def not worth paying a sub for on top of paying for yet another expansion that’s gonna get rendered obsolete next expansion and def not worth it when after a week or 2 max you’ve already seen it all and the only feeling you have is boredom from the grind and having been burnt out within a few days of release already.
Whoever makes a list of what’s “new” is a shill trying too hard to sell a another scam of an expansion with zero real content and innovation. Same old stuff repackaged and repainted. Same gameplay choices. Dragon riding is just a speed hack so fast it’s not even part of exploration.
The fact that people who are listing all the "great new features" are separating Dracies into race and class shows how abysmally shallow this expansion is. It's also getting a Battle Pass. If a new class and race are locked to each other you don't really have either a new "class" or new "race", what you have is a "new" gimmick, and by "new" I mean lifted from Eastern MMORPGs. Only way it could have been even more obvious is if they gender locked it too.
People love to hate WoW lol. The last two expansions were shit, this one is good. Get over it.
We will talk in max 2 months. There is zero ( if you want I can spell that to you ) new content in DF. Z E R O.
I keep hearing "DF is very good" , "DF has lots of things to do" .. from people like you. I always ask them to tell me what "lots of things" they are talking about and "how is DF good". All of them fail to tell me exactly. Just your usual "But .. is amazing. You can do so much more..".
Tell me with a straight face : How well do you know each zone? lol. And tell me all the zone names without google it.
I have to disagree with you. All the content is brand new, you have never played any of the content prior to it launching. Are they short on new ideas? Perhaps. However with the vast years of MMORPG'ing i have yet to see an mmorpg reinvent the wheel. If you want me to list some of the new things here goes.
1) New race
2) New class
3) New talent trees
4) New solo rated
5) New crafting systems
6) alt friendly leveling
7) New Gear
8) Dragon Flying
9) New Story
10) New Zone
Will the hype last probably not, but thats the state of gaming in general. People play and then move on.
You really picking on someone that can't recall the zones name off the top of their head lol.
What?
When I say New Content , I mainly refer to content which impacts your progression and your gameplay. New Story, New Zones, New Gear ( wtf? ) we have this since .. forever. New Race, New Class is new content, but not gameplay progression related. New talent trees.......are you serious!? Alt friendly /facepalm . New Crafting System .... whatever for this one, including Dragon Flight.
Listen, when I mean new content, I mean like : Legion -> M+ , World Quests, Artefacts, for THE first time.
Even BfA had War Fronts and Islands Expeditions as New Content, but failed to delivery. Same goes with The Maw and Torghast in Shadowlands. This are new content, not picking a new flower, a new piece of gear or completing a different kill 10 mobs.
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Well i tried it, picked up the expansion and a months sub, the new character class is a bit meh, i ditched it and created a regular mage instead, hit level 25 eventually but, its boring, its a solo game by this point, the first time i queued for a dungeon, it took about 15 mins, and 2 people abandoned it immediately, so, going to give the classic WotLK a go, may as well right?
People love to hate WoW lol. The last two expansions were shit, this one is good. Get over it.
We will talk in max 2 months. There is zero ( if you want I can spell that to you ) new content in DF. Z E R O.
I keep hearing "DF is very good" , "DF has lots of things to do" .. from people like you. I always ask them to tell me what "lots of things" they are talking about and "how is DF good". All of them fail to tell me exactly. Just your usual "But .. is amazing. You can do so much more..".
Tell me with a straight face : How well do you know each zone? lol. And tell me all the zone names without google it.
I have to disagree with you. All the content is brand new, you have never played any of the content prior to it launching. Are they short on new ideas? Perhaps. However with the vast years of MMORPG'ing i have yet to see an mmorpg reinvent the wheel. If you want me to list some of the new things here goes.
1) New race
2) New class
3) New talent trees
4) New solo rated
5) New crafting systems
6) alt friendly leveling
7) New Gear
8) Dragon Flying
9) New Story
10) New Zone
Will the hype last probably not, but thats the state of gaming in general. People play and then move on.
You really picking on someone that can't recall the zones name off the top of their head lol.
What?
When I say New Content , I mainly refer to content which impacts your progression and your gameplay. New Story, New Zones, New Gear ( wtf? ) we have this since .. forever. New Race, New Class is new content, but not gameplay progression related. New talent trees.......are you serious!? Alt friendly /facepalm . New Crafting System .... whatever for this one, including Dragon Flight.
Listen, when I mean new content, I mean like : Legion -> M+ , World Quests, Artefacts, for THE first time.
Even BfA had War Fronts and Islands Expeditions as New Content, but failed to delivery. Same goes with The Maw and Torghast in Shadowlands. This are new content, not picking a new flower, a new piece of gear or completing a different kill 10 mobs.
Seems to me you were expecting WoW 2.0. There are new features and some of the existing features were re-done. Its the black and white definition of an expansion. Improving on what is already there and adding extra/new content. Sorry its not up to your expectations.
I am enjoying playing the expansion thats all that matters to me, some of the hate here seems more like someone has some mental issues.
Calling out issues about a product doesn't mean people have mental issues. Thought processes like yours is why the gaming community moves towards toxicity.
Blind devotion for a game only makes it worse over time.
When I say New Content , I mainly refer to content which impacts your progression and your gameplay. New Story, New Zones, New Gear ( wtf? ) we have this since .. forever.
Isn't that most expansions for most games? I don't expect an expansion to give a new race or class every time one drops.
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I would say initial scores of expansions really dont hold water. The old MMORPG.com team ended up learning this lesson towards the end and proposed a more 'patch-by-patch' evaluation of mmorpgs to give a more accurate run down, but I suppose that idea got dropped. Some people will debate whether or not WoD or SL was the worst expansion, but I'll still pin myself to BfA.
WoD wasn't really bad because of the things it did but more so of what it didn't do. It really NEEDED that Achindome raid they axed in order for the rest of the expansion to make sense and fill out more of the expansion which ultimately suffered from lacking actual content (no the selfie-cam patch wasn't real content).
SL suffered some from the pandemic which is true but ultimately the lack of direction. Lets not forget SL was released at least 3 months before the pandemic and it felt like they didn't know what direction they wanted to go in at that time. Then it just became a rush to put content out while always having some form of 6 month sub sale to ignore some of the complaining. After that it just became about tying things off to put more resources into DF, thus the last raid honestly just looking like another area of ZM instead of an actual raid (for crying out loud, the Jailer just looked like a bigger version of a torghast floor boss).
To me BfA will remain the worst expansion because it honestly had no 'outside' things holding it back, just completely bad idea and/or poor execution of many ideas. The Ghuun raid was COMPLETELY pointless when they introduced a new ring to azerite item, making M0 azerite gear stronger than Mythic raiding azerite gear. 0 legendaries until the tact-on leggo in 8.3. Azerite armor system was essentially dropped when essences got introduced to add a 'better' progression system. The thing I feel the game never really recovered from, was just how 'good' legion was. The problem is, many people dont realize why legion was 'good,' which was because it up-ended a lot of things that were originally in the game (many class abilities/glyph system) and put them into an endgame progression system. People were fine with the idea when they finally got through most of the system, but the classes were very hallow during the prepatch and even until you grinded out thousands of azerite for certain classes/specs. The problem came when they flushed all of that (which flushed previous things in the game with it) and tied to tie a system around armor......which was obviously they never played their game suggestion a player's core progression (skills included) should be tied to armor, with how fast you replace it in wow....
All of that said, I'm sure people are enjoying the beginning of DF as they have enjoyed the beginning of even the 'worst' of expansions in the past, but unless these 'reviews' are updated on a 'patch-by-patch' basis, they are kind of meaningless to me at least.
What can i say i'm so back into the game than maybe i've ever been.
Dragonriding has had such a positive option on the game as a whole, unfortunately only in the Dragon Isles atm.
I'm not a huge fan of flying, yet i couldn't play without it anymore, that's an entire other debate but regardless it's not going to go away.
Dragonriding can somewhat appeal to both sides of the fence as i find i'm on foot far more often than would i be if i had the standard limitless flight option.
I mean bottom line the expansion has outstanding content, a variety of deeper options such as crafting, and Dragonriding is fantastic fun. What's not to like so far? But yeah, will this continue? I'd bet money it will as they've listened to the players so far, why would they stop now after all this? Plus, Its got a nice rpg vibe too it now as well
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Literally, you cannot be taken serious at this point. Giving Shadowlands 9.0 , one of the worst expansion ever, and this one also a 9 .. well, cool story bro.
Unless, history repeats right? You gave Shadowlands 9 and it turns one of the worst. That's more likely to also happen to Dragonflight.
Great!
That "Bro" Robin has been with us quite a few years, and this expansion is getting a 79 on MC. Now I know that's not a 9, but it is hardly the worst ever score is it? Shadowlands got an 83 at MC by the way. Not saying that sets it stone, just that it is not a million miles away from Robin's score.
I don't know what it is about WoW expansions but they get the most love and hate of any I have ever seen.
Problem is, who writes this reviews and for what..?
What matters is users score. On MC it currently sits at 4.4 out of 10 which is exactly in line with other x-pacs , such as BfA and Shadowlands. Shadowlands has a 2.9 out of 10 in User Score on Metacritic. I assume DF will be sitting at around the same score.
Plus its been 3 weeks since the release of DF, and no .. Units Sold ..yet. As a comparation, in Shadowlands, they announce after like 2 weeks that they sold 3.7 mil....within 24h.
..but if you ask me, Ion Hazzikostas is guilty for everything Retail related in the last 3 expansions.
Dude you a rating a game based on Metacritic and the User Score ?! xD This is nothing but a shitshow there. Just crying babys that a not rating based on what is, just rating it low because it has bug and stuff. Like yeah sure bugs are bad, but to give a game a 0 because of that is just plain dumb. A game of this scale always has bugs that are not so easily fixable, but to delay a xpac because of this bug ?! And just because Blizzard is not posting their Units sold you think that DF is the downfall of wow? If you look at the roadmap and the state of the game I am really happy and are having the fun of my life. The last time I had this amount of fun was playing Legion.
Literally, you cannot be taken serious at this point. Giving Shadowlands 9.0 , one of the worst expansion ever, and this one also a 9 .. well, cool story bro.
Unless, history repeats right? You gave Shadowlands 9 and it turns one of the worst. That's more likely to also happen to Dragonflight.
Great!
That "Bro" Robin has been with us quite a few years, and this expansion is getting a 79 on MC. Now I know that's not a 9, but it is hardly the worst ever score is it? Shadowlands got an 83 at MC by the way. Not saying that sets it stone, just that it is not a million miles away from Robin's score.
I don't know what it is about WoW expansions but they get the most love and hate of any I have ever seen.
Problem is, who writes this reviews and for what..?
What matters is users score. On MC it currently sits at 4.4 out of 10 which is exactly in line with other x-pacs , such as BfA and Shadowlands. Shadowlands has a 2.9 out of 10 in User Score on Metacritic. I assume DF will be sitting at around the same score.
Plus its been 3 weeks since the release of DF, and no .. Units Sold ..yet. As a comparation, in Shadowlands, they announce after like 2 weeks that they sold 3.7 mil....within 24h.
..but if you ask me, Ion Hazzikostas is guilty for everything Retail related in the last 3 expansions.
Dude you a rating a game based on Metacritic and the User Score ?! xD This is nothing but a shitshow there. Just crying babys that a not rating based on what is, just rating it low because it has bug and stuff. Like yeah sure bugs are bad, but to give a game a 0 because of that is just plain dumb. A game of this scale always has bugs that are not so easily fixable, but to delay a xpac because of this bug ?! And just because Blizzard is not posting their Units sold you think that DF is the downfall of wow? If you look at the roadmap and the state of the game I am really happy and are having the fun of my life. The last time I had this amount of fun was playing Legion.
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I have to say I give value to user reviews on Metarcritic if there are lots of votes and for Shadowlands there were over 500 negatives, so there must be issues for those players. However, that does not mean the User Score indicates much as we may not have the same issues with the game or dlc. You need to dig deep, see why they were unhappy, I would use Steam for this if you can or come on here as a start.
Clearly for the baulk of players both of the expansions I have been talking about were a big plus and lets face it, if it's a DLC and you don't like it what are you going to do? You could play classic I guess that's about it.
My biggest problem is not solved. Since I saw Tera, Blade&Soul and especially Black Desert and Bless Unleashed boobs...ehm graphics I can't play WoW anymore. It doesn't matter how better wow gameplay might be, the abilities, the strategy at bosses... boobs, ehm sorry I mean Graphics graphics will have prio. Waiting for WoW2 for boobs... ehm graphics, i meant graphics!
I also I agree that 3 pros for a game can't explain a 9
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Def not worth paying a sub for on top of paying for yet another expansion that’s gonna get rendered obsolete next expansion and def not worth it when after a week or 2 max you’ve already seen it all and the only feeling you have is boredom from the grind and having been burnt out within a few days of release already.
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When I say New Content , I mainly refer to content which impacts your progression and your gameplay. New Story, New Zones, New Gear ( wtf? ) we have this since .. forever. New Race, New Class is new content, but not gameplay progression related. New talent trees.......are you serious!? Alt friendly /facepalm . New Crafting System .... whatever for this one, including Dragon Flight.
Listen, when I mean new content, I mean like : Legion -> M+ , World Quests, Artefacts, for THE first time.
Even BfA had War Fronts and Islands Expeditions as New Content, but failed to delivery. Same goes with The Maw and Torghast in Shadowlands. This are new content, not picking a new flower, a new piece of gear or completing a different kill 10 mobs.
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Race & class should not be listed as separate features as they are not.
Having a story is not a feature....
I don't hate DF, but some of the positive features listed in this thread are a joke.
Calling out issues about a product doesn't mean people have mental issues. Thought processes like yours is why the gaming community moves towards toxicity.
Blind devotion for a game only makes it worse over time.
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What can i say i'm so back into the game than maybe i've ever been.
Dragonriding has had such a positive option on the game as a whole, unfortunately only in the Dragon Isles atm.
I'm not a huge fan of flying, yet i couldn't play without it anymore, that's an entire other debate but regardless it's not going to go away.
Dragonriding can somewhat appeal to both sides of the fence as i find i'm on foot far more often than would i be if i had the standard limitless flight option.
I mean bottom line the expansion has outstanding content, a variety of deeper options such as crafting, and Dragonriding is fantastic fun. What's not to like so far? But yeah, will this continue? I'd bet money it will as they've listened to the players so far, why would they stop now after all this? Plus, Its got a nice rpg vibe too it now as well
Dude you a rating a game based on Metacritic and the User Score ?! xD This is nothing but a shitshow there. Just crying babys that a not rating based on what is, just rating it low because it has bug and stuff. Like yeah sure bugs are bad, but to give a game a 0 because of that is just plain dumb. A game of this scale always has bugs that are not so easily fixable, but to delay a xpac because of this bug ?! And just because Blizzard is not posting their Units sold you think that DF is the downfall of wow? If you look at the roadmap and the state of the game I am really happy and are having the fun of my life. The last time I had this amount of fun was playing Legion.
I have to say I give value to user reviews on Metarcritic if there are lots of votes and for Shadowlands there were over 500 negatives, so there must be issues for those players. However, that does not mean the User Score indicates much as we may not have the same issues with the game or dlc. You need to dig deep, see why they were unhappy, I would use Steam for this if you can or come on here as a start.
Clearly for the baulk of players both of the expansions I have been talking about were a big plus and lets face it, if it's a DLC and you don't like it what are you going to do? You could play classic I guess that's about it.
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Well meta-critic user score currently 4.5 so you aren't far off!
I also I agree that 3 pros for a game can't explain a 9