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WildStar Is The Best MMORPG That Deserved To Die | MMORPG.com

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited February 2023 in News & Features Discussion

imageWildStar Is The Best MMORPG That Deserved To Die | MMORPG.com

WildStar is one of those MMORPGs many players look back on fondly, wondering where it all went wrong. For Nick, it's one where he's struggled to replace since its 2018 closure. But it's one he thinks, despite being stellar, deserved to be shut down.

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,651
    I dunno. I never really liked the whole Wildstar pitch or setting and didn't much enjoy playing it.

    For me I think Tabula Rasa is that game.
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  • foxgirlfoxgirl Member RarePosts: 485
    Mismanangement and trying too hard to "reinvent the wheel" didn't help either.
    Stuff like promising a lot of character customization, gloating about how there will be SO many options at the start, then backpedaling to we'll release them with the first major patch or something. And then getting only 4 to 6 of anyone option and a pitiful "sorry". I remember the beta chat was pretty pissed off.

    The crafting was horrendous minesweeper-ish garbage that no one I knew, liked. The story on the... rebel side was mediocre at best, while the impirial (I can't think of the faction names) side was significantly better, which showed obvious writer bias.

    I loved the game though, it was campy and b-movie nonsense and a lot of fun. But I knew it was doomed to fail with in a couple months of release, especially when they got bought out.

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    It may sound petty but from the beginning, I was put off by Wildstar's overuse of humor.

    I enjoy some humor in games but Wildstar overdid it and when it's overdone it just feels to me like a parody of an MMO from devs who don't take the genre seriously.

    I never got past the open beta or free trial, whatever it was, can't remember,
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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    The problem with WildStar is that you had to get help from other players to do things, but there weren't other players around to get help from. You could easily log in, actively play for an hour, including going to quest hubs, and then log back out, all without ever seeing another player online in that time. That's okay for a single-player game, but not one that goes out of its way to require other people to help you in various places.

    That wasn't the only problem with the game, but it was enough to break the game almost without regard to what else the game did.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936
    Iselin said:
    It may sound petty but from the beginning, I was put off by Wildstar's overuse of humor.

    I enjoy some humor in games but Wildstar overdid it and when it's overdone it just feels to me like a parody of an MMO from devs who don't take the genre seriously.

    I never got past the open beta or free trial, whatever it was, can't remember,
    I just didn't thin that most of the humor was funny. I  chalk it up to just not being the right demographic for their game.

    I do remember absolutely hating the starter tutorial. for me it has to just be funny if they are going this route. The Southpark games got it right for my taste.

    The Dungeon of Naheulbeuk sometimes does a decent job but they don't go far enough.


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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,060
    edited February 2023
    WildStar had a lot of good ideas, but I wasn't willing to subscribe for it, and when it did go f2p, it didn't quite click for me. Maybe I was just not in the market for a traditional vertical MMO at the time (still not).
  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    Wildstar was an unmitigated flop.

    It's combat was bad with excessive telegraphing. 

    Not even free to play could save this mess of an unenjoyable game.

    Just look at these sad steam charts numbers:

    https://steamdb.info/app/376570/charts/

    If you are actually interested tho they have a private server for it.



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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,014
    I dont remember much about it tbh.....I remember the combat was a little clunky and a couple of the races looked neat, but other than that it was a forgettable game.
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  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Member RarePosts: 2,483
    when a game says here is your class and here is your weapon its doomed for me from day 1

    who thought of this idea?
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  • jitter77jitter77 Member UncommonPosts: 518
    I think wild star was too hard for alot.  Mobs were super aggressive and you had elites roaming around with them.   You needed a couple people to efficiently do normal quests.  Then they had massive raids when you didn't have the population to support them.  I think if they re released wildstar now it would do better.  When you have games like genshin and lost ark doing well i think wildstar would fit in.   I would certainly give it another go
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  • BrotherMaynardBrotherMaynard Member RarePosts: 647
    I think the devs' expectations and those of the players were not completely aligned.


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  • GroqstrongGroqstrong Member RarePosts: 826
    What a coincidence this article comes out today. I work in a completelty unrelated industry to gaming. By chance a customer walked in yesterday and sat with me and he noticed some of my gaming memorbilia around my office. We briefly talked about games but he mentioed he was too busy to play because hes always making games. I looked him up after he left it was Jon Jelinek, development director for Wildstar. I was bummed I didnt know who he was and that he didnt say he worked on Wildstar one of my fav mmorpgs. I missed the oppportunity to talk about the game and get his insight.

    I can tell you though he so enthusiastic about his craft and he was so interested in the types of games I was playing.
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  • koldmiserkoldmiser Member RarePosts: 353
    I really wanted to love Wildstar. The combat just really didn't click with me. I get what they were trying to do, but it wasn't for me. I kept going back to it over and over.

    They really had the best housing though. I spent a lot of hours with that.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Sovrath said:
    Iselin said:
    It may sound petty but from the beginning, I was put off by Wildstar's overuse of humor.

    I enjoy some humor in games but Wildstar overdid it and when it's overdone it just feels to me like a parody of an MMO from devs who don't take the genre seriously.

    I never got past the open beta or free trial, whatever it was, can't remember,
    I just didn't thin that most of the humor was funny. I  chalk it up to just not being the right demographic for their game.

    That too. It was a Saturday morning cartoon level of goofy humor. If any 5 yr old played it, I'm sure they would have enjoyed it. :)
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  • OldKingLogOldKingLog Member RarePosts: 601
    edited February 2023
    Iselin said:
    It may sound petty but from the beginning, I was put off by Wildstar's overuse of humor.

    I enjoy some humor in games but Wildstar overdid it and when it's overdone it just feels to me like a parody of an MMO from devs who don't take the genre seriously.

    I never got past the open beta or free trial, whatever it was, can't remember,

    The Chuckle Hut second act saccharine comedy, the overly flashy seizure inducing graphic effects, the butt ugly character models, the lukewarm combat, and the bots ... my god the bots ..... not to mention some seriously arrogant and inflexible game developers who just couldn't believe people didn't like their little passion play of a game are what killed the game for me and pretty much everyone else. Played one month, fucked off, never looked back.


  • madazzmadazz Member RarePosts: 2,115
    Wildstar is a game that died because it sucked. It had wonderful graphics (in my opinion) and bad everything else.

    Barely anyone liked it.

    However, now a days a bunch of people pretend they played it and liked it. Its like the new hipster thing in the MMO world. "Let me tell you about this awesome experience you cant have because it was shut down" is they lie they spread.

    Its not true. It was never true. It was a shit game.

    Its funny that not only did it fail in offering raids despite that being its "speciality", it also failed in offering good content regardless of what it was. The content that was there was bad.

    Stop pretending Wildstar was good. Stop pretending you played it. Stop pretending you liked it. If the game was even half as good as the mmo hipsters pretend it was the game would still be around today.

    And yes, I played it. No regrets. But it sucked.
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  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,839
    Man MMORPG still has this major love affair with this game. You guys just cannot let it go. It died years ago and you're still in mourning. Move on. It ain't coming back.
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    I read the article and the attunement and dungeons' difficulty which I never experienced made me think "what the hell were they thinking?" Good lord it's no wonder the game failed.

    I mainly only played till level 35 or 40 and I did 2 dungeons and gave up trying to heal. It was excruciating. I did appreciate that the developers really loved their lore. They put some really obscure scifi references I simply adored finding.

  • madazzmadazz Member RarePosts: 2,115

    Nilden said:

    Wildstar was an unmitigated flop.

    It's combat was bad with excessive telegraphing. 

    Not even free to play could save this mess of an unenjoyable game.

    Just look at these sad steam charts numbers:

    https://steamdb.info/app/376570/charts/

    If you are actually interested tho they have a private server for it.



    https://www.emulator.ws/

    I know I won't ever play it again and don't miss it at all.



    Dude, look up the earning reports lol. Its even worse than the player numbers. The game earned next to nothing compared to literally every other offering the publisher had lol!

    Also, there is no private server. Thats just them TRYING to create one I believe. Unless it suddenly progressed further.

    Either way, the game deserved to die. It wasn't good. And no, it didn't have the best housing. It had the best nothing. Stupid MMO hipsters!
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  • TheRebellionTheRebellion Member UncommonPosts: 48

    madazz said:



    Nilden said:


    Wildstar was an unmitigated flop.

    It's combat was bad with excessive telegraphing. 

    Not even free to play could save this mess of an unenjoyable game.

    Just look at these sad steam charts numbers:

    https://steamdb.info/app/376570/charts/

    If you are actually interested tho they have a private server for it.



    https://www.emulator.ws/

    I know I won't ever play it again and don't miss it at all.






    Dude, look up the earning reports lol. Its even worse than the player numbers. The game earned next to nothing compared to literally every other offering the publisher had lol!



    Also, there is no private server. Thats just them TRYING to create one I believe. Unless it suddenly progressed further.



    Either way, the game deserved to die. It wasn't good. And no, it didn't have the best housing. It had the best nothing. Stupid MMO hipsters!



    You sound overly resentful for some reason. It definitely had some really creative housing and the raids were better than anything WoW or FF14 were offering at the time.

    I enjoyed the combat, even if some people didn't. It felt like a nice hybrid between standard tab-target and action combat, but I understand if someone didn't enjoy all the telegraphed attacks.

    That being said, there were tons of problems with the game from top to bottom, but don't pretend like the entire thing was a pile of shit because that's dishonest.
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  • OG_SolareusOG_Solareus Member RarePosts: 1,041
    edited February 2023
    What I remember was extremely long runs to content. I'm not a mount player so mounts aren't something I normally do unless I find them fun to ride. Non of the mounts for me were fun in Wildstar so I ran everywhere. The land mass was very big and it was kind of a snooze fest.

    Great deal of the content was fed ex, kill # with a sprinkle of story , but at no time was I ever said "this is amazing"...

    The only bright spot imho was the mini-game pvp. I played that the most . THe housing was really awesome too !
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  • lordsmoklordsmok Member UncommonPosts: 75
    awesome combat, very good lore and story, character customization, housing
    best mmo for me, to this day cannot find replacement
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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Slapshot1188 said:
    I dunno. I never really liked the whole Wildstar pitch or setting and didn't much enjoy playing it.

    For me I think Tabula Rasa is that game.

    I'd certainly appreciate more love for Tabula Rasa.  I never actually got around to trying Wildstar.  I never really liked the Wildstar art.  I was probably immersed in EQ1 at the time, in any case.



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  • unfilteredJWunfilteredJW Member RarePosts: 398
    There haven't been better 5 man dungeons in any game before, or since.
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