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Ashes of Creation Alpha 2 Set for Q3 2024, New Archer Preview Out Now | MMORPG.com

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edited December 2023 in News & Features Discussion

imageAshes of Creation Alpha 2 Set for Q3 2024, New Archer Preview Out Now | MMORPG.com

The Ashes of Creation team have closed out their monthly streams of 2023 with a new look at the Ranger and an announcement of the Alpha 2 window.

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  • sabrefoxxsabrefoxx Member UncommonPosts: 245
    This game will finish just before Star Citizen does...
    IceAge
  • BrotherMaynardBrotherMaynard Member RarePosts: 647
    Well, of course it's not "bafflingly so", what a strange idea... As per their earlier announcement, they will be discontinuing their pre-orders (including alpha access) in mid-January. Of course they would make such long-term announcement now, duh!

    I mean, isn't it obvious? "Last chance to buy a pre-order pack if you want to join our next test in 2024!"; just before the holiday season too, what a shocker. Truly baffling.

    (Also, there was quite an advance warning back in 2021 during the last alpha test, so this isn't that unusual. But it's all about the upcoming pre-order deadline anyway, so who cares about the 2021 timeline.)
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,649



    Well, of course it's not "bafflingly so", what a strange idea... As per their earlier announcement, they will be discontinuing their pre-orders (including alpha access) in mid-January. Of course they would make such long-term announcement now, duh!



    I mean, isn't it obvious? "Last chance to buy a pre-order pack if you want to join our next test in 2024!"; just before the holiday season too, what a shocker. Truly baffling.



    (Also, there was quite an advance warning back in 2021 during the last alpha test, so this isn't that unusual. But it's all about the upcoming pre-order deadline anyway, so who cares about the 2021 timeline.)




    If you believe that they are shutting down pre-orders permananetly in Jan I have this bridge I'd like to sell you.
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  • BrotherMaynardBrotherMaynard Member RarePosts: 647



    Well, of course it's not "bafflingly so", what a strange idea... As per their earlier announcement, they will be discontinuing their pre-orders (including alpha access) in mid-January. Of course they would make such long-term announcement now, duh!



    I mean, isn't it obvious? "Last chance to buy a pre-order pack if you want to join our next test in 2024!"; just before the holiday season too, what a shocker. Truly baffling.



    (Also, there was quite an advance warning back in 2021 during the last alpha test, so this isn't that unusual. But it's all about the upcoming pre-order deadline anyway, so who cares about the 2021 timeline.)




    If you believe that they are shutting down pre-orders permananetly in Jan I have this bridge I'd like to sell you.

    Show me.



    Sovrath
  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,485
    sabrefoxx said:
    This game will finish just before Star Citizen does...

    The end of the Universe will happen before Star Citizen leaves alpha.
    Champie
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  • ValdheimValdheim Member RarePosts: 711
    That zone looks gorgeous. Ranger abilities looking fun and all but I really don't like rangers being machine gunners.
    Scotpantaro
  • MensurMensur Member EpicPosts: 1,531
    I have ZERO hype for this game.
    pantaroIceAge

    mmorpg junkie since 1999



  • MaurgrimMaurgrim Member RarePosts: 1,331

    Mensur said:

    I have ZERO hype for this game.



    So why the post?
    NanfoodleKidRisk
  • NoxiousBassNoxiousBass Member UncommonPosts: 259

    Maurgrim said:



    Mensur said:


    I have ZERO hype for this game.






    So why the post?



    Guess it was just an emotional outburst ;)
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,900



    Well, of course it's not "bafflingly so", what a strange idea... As per their earlier announcement, they will be discontinuing their pre-orders (including alpha access) in mid-January. Of course they would make such long-term announcement now, duh!



    I mean, isn't it obvious? "Last chance to buy a pre-order pack if you want to join our next test in 2024!"; just before the holiday season too, what a shocker. Truly baffling.



    (Also, there was quite an advance warning back in 2021 during the last alpha test, so this isn't that unusual. But it's all about the upcoming pre-order deadline anyway, so who cares about the 2021 timeline.)




    If you believe that they are shutting down pre-orders permananetly in Jan I have this bridge I'd like to sell you.
    They are shutting down Alpha packs for now just because they don't need more testers. As testers lose interest, yes they will sell them again. 
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,900
    The Archer does look impressive. They did show off a number of skills but they were from many builds. No archer will have access to all of the skills shown. I'm also not a fan of the mechine gun skill they showed. Really loved the movement skills. 
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,649
    Nanfoodle said:



    Well, of course it's not "bafflingly so", what a strange idea... As per their earlier announcement, they will be discontinuing their pre-orders (including alpha access) in mid-January. Of course they would make such long-term announcement now, duh!



    I mean, isn't it obvious? "Last chance to buy a pre-order pack if you want to join our next test in 2024!"; just before the holiday season too, what a shocker. Truly baffling.



    (Also, there was quite an advance warning back in 2021 during the last alpha test, so this isn't that unusual. But it's all about the upcoming pre-order deadline anyway, so who cares about the 2021 timeline.)




    If you believe that they are shutting down pre-orders permananetly in Jan I have this bridge I'd like to sell you.
    They are shutting down Alpha packs for now just because they don't need more testers. As testers lose interest, yes they will sell them again. 
    Hint-  They arent selling packs today "because they need more testers".  They are selling the packs to make Stephen money.  They have a history of pushing FOMO to drive sales.  They will reconfigure it.  Rename it.  but at the end of the day, they will sell access again before this test next year.
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,900
    Nanfoodle said:



    Well, of course it's not "bafflingly so", what a strange idea... As per their earlier announcement, they will be discontinuing their pre-orders (including alpha access) in mid-January. Of course they would make such long-term announcement now, duh!



    I mean, isn't it obvious? "Last chance to buy a pre-order pack if you want to join our next test in 2024!"; just before the holiday season too, what a shocker. Truly baffling.



    (Also, there was quite an advance warning back in 2021 during the last alpha test, so this isn't that unusual. But it's all about the upcoming pre-order deadline anyway, so who cares about the 2021 timeline.)




    If you believe that they are shutting down pre-orders permananetly in Jan I have this bridge I'd like to sell you.
    They are shutting down Alpha packs for now just because they don't need more testers. As testers lose interest, yes they will sell them again. 
    Hint-  They arent selling packs today "because they need more testers".  They are selling the packs to make Stephen money.  They have a history of pushing FOMO to drive sales.  They will reconfigure it.  Rename it.  but at the end of the day, they will sell access again before this test next year.
    You speak a little but of truth. Steven is running a business but FOMO is not the problem. Steven running a business is not going to sell more seats then they have space because that would be bad business and cuse distrust on a level it would hurt their business.

    What I said is true. They are 100% running out of space for more Alpha 2 players. It's also true, they will not need to name it something else. When they need more testers they will just sell the same packs they have been to get Alpha 2 access. They have closed and opened this door more then once.

    Sure they are looking to make money but that's not the whole picture lol
  • PonziniPonzini Member UncommonPosts: 534



    Nanfoodle said:









    Well, of course it's not "bafflingly so", what a strange idea... As per their earlier announcement, they will be discontinuing their pre-orders (including alpha access) in mid-January. Of course they would make such long-term announcement now, duh!





    I mean, isn't it obvious? "Last chance to buy a pre-order pack if you want to join our next test in 2024!"; just before the holiday season too, what a shocker. Truly baffling.





    (Also, there was quite an advance warning back in 2021 during the last alpha test, so this isn't that unusual. But it's all about the upcoming pre-order deadline anyway, so who cares about the 2021 timeline.)








    If you believe that they are shutting down pre-orders permananetly in Jan I have this bridge I'd like to sell you.



    They are shutting down Alpha packs for now just because they don't need more testers. As testers lose interest, yes they will sell them again. 


    Hint-  They arent selling packs today "because they need more testers".  They are selling the packs to make Stephen money.  They have a history of pushing FOMO to drive sales.  They will reconfigure it.  Rename it.  but at the end of the day, they will sell access again before this test next year.



    Hint - Game development takes money. It is a catch 22 situation. Either you sell cosmetic packs and you guys shit on them or you sell to Tencent or other investors and they force you to add pay to win and they still get shit on.

    Gamers think developers should be making games for non profit out of the goodness of their hearts or something.
    Sensai
  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,485

    Maurgrim said:



    Mensur said:


    I have ZERO hype for this game.






    So why the post?



    Guess it was just an emotional outburst ;)

    It's getting close to Festivus for the rest of us. This is the prequel to the airing of grievances.
    Sovrath
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    Elder Jedi/Elder Bounty Hunter
     
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    Ponzini said:



    Nanfoodle said:









    Well, of course it's not "bafflingly so", what a strange idea... As per their earlier announcement, they will be discontinuing their pre-orders (including alpha access) in mid-January. Of course they would make such long-term announcement now, duh!





    I mean, isn't it obvious? "Last chance to buy a pre-order pack if you want to join our next test in 2024!"; just before the holiday season too, what a shocker. Truly baffling.





    (Also, there was quite an advance warning back in 2021 during the last alpha test, so this isn't that unusual. But it's all about the upcoming pre-order deadline anyway, so who cares about the 2021 timeline.)








    If you believe that they are shutting down pre-orders permananetly in Jan I have this bridge I'd like to sell you.



    They are shutting down Alpha packs for now just because they don't need more testers. As testers lose interest, yes they will sell them again. 


    Hint-  They arent selling packs today "because they need more testers".  They are selling the packs to make Stephen money.  They have a history of pushing FOMO to drive sales.  They will reconfigure it.  Rename it.  but at the end of the day, they will sell access again before this test next year.



    Hint - Game development takes money. It is a catch 22 situation. Either you sell cosmetic packs and you guys shit on them or you sell to Tencent or other investors and they force you to add pay to win and they still get shit on.

    Gamers think developers should be making games for non profit out of the goodness of their hearts or something.
    But wait, fans often say Ashes is being totally self funded by Steven personally, most recent figures I've seen is up to $50M even.

    So they don't even need the money apparently....or so some seem to believe.


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  • Phoenix_HawkPhoenix_Hawk Member UncommonPosts: 298
    Look, it's fantasy Star Citizen! The other game that may never be released, and has a community that doesn't seem to care, or accept that.
  • PonziniPonzini Member UncommonPosts: 534

    Kyleran said:


    Ponzini said:







    Nanfoodle said:















    Well, of course it's not "bafflingly so", what a strange idea... As per their earlier announcement, they will be discontinuing their pre-orders (including alpha access) in mid-January. Of course they would make such long-term announcement now, duh!







    I mean, isn't it obvious? "Last chance to buy a pre-order pack if you want to join our next test in 2024!"; just before the holiday season too, what a shocker. Truly baffling.







    (Also, there was quite an advance warning back in 2021 during the last alpha test, so this isn't that unusual. But it's all about the upcoming pre-order deadline anyway, so who cares about the 2021 timeline.)












    If you believe that they are shutting down pre-orders permananetly in Jan I have this bridge I'd like to sell you.






    They are shutting down Alpha packs for now just because they don't need more testers. As testers lose interest, yes they will sell them again. 




    Hint-  They arent selling packs today "because they need more testers".  They are selling the packs to make Stephen money.  They have a history of pushing FOMO to drive sales.  They will reconfigure it.  Rename it.  but at the end of the day, they will sell access again before this test next year.






    Hint - Game development takes money. It is a catch 22 situation. Either you sell cosmetic packs and you guys shit on them or you sell to Tencent or other investors and they force you to add pay to win and they still get shit on.



    Gamers think developers should be making games for non profit out of the goodness of their hearts or something.


    But wait, fans often say Ashes is being totally self funded by Steven personally, most recent figures I've seen is up to $50M even.

    So they don't even need the money apparently....or so some seem to believe.





    You know its possible to be both right? He is funding it out of his own pocket as well as using the money from kickstarter and cosmetic packs. Is this really complicated?
    pantaro
  • PonziniPonzini Member UncommonPosts: 534


    Look, it's fantasy Star Citizen! The other game that may never be released, and has a community that doesn't seem to care, or accept that.



    Same NPC response in every thread. Did you know that 100% of games may not be released until they are? Crazy right?
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,649
    Ponzini said:

    Kyleran said:


    Ponzini said:







    Nanfoodle said:















    Well, of course it's not "bafflingly so", what a strange idea... As per their earlier announcement, they will be discontinuing their pre-orders (including alpha access) in mid-January. Of course they would make such long-term announcement now, duh!







    I mean, isn't it obvious? "Last chance to buy a pre-order pack if you want to join our next test in 2024!"; just before the holiday season too, what a shocker. Truly baffling.







    (Also, there was quite an advance warning back in 2021 during the last alpha test, so this isn't that unusual. But it's all about the upcoming pre-order deadline anyway, so who cares about the 2021 timeline.)












    If you believe that they are shutting down pre-orders permananetly in Jan I have this bridge I'd like to sell you.






    They are shutting down Alpha packs for now just because they don't need more testers. As testers lose interest, yes they will sell them again. 




    Hint-  They arent selling packs today "because they need more testers".  They are selling the packs to make Stephen money.  They have a history of pushing FOMO to drive sales.  They will reconfigure it.  Rename it.  but at the end of the day, they will sell access again before this test next year.






    Hint - Game development takes money. It is a catch 22 situation. Either you sell cosmetic packs and you guys shit on them or you sell to Tencent or other investors and they force you to add pay to win and they still get shit on.



    Gamers think developers should be making games for non profit out of the goodness of their hearts or something.


    But wait, fans often say Ashes is being totally self funded by Steven personally, most recent figures I've seen is up to $50M even.

    So they don't even need the money apparently....or so some seem to believe.





    You know it’s possible to be both right? He is funding it out of his own pocket as well as using the money from kickstarter and cosmetic packs. Is this really complicated?
    It’s not possible to totally self fund something and also use external money. That’s kind of self-explanatory.


    KyleranSensai

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  • PonziniPonzini Member UncommonPosts: 534



    Ponzini said:



    Kyleran said:




    Ponzini said:











    Nanfoodle said:





















    Well, of course it's not "bafflingly so", what a strange idea... As per their earlier announcement, they will be discontinuing their pre-orders (including alpha access) in mid-January. Of course they would make such long-term announcement now, duh!









    I mean, isn't it obvious? "Last chance to buy a pre-order pack if you want to join our next test in 2024!"; just before the holiday season too, what a shocker. Truly baffling.









    (Also, there was quite an advance warning back in 2021 during the last alpha test, so this isn't that unusual. But it's all about the upcoming pre-order deadline anyway, so who cares about the 2021 timeline.)
















    If you believe that they are shutting down pre-orders permananetly in Jan I have this bridge I'd like to sell you.









    They are shutting down Alpha packs for now just because they don't need more testers. As testers lose interest, yes they will sell them again. 






    Hint-  They arent selling packs today "because they need more testers".  They are selling the packs to make Stephen money.  They have a history of pushing FOMO to drive sales.  They will reconfigure it.  Rename it.  but at the end of the day, they will sell access again before this test next year.









    Hint - Game development takes money. It is a catch 22 situation. Either you sell cosmetic packs and you guys shit on them or you sell to Tencent or other investors and they force you to add pay to win and they still get shit on.





    Gamers think developers should be making games for non profit out of the goodness of their hearts or something.




    But wait, fans often say Ashes is being totally self funded by Steven personally, most recent figures I've seen is up to $50M even.

    So they don't even need the money apparently....or so some seem to believe.








    You know it’s possible to be both right? He is funding it out of his own pocket as well as using the money from kickstarter and cosmetic packs. Is this really complicated?


    It’s not possible to totally self fund something and also use external money. That’s kind of self-explanatory.





    You count game cosmetic sales as external money? So was he never allowed to do pre orders either? No one else but Steven is funding this game. The rest of the money is coming from customers. Surely you dont count customers as investors, right?
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,900
    edited December 2023
    Ponzini said:

    Kyleran said:


    Ponzini said:







    Nanfoodle said:















    Well, of course it's not "bafflingly so", what a strange idea... As per their earlier announcement, they will be discontinuing their pre-orders (including alpha access) in mid-January. Of course they would make such long-term announcement now, duh!







    I mean, isn't it obvious? "Last chance to buy a pre-order pack if you want to join our next test in 2024!"; just before the holiday season too, what a shocker. Truly baffling.







    (Also, there was quite an advance warning back in 2021 during the last alpha test, so this isn't that unusual. But it's all about the upcoming pre-order deadline anyway, so who cares about the 2021 timeline.)












    If you believe that they are shutting down pre-orders permananetly in Jan I have this bridge I'd like to sell you.






    They are shutting down Alpha packs for now just because they don't need more testers. As testers lose interest, yes they will sell them again. 




    Hint-  They arent selling packs today "because they need more testers".  They are selling the packs to make Stephen money.  They have a history of pushing FOMO to drive sales.  They will reconfigure it.  Rename it.  but at the end of the day, they will sell access again before this test next year.






    Hint - Game development takes money. It is a catch 22 situation. Either you sell cosmetic packs and you guys shit on them or you sell to Tencent or other investors and they force you to add pay to win and they still get shit on.



    Gamers think developers should be making games for non profit out of the goodness of their hearts or something.


    But wait, fans often say Ashes is being totally self funded by Steven personally, most recent figures I've seen is up to $50M even.

    So they don't even need the money apparently....or so some seem to believe.





    You know it’s possible to be both right? He is funding it out of his own pocket as well as using the money from kickstarter and cosmetic packs. Is this really complicated?
    It’s not possible to totally self fund something and also use external money. That’s kind of self-explanatory.


    It's like I can use my money and an investors money to build a business. In this case the investors are the gamers don't make profit. :D
    Kyleran
  • PonziniPonzini Member UncommonPosts: 534

    Nanfoodle said:




    Ponzini said:



    Kyleran said:




    Ponzini said:











    Nanfoodle said:





















    Well, of course it's not "bafflingly so", what a strange idea... As per their earlier announcement, they will be discontinuing their pre-orders (including alpha access) in mid-January. Of course they would make such long-term announcement now, duh!









    I mean, isn't it obvious? "Last chance to buy a pre-order pack if you want to join our next test in 2024!"; just before the holiday season too, what a shocker. Truly baffling.









    (Also, there was quite an advance warning back in 2021 during the last alpha test, so this isn't that unusual. But it's all about the upcoming pre-order deadline anyway, so who cares about the 2021 timeline.)
















    If you believe that they are shutting down pre-orders permananetly in Jan I have this bridge I'd like to sell you.









    They are shutting down Alpha packs for now just because they don't need more testers. As testers lose interest, yes they will sell them again. 






    Hint-  They arent selling packs today "because they need more testers".  They are selling the packs to make Stephen money.  They have a history of pushing FOMO to drive sales.  They will reconfigure it.  Rename it.  but at the end of the day, they will sell access again before this test next year.









    Hint - Game development takes money. It is a catch 22 situation. Either you sell cosmetic packs and you guys shit on them or you sell to Tencent or other investors and they force you to add pay to win and they still get shit on.





    Gamers think developers should be making games for non profit out of the goodness of their hearts or something.




    But wait, fans often say Ashes is being totally self funded by Steven personally, most recent figures I've seen is up to $50M even.

    So they don't even need the money apparently....or so some seem to believe.








    You know it’s possible to be both right? He is funding it out of his own pocket as well as using the money from kickstarter and cosmetic packs. Is this really complicated?


    It’s not possible to totally self fund something and also use external money. That’s kind of self-explanatory.




    It's like I can use my money and an investors money to build a business. In this case the investors are the gamers don't make profit. :D



    Yeah they get their cosmetics, early access, and game access as ordered. Just a very early pre order. When I pre order a game it doesnt mean I funded it. Still self funded by Steven.
    Nanfoodle
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,649
    edited December 2023
    Ponzini said:

    Nanfoodle said:




    It's like I can use my money and an investors money to build a business. In this case the investors are the gamers don't make profit. :D



    Yeah they get their cosmetics, early access, and game access as ordered. Just a very early pre order. When I pre order a game it doesnt mean I funded it. Still self funded by Steven.
    You definitely do not understand what SELF funded means. 
    See, SELF Funding means only YOU fund the game.
    CROWD funding is when you convince other suckers to pay you to make the game and use THEIR funds, plus maybe your own, to maybe make a game

    But thats OK John.  You and Stephen have fun.



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  • RyukanRyukan Member UncommonPosts: 858

    sabrefoxx said:

    This game will finish just before Star Citizen does...



    And they will both release before Pantheon Rise of the Fallen ever gets out of Alpha.
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