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The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power Season 2 Is Off To A Great Start: Episodes 1-3 Review | MM

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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,057
    For me the problem isn't just that the showrunners want to change a lot of things in their adaptations.  It's that they often dislike the source material and feel they can do better.  And they always fail in that regard.

    Why adapt The Witcher if you don't like the books/stories?  And as a content provider why hire showrunners that feel that way?  Beyond that, the content providers spend hundreds of millions on these adaptations but hire unproven showrunners.

    I think it's fair to say that the showrunners of The Witcher, The Wheel of Time and Rings of Power all produced stories that aren't close to doing the source material justice.  And in most cases the changes they made to the source material resulted in less interesting material.

    Of those three I've only stuck with The Wheel of Time.  And I can't say I remember much from it or am excited for the next season.

    The Rings of Power have completely botched the characters of Sauron and Galadriel to the point where I can't watch the show anymore.  I'm going to guess that Amazon forced them to include Hobbits(Harfoots).  And frankly they have no business being there.


      
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,649
    Wargfoot said:


    If the original IP cannot be honored, they should create a new one.
    Create all you want - but label it honestly.

    This is always my fundamental complaint.  If you feel the need to make massive changes to something... why not just make something new?

    Time after time folks pay for rights to a project that they then butcher and cause fan anger.   And the IP rights aren't cheap.  Amazon paid over a quarter of a BILLION just for the rights.

    Damnit man... I do NOT want to see the Gollum Chronicles or anything like that.  You know how many NEW TV shows could have been created for the price of the rights and 16 episodes of Rings of Power?  That's over a BILLION spent. The WItcher and WoT cost $10M an episode.   That means we could have had a hundred episodes of big budget new Fantasy or Sci fi created.  Probably more if they laid in some fresh/self-developed properties. Sure, a bunch of those would have failed, but maybe they would have launched a few NEW franchises by doing that.

    If you want to make a ton of changes anyhow, why not just try a few new concepts?  I mean, The Ark show has super lame writing and story development that makes me feel like it's a High School drama assignment but it's NEW and I watch it with no prejudice. Or something like Stargate that was an original IP/movie and spawned a ridiculous amounts of future movies, TV shows and novels.  Star Wars was a fresh idea (or at least repackaged).

    Go create something NEW!



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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,649
    So I find this headline from the IGN review of Wicked to be very interesting...


    "A dazzling adaptation of one of Broadway’s most beloved musicals brings Stephen Schwartz’s Wicked Witch of the West origin story to brilliant life on screen with clear care for its source material."

    Now I haven't the slightest interest in Wicked but it's curious that now, being faithful to source material is a positive, yet other times from the very same publication, they give high marks for updating and changing source material.  Heck, I don't even know if it's true and if it's faithful at all.  But I found it interesting and on-topic here that now reviewers see valuing the source material as a good thing.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,933


    Go create something NEW!



    They want to eat their cake and have it too. They want to have the name recognition, the built in audience but then they want to flex their creative muscles. The problem is that sometimes there's a lot of ego there.

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,423
    Wargfoot said:
    Plus, Sovrath.. you are a philistine and a thought criminal. (1)



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  • waveslayerwaveslayer Member UncommonPosts: 607
    one thing I have learned in life, regardless of which direction ones goes on anything, someone will find a reason to complain
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  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,458
    one thing I have learned in life, regardless of which direction ones goes on anything, someone will find a reason to complain
    This post is unacceptable.
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  • Elidien_gaElidien_ga Member UncommonPosts: 408
    Wargfoot said:
    one thing I have learned in life, regardless of which direction ones goes on anything, someone will find a reason to complain
    This post is unacceptable.
    I find you not accepting this post unacceptable. :)
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  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,458
    Wargfoot said:
    one thing I have learned in life, regardless of which direction ones goes on anything, someone will find a reason to complain
    This post is unacceptable.
    I find you not accepting this post unacceptable. :)
    ...and this is now a typical discussion on MMORPG.  :)
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,649
    Wargfoot said:
    Wargfoot said:
    one thing I have learned in life, regardless of which direction ones goes on anything, someone will find a reason to complain
    This post is unacceptable.
    I find you not accepting this post unacceptable. :)
    ...and this is now a typical discussion on MMORPG.  :)
    Not until someone mentions Star Citizen…
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  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,053
    Wargfoot said:
    Wargfoot said:
    one thing I have learned in life, regardless of which direction ones goes on anything, someone will find a reason to complain
    This post is unacceptable.
    I find you not accepting this post unacceptable. :)
    ...and this is now a typical discussion on MMORPG.  :)
    Not until someone mentions Star Citizen…
    Ok, you went ahead and mentioned it. Now what are we 'sposed to do?

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,649
    olepi said:
    Wargfoot said:
    Wargfoot said:
    one thing I have learned in life, regardless of which direction ones goes on anything, someone will find a reason to complain
    This post is unacceptable.
    I find you not accepting this post unacceptable. :)
    ...and this is now a typical discussion on MMORPG.  :)
    Not until someone mentions Star Citizen…
    Ok, you went ahead and mentioned it. Now what are we 'sposed to do?
    Compare the budgets of Star Citizen and Rings of Power… obviously:)

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