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The last hope for the MMO genre

LamethrowerLamethrower Member Posts: 82
At least for me.  I started way back in the days of Door games, MajorMUD, T-Lord...onto Meridian 59, UO, EQ1 Lineage...fast forward a few titles...AC1, a number of games not even worth mentioning (think games that did as well as Earth & Beyond)...fast forward to SWG, EQ2, WoW...all of them a disappointment (though profitable.  Still can't believe some schmuck actually gave me 1400 dollars for my decked 60 rogue more than 2 months after launch when we had all gone more than a month with the realization there was nothing to do :P) .  Pinned my hopes on DDO...trash.

LotR is gonna bomb--it's made by the same people who made that garbage DDO.  Pirates of the Burning Sea has "some" hope to it...if it ever gets released.  Then this one gets announced.  One of the all-time great TV franchises in MMO form.  Unlimited possibilities.  No elves or dwarves, no longswords or daggers.   If this game can't succeed and be the MMO every MMO before it wasn't, then the genre just has no hope and can't succeed in my opinion.  Everyone pointed to WoW as the game that had the potential to be the best MMO ever...its potential doesn't hold a candle to what SG:  O can be.  Gotta be a ton of pressure on the devs, which must suck, but that's just how it is.

One way or another, this is going to be the last MMO I play for a long, LONG time.  I'm too old to constantly hop games trying to find one that's worth a damn.

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  • EvelknievelEvelknievel Member UncommonPosts: 2,964

    agreed..

    Has the possibilites of being one of the greats for a few years, if done right.

  • DS_K7DS_K7 Member Posts: 266
    What about Star Trek Online? That one seems like its going to go over very well, as long as Sony doesnt touch it....

  • balle68balle68 Member Posts: 134

    Hehe PvP weirdo!

    Always do the right thing

  • Fenrir767Fenrir767 Member Posts: 595
    This game could easily be one of the best MMORPG's out there. Were talking for the most part real technology guns etc. This game has the chance to be skill based and not time spent playing/item based. Which I would love to see and the possibilites with the SG teams, the spaceships its endless. This game is in a sence has the possibilty of being what SWG never was. It would be nice to see someone that is level 1 actually be able to fight someone that is level 20 on somewhat even footing since they are both using p90's or something. The potential is there I just hope it gets done right

  • WBadgerWBadger Member RarePosts: 381

    this actually will probably be somewhat similar to swg....cept better

    for me i think its gonna be fun flying around in a X302....which they better let us do.or ina  glider.

  • DS_K7DS_K7 Member Posts: 266
    I wouldnt mind serving on the Prometheus...or fly a Al'Kesh bomber

  • BaddasseBaddasse Member Posts: 13
    I have serious hopes and do believe that this game will by far be the greatest ever made. It had all the tools of to be believe me.
  • awozawoz Member Posts: 48
    I must say I greatly hope that the DEV's pay attention to what people are saying.
    There is a great deal of good stuff on these forums.
    But why is it, or so it seems, they contuinue to fail to learn from past mistakes?

    I am so very hopeful this game will be good. Please, please make it good OH PLEASE.
    Take the best things from all the good games, Lineage II, Eve-online, the original Ultima, and make the game that will break the whole market wide open and just be incredible.
    Please?


  • Fenrir767Fenrir767 Member Posts: 595
    I hope they do. The one thing I really don't want to see is a lot of item cutomization in this I mean its stargate I don't want to see people running around with p90's of the wolf or some crap like that. I really hope the game is skill based and not level based. It would be much more fun to really roleplay Stargate then to have some level based game.

  • awozawoz Member Posts: 48
    I agree  with you 1000%.
    I am playing Lineage II now, and it is a great game.
    But it's a level grind, you know? Go out and kill monsters at or above your level over and over and over for hours to gain a level.
    Perhaps I'm missing something but....

    EVE has the best system, for me, I've ever seen. You can learn skills over time and you don't have to be logged on. In concept it works very well.
    My only thought would be to have a hybrid system so that if a person WANTED to do certain tasks in game, say special missions, they could decrease the time to learn certain skills.

    For instance, in EVE, it might take you one full month of training to reach Battleship level 5. Well, ok, but what if you could make that 3 weeks by doing a mission that was hard, but not impossible, that might take you several days of work?
    So you can accelerate your training, but it's still not a "level grind" like say Lineage II is.





  • thegowchthegowch Member Posts: 18


    Originally posted by awoz

    EVE has the best system, for me, I've ever seen. You can learn skills over time and you don't have to be logged on. In concept it works very well.
    My only thought would be to have a hybrid system so that if a person WANTED to do certain tasks in game, say special missions, they could decrease the time to learn certain skills.





    Personally I loathe the Eve concept. The game itself looks great. I was tempted to try it at one point, but I think their experience system is a rip-off. If I learn how to play a game and invest time in it, I want that to mean something. Everyone getting the same experience at the same rate no matter what you do?? It also essentially means that no matter what you do, you've almost no hope of catching up to older players.

    And if I recall properly if you ever cancel your subscription, it's back to square one?

    I always thought this game bordered on being a scam. Eve has always looked to be an awesome game to me, except for this one feature. I will never play a game that copies it.

  • awozawoz Member Posts: 48
    Well it is true that you can't "catch up" to older players unless .... you get an older account somehow.

    Otherwise you are just one more little fish in a big sea with all the 35 million to 40+ million skill point people running around. Wander into 0.0 space and come up against one of those alone and you are toast.

    But that's only important if you are a solo player. Several good noobs can destroy and old player with the right ships and ships equipment.
    The setup of equipement is the great equalizer in PVP.

    But in manufacturing, misson running, research etc. it takes HUGE amounts of time, many months, to get the skills where you can do anything interesting, for me. Having a few of the 100 million a pop rare skills makes all the difference, and some of them would take an entire MONTH just to train up to lvl five.

    So the people who have been there from day one have a very huge advantage, hence many people will pay a lot for an account, which is illegal, then they get banned, etc.
    That part sucks.




  • niksaniksa Member Posts: 52
    This game has a lot of potential. The tv series is fairly popular with both hardcore sci-fi fans and also casual viewers. This is a good bonus for it.


    I think this has a lot of promise, and so I'm pretty excited and I'll definitely keep it in mind when it comes out. I mean, granted, we haven't really learned all that much about it... but the setting alone is worth the attention.


    Now, will it match my expectations for Age of Conan? For Star Trek Online? Hero's Journey? I don't know. We'll see.. But I'll be damned if I'm going to play WoW again. I'm done with that kind of shallow gameplay.

    -Niksa

    Looking for a real game.

  • magedragonmagedragon Member Posts: 3
    I just hope its not another letdown. The last game I liked this much was RFO. Well....we all see how that went. >.>

    This has got to be, by far, my favorite story setting, movie, AND TV series. If I can get a game in there too...I might never leave my house. o_O

    If it bombs though...well, lets not go there.


  • plateau01plateau01 Member Posts: 86
    Has potential but thus far is the concept art and the quality of the website is anything to go by (and frankly that's about all we have to go by) then I won't be holding my breath.
  • KertKert Member UncommonPosts: 71

    Concept art is concept art. Its an artist rendition. It doesn't mean much. Go look at the Star Trek: Online concept art, all done by the fella who's been doing it for the Star Trek franchise for years, Andy Probert.

    I think the Stargate MMO has the chance to be a fantastic leap forward. Problem is most the companies talk about their high standards and their wish to create a groundbreaking game, and after about 6 months, just worry about making money at the expense of consumer's who've invested a fair chunk of money and time into the game.

    In general the industry quality is getting poorer and poorer every year. If an automaker produced a car with 50% of the claimed features unusable they'd have a shitstorm of criticism and lawsuits. Software on the other hand... they can't be touched and people keep buying, or have to buy in some instances (microsoft products).

    Get used to it.

  • Gun.GriffinGun.Griffin Member Posts: 4
    Look at star wars it had endless posilbilities and it was a flop. The mmo genre is only going to expand into every home with the next generation consoles. Why, because the genre allows for players to influence a world other players are on. Everyone has a competetive edge and with expanding brandband and every new game on the consoles due to support online play MMO's are the next evolution in games.

  • NasherUKNasherUK Member UncommonPosts: 480
    *checks for SOE infection*

    Yep, this game might be worth a try ;)


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