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Vuuarr states: "I need your energy to counter the attack on MMORPG.com"

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  • -Inferno--Inferno- Staff WriterMember UncommonPosts: 325

    I gave DnL the review it deserves: DnL sucks, don't buy it! *red alert, red alert - scam detected* There Vuuar - my revenge for all the wasted hours I spent helping to build your community. May DnL burn to ashes and rest in pieces on the MMOG graveyard. Even the already failed MMOGs to date were better than DnL will ever be.


    "Fire is never a gentle master..."

  • AnagethAnageth Member Posts: 2,217


    Originally posted by -Inferno-
    I gave DnL the review it deserves: DnL sucks, don't but it! *red alert, red alert - scam detected* There Vuuar - my revenge for all the wasted hours I spent helping to build your community. May DnL burn to ashes and rest in pieces on the MMOG graveyard. Even the already failed MMOGs to date were better than DnL will ever be.

    I remember when you told me to stay away, when you left CM and gave it to AutumnKiss and joined as news reporter...shame I didn't listen.

    No longer visiting MMORPG.com.

  • KilimKilim Member Posts: 546
    In a few days, if we do not get an answer, someone needs to repost the question about the IRC Chat to remind Serpico to give us an answer.

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  • -Inferno--Inferno- Staff WriterMember UncommonPosts: 325
    Originally posted by Anageth

    Originally posted by -Inferno-
    I gave DnL the review it deserves: DnL sucks, don't but it! *red alert, red alert - scam detected* There Vuuar - my revenge for all the wasted hours I spent helping to build your community. May DnL burn to ashes and rest in pieces on the MMOG graveyard. Even the already failed MMOGs to date were better than DnL will ever be.
    I remember when you told me to stay away, when you left CM and gave it to AutumnKiss and joined as news reporter...shame I didn't listen.

    *smiles* I guess you had to make my experiences aswell to come to the conclusion that DnL does not deserve volunteering time for it. I wonder if Lepidus needs a reviewer for DnL - I'd volunteer for that

    "Fire is never a gentle master..."

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by Kilim
    In a few days, if we do not get an answer, someone needs to repost the question about the IRC Chat to remind Serpico to give us an answer.



    Plz Kilim, do you honestly believe you will get an honest answer if he indeed say that? After seeing the reaction to it, he would be a total idiot to post yes its true. This is ridiculous.
  • KilimKilim Member Posts: 546


    Originally posted by Cholayna

    Originally posted by Kilim
    In a few days, if we do not get an answer, someone needs to repost the question about the IRC Chat to remind Serpico to give us an answer.


    Plz Kilim, do you honestly believe you will get an honest answer if he indeed say that? After seeing the reaction to it, he would be a total idiot to post yes its true. This is ridiculous.


    TBH.
    I don't even expect them to answer it.
    I actually expect them to lock the thread and hopefully be lost in the spam and forgotten.
    Then they may then consider anyone talking about it again "Necroing" a post.

    That is what I expect them to be doing.

    But hey, you never know.

    Like I said before.
    I am still waiting for the answer from Serpico to why Refundees can still login to D&L.

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  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by Kilim

    Originally posted by Cholayna

    Originally posted by Kilim
    In a few days, if we do not get an answer, someone needs to repost the question about the IRC Chat to remind Serpico to give us an answer.


    Plz Kilim, do you honestly believe you will get an honest answer if he indeed say that? After seeing the reaction to it, he would be a total idiot to post yes its true. This is ridiculous.


    TBH.
    I don't even expect them to answer it.
    I actually expect them to lock the thread and hopefully be lost in the spam and forgotten.
    Then they may then consider anyone talking about it again "Necroing" a post.

    That is what I expect them to be doing.

    But hey, you never know.

    Like I said before.
    I am still waiting for the answer from Serpico to why Refundees can still login to D&L.


    ahhh the old Ignore it , it will go away..... LOL GAWD I LOVE THIS FORUM!!
  • NSberserkNSberserk Member Posts: 77
    Cut and paste from the other post about this subject:

    Just for your information:

    TempusFugit, one of the guys that you
    can see on the screenshot of the logs has posted on the french forum
    JeuxOnline to say that he was not asked wether or not his name could
    appear on this screen, and feels offended to appear against his will.
    Concerning the screenshot itself, he refuses to comment wether it is real or a forge...

    But I guess now WE know.

    http://forums.jeuxonline.info/showthread.php?p=12064960#post12064960




  • PeaCeePeaCee Member Posts: 67
    This game is a pieace of shit and no ammount of forum spammage will change that.

  • indiramournindiramourn Member UncommonPosts: 884


    Originally posted by Kilim

    Like I said before.
    I am still waiting for the answer from Serpico to why Refundees can still login to D&L.


    The devs don't even know the answer to this question, Kilim.  How would you expect poor, Serpico, to know?


  • Originally posted by indiramourn

    Originally posted by Kilim

    Like I said before.
    I am still waiting for the answer from Serpico to why Refundees can still login to D&L.

    The devs don't even know the answer to this question, Kilim.  How would you expect poor, Serpico, to know?


    LOLOLOL
  • KilimKilim Member Posts: 546


    Originally posted by indiramourn

    Originally posted by Kilim

    Like I said before.
    I am still waiting for the answer from Serpico to why Refundees can still login to D&L.

    The devs don't even know the answer to this question, Kilim.  How would you expect poor, Serpico, to know?




    True ... but hey, wishful thinking?

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  • KilimKilim Member Posts: 546

    UPDATE:

    http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=63501&page=2&pp=20
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    Thread reopened now that I have the infos : Vuaar indeed said that, confirmed by Vuaar himself.


    Some lines are missing in this log - his intent was the following:
    basically, he asked players to go vote on MMORPG.com, stating that even
    if - to his opinion, as he precised - DnL was not deserving a 10, it
    was not deserving a 3 either.


    Can someone reply back in the thread linked above with the original post in this thread with teh full IRC CHat log then to show Serpico and everyone the "Some lines missing in this log".







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  • PoulpePoulpe Member Posts: 19
    Erf, I've just opened a thread asking MMORPG.com's official position concerning this event.

  • KilimKilim Member Posts: 546
    And you guys doubt we will get an answer 

    (TBH I doubted we will actually get an answer also, specially teh answer we just got!)



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  • tetsultetsul Member Posts: 1,020

    Now that it's been confirmed I can say that has to be one of the weirdest things I've ever heard from a dev.

    Why do I get visions that in Vuuarr's office there's a bulletin board with a hierarchy of posters from here like the FBI does with mob families? Probably has Kilim rated at the same level as the Godfather, and I probably rate the same as some street thug's mistress. Bah.

  • ZorbaneZorbane Member UncommonPosts: 529


    Originally posted by tetsul

    Now that it's been confirmed I can say that has to be one of the weirdest things I've ever heard from a dev.
    Why do I get visions that in Vuuarr's office there's a bulletin board with a hierarchy of posters from here like the FBI does with mob families? Probably has Kilim rated at the same level as the Godfather, and I probably rate the same as some street thug's mistress. Bah.



    hey nothing's wrong with being a street thug's mistress

    better than being DnL fanboi

  • ValharanValharan Member Posts: 190
    Zorbane is the polite assassin over there. Always polite and always appears helpful yet gets more hate than me and im caustic most of the time.
  • KilimKilim Member Posts: 546


    Originally posted by tetsul

    Now that it's been confirmed I can say that has to be one of the weirdest things I've ever heard from a dev.
    Why do I get visions that in Vuuarr's office there's a bulletin board with a hierarchy of posters from here like the FBI does with mob families? Probably has Kilim rated at the same level as the Godfather, and I probably rate as some street thug's mistress. Bah.


    Funny thing is I am now serving my 2nd Perma-Ban from the Official D&L forums made by Serpico.

    I just do not get it when all I ever posted in that forum are facts followed by quotes with links.

    I can easily name 10 people that breaks their beloved Forum Rules worst than ANYTHING I have ever posted.


    Because teh diffrence between those people and me is this.
    I post FACTS and NOT trollism, conspiracy theories, or assumptions.
    Because there is nothing more that I hate in life than LIARS.



    PS:
    I feel honored to be considered D&L Hateboi "Godfather" lol.

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  • NSberserkNSberserk Member Posts: 77
    A fanboy that should have been banned 3 days saw his ban suspended after 2 days because 5 fanboys asked for it.
    That and the fact that guy is a friend of Vuuar doing guerilla marketing.
    Check for his nick: Calcineur.



  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    I can only bow with respect to Vuuarr.  French is my main language.

    What you obviously fails to understand is...He want peoples to come here to talk POSITIVELY about the game.  The guy is devastated by what happen here and is really hoping to make stuff better.  The tone of his message would pretty much be like if John Smedley would be saying, to his staff, please go to that site in your free time, talk with them, give them a better idea.  Now there is 1 big difference, Culturally SoE doesn't need to do that, a French company might understand some level of english, but they have to understand the cultural values as well, and despite all my time, I am not sure I can say I understand english values that well, just enough to get some rough basics I guess.

    Personnally I stay far from DnL, but I always held them in my upmost respect. If you keep trashing this game, I might have to finally give it a try just to tell you what is good and deserve praises in this game, because nothing is ever completely white or black, there is always grey zones.

    This game certainly can't be that bad, especially not after I read this blog, in French. Reading the words mean nothing if you can't understand what they mean, praise Alta Vista, it won't help you here.

    I talk with them, in French.  I don't agree with them on their design orientation, but again I don't agree with SoE, Vanguard, Blizzard and most companies out there.  Yet, they where always kind, professionnal and careful.

    All your Blog is showing is that Vuuar care a LOT about what is been told here on his game.  A LOT.  There is nothing wrong with that, Cryptic was wearing proudly the MMORPG.com award they get!  They put it on the front page, in the news, in the patch message.  I would do the same if I would get such an award, but it is pretty hard, I don't developp MMO...for now! 

    - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren

  • KilimKilim Member Posts: 546


    Originally posted by Anofalye

    I can only bow with respect to Vuuarr.French is my main language.


    What you obviously fails to understand is...He want peoples to come here to talk POSITIVELY about the game.  The guy is devastated by what happen here and is really hoping to make stuff better.


    Personnally I stay far from DnL, but I always held them in my upmost respect. If you keep trashing this game, I might have to finally give it a try just to tell you what is good and deserve praises in this game, because nothing is ever completely white or black, there is always grey zones.


    This game certainly can't be that bad, especially not after I read this blog, in French. Reading the words mean nothing if you can't understand what they mean, praise Alta Vista, it won't help you here.


    How can you expect the majoity of th peopel that has given D&L a chance to post POSITIVELY about the game when thre is NOTHING POSITIVE to post about?

    That is like telling everyone to practically lie!

    There wouldn't be a PROBLEM of posting anything POSITIVE about D&L if there is actually anything POSITIVE to post.
    Get it?

    Like you have stated, you have never even touched this game called D&L.
    Many of us have!

    Some of us have even been in this community for YEARS!

    Instead of bashing on the people that are posting NEGATIVE feedback on D&L that actually has touched D&L, why not give it a try yourself so you can get the full experience and understand why so many people are giving it such NEGATIVE feedback.

    How can you argue against something when you have NOT fully experienced what you are arguing against?

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  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433


    Originally posted by Kilim
    How can you expect the majoity of th peopel that has given D&L a chance to post POSITIVELY about the game when thre is NOTHING POSITIVE to post about?

    That is like telling everyone to practically lie!




    You are trashing them over the fact they are trying to organised and come here and talk, you are not currently trashing them about the game or it flaw.  You are trashing their blogs, their efforts to organised and explains and try.

    I will not try DnL myself, I don't like the 'vision' they have for this game.  But trashing peoples over a try to convince his staff to come here to talk and explains, that is kinda lowly.

    This guy work on this project for YEARS, he is talking with peoples who have been working on the project for years as well, I don't see how this is asking peoples to LIE as you put it.  I am no DnL fan and never was, but this is troll bashing for the fun of finding excuses to trash them.  This has NOTHING to do with their game, you are trashing them for WORKING on their public image.

    What you are doing is lowly.  Vuuar obviously believe and dreams about this DnL thingy, he is devastated, crushed, about what was said here on his game.  The fact he is French and partially understanding what is been said here, made him all the more vulnerable, since his english understanding side is less developped, it is also less mature on an emotional level, just like if I would start ill talking about SoE in French, those who speak some level of french would prolly be mortified, especially if they still dreams and believe about SoE.

    - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604


    Originally posted by Kilim
    And you guys doubt we will get an answer 

    (TBH I doubted we will actually get an answer also, specially teh answer we just got!)



    yup but again, it was made "some of the lines are missing".......HAH! bs.
  • KilimKilim Member Posts: 546


    Originally posted by Anofalye

    Originally posted by Kilim
    How can you expect the majoity of th peopel that has given D&L a chance to post POSITIVELY about the game when thre is NOTHING POSITIVE to post about?

    That is like telling everyone to practically lie!



    You are trashing them over the fact they are trying to organised and come here and talk, you are not currently trashing them about the game or it flaw.  You are trashing their blogs, their efforts to organised and explains and try.


    I will not try DnL myself, I don't like the 'vision' they have for this game.  But trashing peoples over a try to convince his staff to come here to talk and explains, that is kinda lowly.


    This guy work on this project for YEARS, he is talking with peoples who have been working on the project for years as well, I don't see how this is asking peoples to LIE as you put it.  I am no DnL fan and never was, but this is troll bashing for the fun of finding excuses to trash them.  This has NOTHING to do with their game, you are trashing them for WORKING on their public image.


    What you are doing is lowly.  Vuuar obviously believe and dreams about this DnL thingy, he is devastated, crushed, about what was said here on his game.  The fact he is French and partially understanding what is been said here, made him all the more vulnerable, since his english understanding side is less developped, it is also less mature on an emotional level, just like if I would start ill talking about SoE in French, those who speak some level of french would prolly be mortified, especially if they still dreams and believe about SoE.


    Because your native tongue is French, please give us a much better translation of the IRC Chat then please.
    So we can fully understand if we have fully misinterpreted what he was rally trying to say.
    And you do know that the IRC Chat log is just a PUBLIC IRC Chat right?

    You have to realise also that ANY gaming companies reason for making the game is MONEY!
    A business is fully started for profit!

    Is it my fault that he is unable to give the community what he has promised?
    Do I really need to care that I have hurt his itsy witsy heart and feelings because of the NEGATIVE feedback he has received from his announcements?

    You do realize that I am just a customer practically posting my complaints about a product that did not deliver?

    Are you trying to tell us now that EVERYONE here that has been giving NEGATIVE feedback due to poor customer service and product is not warranted?

    So please, answer my questions above as I really want to know the answers to them.

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