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Huvara
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please skip to the last page and scroll down, I really need a question answered !!!) 
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Have you tried the 14 day trial?
No I haven't and I don't have the time to sit there and wait for it to download either, so its pretty much either buy or not. I would, but I gotta work. Thanks for the advice though.
I wouldnt recomend buying it before you even try the trial..
You either love it or hate the game.. theres no in betweens
Get the trial, and play for all 14 days before you buy a month.
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That's the original release. There has been 3+ years of patches and 5 free expansions since then. Even if you were to buy the CD, the upgrade patch is still over 300MB.
I would just download an extra 150MB that it takes to get the digital distribution and try the trial.
Anyway.. PROs and CONs, in no particular order:
+ Possibly the best Devs in the industry, even if you don't like the game, you'll still like CCP.
+ One server 'shard', your actions shape a world shared by 200,000 players (22,000 online avg).
+ Offline skill system, you continue to advance your character even when you can't play.
+ Complex player-run economy, real supply, real demand.
+ Unrestricted PvP, the safeguards are the consequences.
- Offline skill system, you can't increase your advancement rate by playing 'harder'.
- Competition can be harsh (maybe not a con), to get ahead requires taking risk.
- Naturally slow paced, you need to go looking for action.
- No 3D character avatars (you get an extremely personalized portrait, however).
- Weak PvE, but PvP focused (the next expansion will be enhancing solo and PvE gameplay a lot).
I have been playing EVE for about 6 months. I must have missed the announcement but where can I find out the details on the enhancements for solo and PVE. That just sounds so "UnEVEish"
Support Bacteria, its the only culture some people have.
The info is kinda scattered all over the forums, development notes, and dev blogs. Thing that will be making an appearance in Kali are..
In September:
- New mini-professions (salvaging, gas harvesting)
- Making current mini-professions (Hacking and Archaeology) more versatile (i.e. not just for Cosmos stuff, used in R&D,M and Exploration)
- Exploration, you will be able to find random hidden encounters/resources in space.
While these things will best be taken advantage of in groups, they are being made so that a solo pilot can get the upper hand too.
And in Spring 2007:
- Factional Warfare. There are not any specific details released on this yet, but I find it hard to imagine that you can miss the clamor the Devs have been making about this. Basically, it will be dynamic group missions against both NPCs and other players (engaged in the mission, but the opposing faction). It's outcome will also directly affect the power balance between the Empires.
O RLY? EVE has had a trial available continuously since release.
To this date there have been 1670 EVE Trial promotions set up through their Affiliates Program.
https://secure.eve-online.com/ft/?aid=100001
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https://secure.eve-online.com/ft/?aid=101670
Yah I got board and figured that one out :P
Additionally, there is a rather nice banner that has been displayed prominently all over the Internet for nearly a year.
O RLY? EVE has had a trial available continuously since release.
To this date there have been 1670 EVE Trial promotions set up through their Affiliates Program.
https://secure.eve-online.com/ft/?aid=100001
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.
.
https://secure.eve-online.com/ft/?aid=101670
Yah I got board and figured that one out :P
Additionally, there is a rather nice banner that has been displayed prominently all over the Internet for nearly a year.
oh my bad. i was looking all over for a trial yesterday and couldn't find one. all the links i found were dead. thanks though cuz i want to try it again.
Dont buy the eve box and cd,.Its to old and from the last patch I was not able to reinstall eve with the disk"was getting errors" when patching.
I had to wipe all the eve files and DL the more up to date build,then patch.
I wipe my pc every 3 months,.its painfull but keeps me so fast and perfect in game.so I like disks but eve disk is no good anymore *sigh*
And ya,. Love it or hate it has its merits,but in the last year it seems to be attracting lots of pure pve players that run missions till they cry from bordom.but takes them around 6 months it seems,.if eve hooks you you should be around for a good 6 months or more,.
Yeah, the boxed game is more of a collector's item now'a'days. Just DL the game before you go out or something, come back a few hours later and the game is done DLing. Install. Begin.
As for opinions, this game is hit or miss. You either like it or you don't. Just read some of the forum posts.
Another con to this game is that you'll never catch the older players, but a pro to this game is that you don't need to in order to be able to kill them. That would be the biggest thing people *RABBLE* on and on about.
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There are two types of people in this world - people that suck... and me.
One other thing I would really like to know about eve is the pvp side of the game works. I get the whole, mine a asteroid, bring the mined material in for cash and buy new weapons to blast other players with, but how does it work? Do you "die" or does your ship explode and you have to get a whole new one and start from sratch? It seems like it has a high learning curve. Also I feel that im going to have some mini-rocket launcher while a experienced player that im fighting has some quad-charged multi nuclear ballistic missle launcher... Are there any level restrictons in pvp among players?... If there are levels? If I decide I don't like the pvp and want to just mind my own, galaxy traversing buisness are there non-pvp zones? Or areas were you can't get attacked? Can you start your own buisness and have that flourish and prosper? Or does the game all depend on how many kills, the best weapons, and so on?
... SO many questions answered and so many to go...
Well, when you "die" it can happen several ways. It will always include your ship getting blown up. After that, you will have to get another ship. Also, the modules (weapons, etc.) on your ship might blow up as well, but what doesn't will remain in a can.
If you're PvPing... that can will be picked up by the winner of the fight. If you're PvEing the can will just float there until either you or some passer-by picks it up.
If you get podded, your current body has been killed. now, in order to keep from losing a large sum of skill points, you can buy a clone (that must be upgraded as you grow in skill points) which will lessen that blow.
Also, there is insurance for your ship. You can purchase insurance (which lasts for a month if I'm not mistaken... could be 3) which will give you more money back when your ship explodes. Of course, insurance is simply a matter of opinion.
But yes, ship wise, you will have to start from scratch. If you get podded, as long as you have an up-to-date clone, you won't lose any skill points, but even if you do... you never lose and skills you have trained already.
SobaKai.com
There are two types of people in this world - people that suck... and me.
1) Items (prices are off the top of my head). Heavy Missle Launcher I is your most basic missle launcher out there it costs 100k isk. The best most uber kick ass laucher in game is dropped off rare spawn NPC officers that are rare random spawns and is something that cant be farmed. That will cost 100m - 200m isk. The performance difference between them is roughly 50%. Now, there is also Heavy Missle Launcher II which will take more skills to use and will cost you 4m isk and will be only 20% worse then the best item there is in the game. Higher you go items wise more money you are going to pay for less of an effect. There are very very very few in the game who have the wealth of equiping their common PvP ships with 100 - 200m modules, 90% of players will use Heavy Missle Launcher II because it has high performance vs cost ratio, and it is commonly avalable.
2) Skills. Lets take a look at skills needed to use missle launcher stated above. You will need 2 skills: Missile Launcher Operation and Heavy Missile Operation. Every skill ranges between levels 0 - 5. For example: Missile Launcher Operation skill says something like this: Increases rate of fire of all missile launchers by 4%. Now lets take a look at training time. It will take you about 40m to train skill from 0 -> 1. About 2h to train from 1 -> 2. About 7h for 2 -> 3. about 18h for 3 -> 4. and about 5 days for 4 -> 5. As you can see that you can get most of the benefits out of a skills in a fairly short period of time but if you want to perfect it you will spend alot of time doing that.
There are no restrications anywhere, anyone can attack you anywhere. However if you are in secure space and someone attacks you police will warp in kill them
Ofcourse you cant forget that best rewards are in the unsecure space.
EVE is very much a sandbox game, you can become a billioner without kill a single thing. No one is going to force any play style on you. If you like to solo you can do that all you want, if you like to become a member of a player corporation and work on common goals with poeple you can do that. If you want to join a corporation that is in an allance and live in unsecure space you can do that too.
If we are talking PVP in EVE it is all about your ship setup. Are you prepared for any situation that life can throw at you. NOTHING is invincible in the game, it is all about having proper tools for the job, and knowing how to use those tools. A battleship that costs 100m isk can be easly taken down by 3 frigates that cost 1m isk with all the gear. Game does give benefits of working with other players in a team but it doesnt force it on players. If you want to solo all the way you can.
I won't start repeating myself in here, but read what I wrote on the other thread on this topic.
Lots of info there, I think: http://mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/81807
See you ingame,
Grismar.
So by mentioning tactics I guess that means its not who has the biggest rocket launcher then... Does that mean that ships can evade? Are some ships faster than others? I get the feeling that an attack fighter (if thats a ship) will probably be more equipped and faster than a frigate carrying alot of mining material. Is that true?
Skill points, it seems like you get them from extensive training? Is this while your ship is docked on a planet? Or can you do it in space as well? But if your training in space and get attacked doesn't that mean someone else has to man the ship? Does this mean you get a crew? If so do you have to pay for all of them when your ship bites the dust? Or can they just be cloned as well as you? Are there ways for other players to go on your ship? Can they be part of the hypothetical "crew"? Is a corporation a group of players? Or a NPC company that one choses to work for, and there are thousands of them
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If corporations are player made, doesn't that mean that there will be around 5-10 that are the "top" ones and everyone wants to get into? Since they have the most money and materials? I hope not because thats what ruined DAoC's experience for me. I was also wondering if you lose money when you die, I suppose not because of the loss of your ship, and character. Is there any way to make friends in this game, because frankly it sounds like its a dog eat dog world out there, and some things I enjoy most about MMO's is that there are real people playing.
I also was just reading this article about how EVE released in China and how soooooo many people bought it, is EVE one huge game universe or are there seperate servers once you log into the game? Because I gotta break it to ya, if I have to learn chinese just to get whats going on in this game theres about a 1% chance im going to buy it. Thanks again.
Hi Huvara
There are a bunch of things you proabbly should know about the way EVE works, based on the questions you asked. Firstly you don't have a toon that runs around anywhere at all. Your character's appearance is really defined by the ship s/he is flying at any given time. Ships are controlled by you and you alone. The question of crew or not is sometimes hotly contested but really from an rp rather than a game mechanics point of view. Skill training is almost entirely automatic. You don't do anything to train skills other than select the skill you want trained and then the game goes and trains that skill for the length of time you want it to or until you reach the end of that training level at which point you have to select another skill to train.
ALL your actions are based around what your ship does, be that mining, trading or fighting and all three of those things mentioned can earn you money.
Different ships have different characteristics. Some are small and fast, others are small but have good attributes that help them resist damage done to them, others are large, slow and cumbersome but do lots of damage to other large, slow cumbersome ships while being slightly less effective against smaller ships. The possibilities are endless.
While the universe IS dog-eat-dog, player corporations are always looking for new members and you should quite easily be able to find a group of people that you can interact with and fly with on a regular basis. Because the skill system isn't defined by whether you use that skill or not the main grind of this game is in earning money which can be done a number of ways. As far as people go, they are easy to find if you want to. People who complain that EVE is not populated simply haven't made an effort to meet anyone as there are many channels available to everyone that are full of people to chat to.
One thing you should be VERY aware of is the fact that EVE really does leave it up to you to make the game enjoyable. Quests or missions get very repetitive very quickly and are simply a means to an end (that being earning more cash for other things or gaining standing with a NPC corporation for other activities or whatever)
Hope this helps a little