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C-4-C 7/4/2006 -- BRING BACK QUALITY SWG!

"CANCEL FOR QUALITY"

In the spirit of the NGE's TWO WEEK RELEASE NOTICE...

C4C PART 1 - JULY 4TH 2006

"CANCEL FOR CLASSIC"

You've seen the reviews...

You've heard the veterans...

You've played the NOT-GOOD-ETHICS downgrade...

Players are now *begging* for basic features like:

  • camps that work
  • specials that work
  • specials that look...  special?
  • animations that...  animate?
  • target lock that...  locks?
  • meditation pose?
  • scalable UI?  radar?
  • faction support
  • creature taming
  • *voluntary* holo-emotes
  • *voluntary* cross-hair
  • *voluntary* camera angle
  • ability to see overt teammates
  • diversity?
  • economy?
  • Star Wars continuity?

Wait...  Didn't we have all this?  Are we paying for rations of a rollback?

Some of the "new enhancements" include:

  • recycled entertainer effects used as combat effects
  • recycled JTL effects used as ground combat effects
  • broken animations for ALL CREATURES
  • broken animations for ALL DROIDS
  • floating DEFAULT POSE for PLAYERS IN COMBAT
  • NO MORE BEAUTIFUL MOTION CAPTURED PLAYER MOVES
  • 23 LESS classes to choose from
  • excessive use of particle effects sometimes even blinding
  • thousands and thousands of items on bazaar DISABLED
  • huge player investment in time and collection reduced to NOTHING

FORGET THE ROLLBACK...

BRING BACK THE QUALITY GAME WE BOUGHT!

"CLASSIC SWG SERVER"

Oh, who cares about those damn veterans...

"THE PLAYERS OF TODAY ARE THE VETERANS OF TOMORROW"

"Canceling your account does NOT affect your characters, only your billing information. If you cancel your subscription and then re-subscribe to Star Wars Galaxies within 3 months, we guarantee that you will still have access to your game characters."

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=nge_discussion&message.id=1101

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swggpdiscussion&message.id=785843

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/10/arts/10star.html?

http://www.joystiq.com/2005/12/10/john-smedley-talks-about-star-wars-galaxies/

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swggpdiscussion&message.id=858171

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/42550

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swggpdiscussion&message.id=860888

http://www.joystiq.com/2005/12/06/more-negative-press-for-star-wars-galaxies/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/01/AR2006020102341.html

http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/24/star-wars-galaxies-new-game-enhancements-cause-player-backlash/

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/12/20/tech/gamecore/main1146894.shtml

http://www.tonyjharrison.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/StarWarsGalaxies/swgnge1.JPG

http://www.tonyjharrison.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/StarWarsGalaxies/swgnge2.JPG

http://terranova.blogs.com/terra_nova/2005/11/order_66.html

http://videogames.yahoo.com/ongoingfeature?eid=423726&page=0

http://www.wired.com/news/games/0,2101,69816,00.html?tw=rss.TOP

http://mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setview/features/loadFeature/325/gameID/6

http://mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setview/features/loadFeature/714/gameID/6

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Comments

  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961

    Cool links.

    Oh, and: The NGE improved? Beat this.



  • ZaushZaush Member Posts: 371

    If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. By continuing to support the game, even though you hate it, you are doing a diservice to the overall community, to the memory of the original game, and to the Star Wars franchise.

    The only language SOE and LA understands is $$. The only way to make them listen to what the customer base wants is by cutting off the money through mass cancelations. As long as SWG turns a profit, SOE will continue to short change its customers.

    We can't ask for change, we must force it. With mass cancelations, SOE and LA will be forced to listen to the wants and desires of the playerbase, and forced to make the changes that are wanted in game.

    I have resubbed once since I canclled in DEC, and have since uninstalled SWG. The only way SOE ever gets any of my money, is either classic servers, rollback or a complete change in direction with the NGE to include a hard target lock, auto attack, and the addition or some new professions(a ranger/ch type of profession). Unless SOE and LA go back to the core RPG/Virtual world elemnts of the game, instead of this console style of action adventure game play, no SOE game will ever come anywhere near my computer, and that includes Vanguard. And if the EMU beats them to it, then I will support a private server for the EMU with the money that SOE could have been getting from me.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/12/16/tech/gamecore/main1133791.shtml



  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261
    umm...no?

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  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961


    Originally posted by Obraik
    umm...no?

    C'mon, be a good sport.
  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261
    I cancel because I want to cancel, not because someone told me to :)

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  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961


    Originally posted by Obraik
    I cancel because I want to cancel, not because someone told me to :)

    I have a different problem.

    My current paid month expires around 25th or thereabout. So I'd need to resub just to cancel.

    Oh, decisions decisions.
  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261


    Originally posted by Rekrul

    Originally posted by Obraik
    I cancel because I want to cancel, not because someone told me to :)
    I have a different problem.

    My current paid month expires around 25th or thereabout. So I'd need to resub just to cancel.

    Oh, decisions decisions.


    You know you want to check out Restuss and post your opinion on it

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  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961


    Originally posted by Obraik



    You know you want to check out Restuss and post your opinion on it




    I have a very real problem with SWG. Carpal tunnel syndrome.

    When I have to use mouse, I do it by keeping back of my palm on the desk, and move the mouse with thumb and fifth finger, using forth finger to rotate it, not moving my wrist at all. While also a good technique for precision movement (including graphics and FPS gaming), it's something I cannot do with SWG, despite adjusting dead zone (since start of CU). The movements required for camera movement and switching between modes simply requires steps that are too large.

    As end result, playing longer than 10 minutes, SWG causes me physical pain. Literaly.
  • honzolohonzolo Member Posts: 321


    Originally posted by Obraik
    I cancel because I want to cancel, not because someone told me to :)


     YOU WILL CANCEL AND YOU WILL LIKE IT, MISTER!!!!

     Hehe. I can't comply with this mass cancellation, as I cancelled the day of the CU. I did play my 15 day free trial of the NGE... played about 2 hours of that garbage.

     H.

  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928
    This is the exact same thing that 23462672 different people have been saying on these forums and the offical forums since the NGE went up. Making an account under a generic name, and using big font and bland colors dosent make it anymore important than all the others post. SoE dosent listen, give up.

    "There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
    — Boba Fett

  • SWGPLAYER001SWGPLAYER001 Member Posts: 5



    Originally posted by Obraik

    You know you want to check out Restuss and post your opinion on it



    I see you have caught the bait.  The E3 video only convinced me more what kind of garbage gameplay NGE is.

    AT-ST fell down *TWICE*. (example of broken animations)

    AT-AT slides like it's on roller skates.

    Notice how the jedi player was walking?  Even they know that running looks ridiculous.  Are you impressed by flashy explosions and re-used particle effects?

    I suggest you play BattleFront 2 in the Hoth map you will realize what an insult that Restuss thing is.

    This game was built as an RPG and should focus on RPG quality elements.  Not this half-ass hacked up crap that we have now.  One day you'll understand, I hope.

  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529


    Originally posted by Obraik
    I cancel because I want to cancel, not because someone told me to :)

    If you cancel... I'll pay for your next month.

    Shayde - SWG (dead)
    Proud member of the Cabal.
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    It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled :( - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me.
    I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489


    Originally posted by Spathotan
    This is the exact same thing that 23462672 different people have been saying on these forums and the offical forums since the NGE went up. Making an account under a generic name, and using big font and bland colors dosent make it anymore important than all the others post. SoE dosent listen, give up.

    Actually, it's not. People in-game and on the forums are taking about it, and preparing to cancel. Our whole Guild is canceling, even those that plan on resubbing. I know of over 40 people doing this personally, including the 8 WoW'ers I bought into the game. I've gotten 4 in-game emails from people I know asking me to do this, one with a list on it with over 30 people I didn't know.

    It's a statement, and it will get attention. It's a movement that's been growing for weeks, and it will have an impact, just wait...

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • kymekyme Member Posts: 411

    Eclipse server has already cancelled. It is more dead then I ever imagined. Give the paying customers something worthy of playing! 

  • UbermanUberman Member Posts: 340
    I support this.  I will not re-sub and give SOE money just to then cancel, but I'm there with you in spirit.

    It may be true that SOE will not listen, but this is the equivalent of somebody screaming bloody murder at the top of thier lungs directly into SOE's ear.  They can choose not to listen (as they have done in the past), but they cannot choose not to notice.  And as with anybody screaming at the top of their lungs, what might be worse is if others (i.e., news media) also took notice.  Secondary repercussions could result, causing a final nail to be put into SOE's coffin with regard to this franchise.

    With the Force, all things are possible. 



  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261


    Originally posted by SWGPLAYER001




    Originally posted by Obraik
    You know you want to check out Restuss and post your opinion on it



    I see you have caught the bait.  The E3 video only convinced me more what kind of garbage gameplay NGE is.

    AT-ST fell down *TWICE*. (example of broken animations)

    AT-AT slides like it's on roller skates.

    Notice how the jedi player was walking?  Even they know that running looks ridiculous.  Are you impressed by flashy explosions and re-used particle effects?

    I suggest you play BattleFront 2 in the Hoth map you will realize what an insult that Restuss thing is.

    This game was built as an RPG and should focus on RPG quality elements.  Not this half-ass hacked up crap that we have now.  One day you'll understand, I hope.


    Yes, the Restuss event is appealing to me so yeah, I am looking forward to it.  Personally, I don't care what it looks like if I'm having fun.  I'm not subbed for Restuss alone anyway, I'm subbed because I enjoy the game as a whole and have been enjoying it since July 03.

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  • ZaushZaush Member Posts: 371


    Originally posted by Uberman
    I support this.  I will not re-sub and give SOE money just to then cancel, but I'm there with you in spirit.

    It may be true that SOE will not listen, but this is the equivalent of somebody screaming bloody murder at the top of thier lungs directly into SOE's ear.  They can choose not to listen (as they have done in the past), but they cannot choose not to notice.  And as with anybody screaming at the top of their lungs, what might be worse is if others (i.e., news media) also took notice.  Secondary repercussions could result, causing a final nail to be put into SOE's coffin with regard to this franchise.

    With the Force, all things are possible. 





    I wrote a letter address to George Lucas and emailed it ot over 50 media outlets. CBS mailbag was the only one that responded, and posted it with many others. The issue never made a big splash in the main stream news, at least not as much as I would have liked. It would have been nice to see smed on 60 mins being raked over the coals for his total lack of respect for his customers and unethical business practices.
  • royalpenaltyroyalpenalty Member Posts: 312

    totally agree, those ppl who continue to pay subs but are unhappy with gameplay are basically telling SOE "Good job, we love the NGE"

    i sympathize, believe me, cancelling recently was not easy for me.  but i did it b/c i love the game.  if you care about SWG at all, you will cancel if you havent already.

    i cancelled the last of my 4 accts 10 days ago, and will never return until the announcement of classic servers is made.

    SWG ADDICT...clean since the NGE

  • magicRancormagicRancor Member Posts: 18



    Originally posted by Obraik


    Yes, the Restuss event is appealing to me so yeah, I am looking forward to it.  Personally, I don't care what it looks like if I'm having fun.  I'm not subbed for Restuss alone anyway, I'm subbed because I enjoy the game as a whole and have been enjoying it since July 03.




    wow......just wow.

    soo, anyway yeah.  the walker in the video did what the fambaa do on naboo.  as an ex-creature handler i've been watching the creatures since NGE and it is actually UNfun to watch them now.

  • duncan_922duncan_922 Member Posts: 1,670


    Originally posted by Obraik

    Originally posted by SWGPLAYER001




    Originally posted by Obraik
    You know you want to check out Restuss and post your opinion on it



    I see you have caught the bait.  The E3 video only convinced me more what kind of garbage gameplay NGE is.

    AT-ST fell down *TWICE*. (example of broken animations)

    AT-AT slides like it's on roller skates.

    Notice how the jedi player was walking?  Even they know that running looks ridiculous.  Are you impressed by flashy explosions and re-used particle effects?

    I suggest you play BattleFront 2 in the Hoth map you will realize what an insult that Restuss thing is.

    This game was built as an RPG and should focus on RPG quality elements.  Not this half-ass hacked up crap that we have now.  One day you'll understand, I hope.


    Yes, the Restuss event is appealing to me so yeah, I am looking forward to it.  Personally, I don't care what it looks like if I'm having fun.  I'm not subbed for Restuss alone anyway, I'm subbed because I enjoy the game as a whole and have been enjoying it since July 03.

    We'll see how you like it when you start getting 3000 ping times with that string-between-two-cans-in-New-Zealand connection of yours....


    SOE knows what you like... You don't!
    And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!

  • SinisterCBSinisterCB Member Posts: 302


    Originally posted by Rekrul

    Cool links.Oh, and: The NGE improved? Beat this.

    Now that's quality!

    "I'm not a racist...I only hate stupid people..."-SinisterCB

  • magicRancormagicRancor Member Posts: 18


    Originally posted by SinisterCB


    Originally posted by Rekrul

    Cool links.Oh, and: The NGE improved? Beat this.



    Now that's quality!


    amazing...  i just watched this and WOW.

    have you seen the "new" saber effect thingy?  its like a giant yellow STAR flash thing (think batman) and a weird drum noise....  yes a weird DRUM noise from a saber!

  • xeonsparksxeonsparks Member Posts: 33

    I know I'll be canceling.

    There is absolutely NOTHING to do in game anymore.  It's really sad.

    Adrenakrome / Nomikrome *BRIA*

  • DrSmaShDrSmaSh Member UncommonPosts: 454
    I cancled right before NGE hit... CU was bad enough but I could handle it some how... But NGE? They can go to hell.

    Can't wait for Emu and all the money I will support em with. In your face SOE!

    Cancle... Show them who is real boss.

    @Obraik: It's not about if you have fun or not... It's about how they deal with loyal costumers. Mybe tomorrow they will make new chancges that will make you quit just becouse you feeded em with all the money. And then we will all spam you with "I told ya so".

    Or u are on of those "Fanboys 4 Life!"?

    (nothing personal)


    Every time I read your post, I die a little inside...
  • bugzonlsdbugzonlsd Member Posts: 410


    Originally posted by Rekrul
    Cool links.

    Oh, and: The NGE improved? Beat this.



    :(

    /watery eyes

    Look at the saber attack animations

    WAHHHHhahahah

    /smackthedamntaroutofSOE

    damn you.

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