Originally posted by Baseline Originally posted by Zaush Honestly I could care less about exploits, balance, alpha classes, Macros, Afk grinding. NONE of that ever effected my game play. I don't PvP, actually I hate PvP, All I want is to have my Scout/CH character, explore the planets, lead hunting/grinding groups, and harvest resourced for crafters. As long as I can do that, I am a happy Star Wars fan.
Oh yeah? You'll care when you load up the EMU for the first time and find out that you can't afford to buy anything because the 2500 you start out with isn't enough to buy the stuff people are making that costs 10 mil a piece because of all of the credit dupes having totally fu*ked the economy because there was no system in place to flag all the rampant duping and no SysOp's that give a shit.
I'm going to tell you exactly what you'll have when and if, and that's a big IF, if an EMU comes to life. You're going to have all of the old players that knew the old exploits coming to dominance quickly. You're going to have the exploit websites posting their archives of all of the best exploits from the previous days.
And then you're going to have guys like you. The guys who join the game thinking it'll be real nice, till you find out that you either have to become "Bill Gates" through exploits like all of the other players, or you'll probably do like most and say "f*ck it, this isn't what I thought it would be".
slim have you ever played a EMU?
it aint gonna be no 3 year server
1. Itll prolly have Frogs that give us w/e we want
2. Everything will be uped like XP, Credits
3. The people who run the server will have commands like /give money... or w/e
I remember my RF Online private server, i could spawn anymob i wanted, and number of times, i could spawn any item around me and number of times, i could edit xp, i could give out dallant and gold
the EMU will be a end game have fun server to get together with your friends, or grab 20+ firends and in 20 mins of frogging, have a mass pvp event going out
or have a server owner running their own events
Itll be funner then the SWG its self, but yeah prolly with more bugs =/, still more fun =P
The vast majority of the servers coming out are classic servers, with no modifications. As for bugs, do you honestly think an emulator could have MORE bugs than Star Wars Galaxies? Do you think the people making this emu are actually worse at this then the guys at SOE?
This isn't some WoW or Lineage II emu. They aren't just rushing through it and throwing it out the door so we can play for free. For the vast majority of the servers, you won't be seeing warp NPCs, x10 XP, free mounts when you start a character, etc. This is built and supported by vets. If we could play the official game, we would. We have a severe addiction to this game and they ripped it away from us. If you think this anything like a Ragnarok Online emu, just look over the site. This isn't the same kind of crowd (and by that, I mean kids looking to play for free), this is just vets who want their game back.
They won't tolerate cheaters and the players won't tolerate any changes. On the site for the server I plan to join, they were planning to give away one harvestor of your choice at the start. There were two pages of people yelling that they wanted to suck again. Just a blaster and a melon. That's the kind of people that are playing this game.
I don't know what the **** is wrong with some of you people. You seem to genuinely hate the idea of an pre-cu emu. Has the NGE truely destroyed all of your hopes and dreams? All your faith in bright future? This is what we've been waiting for for so god **** long! Pre-Cu is back and our poor brothers that have fallen to the lure of the NGE will be freed! And together we lag out at Coronet spamming, "Free at last! Free at last! Thank you SWGEmu devs, for we are free at last!"
Originally posted by Zaush Honestly I could care less about exploits, balance, alpha classes, Macros, Afk grinding. NONE of that ever effected my game play. I don't PvP, actually I hate PvP, All I want is to have my Scout/CH character, explore the planets, lead hunting/grinding groups, and harvest resourced for crafters. As long as I can do that, I am a happy Star Wars fan.
There are 100k - 300k mob spawns per planet as per original server, and those need to be balanced against mission spawns. I haven't heard any mention of how these will be managed, since these require gigabytes just for storage. In typical scenario, and acording to old SWG statistics, between 2-20 mobs are killed every second. Those are very bad numbers. 500 concurrent users require 32 megs of ram just for network buffers (at least as long as they attempt even the basic protocol features to handle less-than-perfect features). None of this even mentions the planetwide collision data, static data (15k+ static objects like signs and walls), let alone structures and items.
Just a naive implementation of fauna system that resembles original SWG world can easily use up 100 Gigs of ram per planet.
There used to be a server zone map somewhere, showing that SWG planets are split into zones, and each planet consists out of some 40-100 different physical servers. It's not that they are incompetent, the world is just that big.
You will have to (re)buy a game and it would ofc. have one of those stupid names that SOE alwasy come up with for there packs.
And then when you would buy it... You wouldnt know how long the fun will last since they got your money. Mybe 3 months... Mybe 6. So I don't know if any one would think about Jedi grinding tbh
Every time I read your post, I die a little inside...
Originally posted by Baseline And the reason it can't happen now is because they have a totally different bunch of Devs working there now. All the old guys that made SWG, like Raph Koster and Co., they're all gone. All those guys are the guys that built the game we loved, maintained it and they slowly left and got replaced by these lower-paid, lower-skilled schmucks that are just hacking up and tinkering with a big machine that the other guys built.
The original guys that made this online world had no restrictions. They were told to make a great immersive star wars game. They did. And like many things in society that become successful, greedy schmucks step into new management positions of it just saliivating for dollars, and not caring about the end product and what made it great for the people. They hire cheaper hands to save some money, and they just start screwing around thinking they are right and the majority is wrong. Like that Nancy McIntyre or whatever her name is at LA. Big example right there.
This is why when you see devs respond to requests for things like putting the combat log back in, they respond with lines saying crap like they think that would be difficult. IT'S BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THERE NOW DON'T KNOW SHIT! They are just attempting to maintain and tinker with what the great ones built. They've been doing that for a while now. That is why this game has, and will continue to go down hill.
They can't put up a pre-cu server because if you're paying them money, they have to provide support. And they're not going to set up a pre-cu support and an NGE support division. They aren't stupid, they know that anyone left will go to the pre-cu server and 100K at least would come back, so they'd really just be doing a retarded version of a rollback.
So, please people, stop saying "give us a pre-cu server!". We all would love that, but you'll have to wait until you see some key people get fired. Like Julio and Ms McIntyre over at LEC.
EDIT: Oh, and a note. Please shutup about SWG EMU. One of the things that kept SWG great was the enforcement. The management might've been shit toward the end, but you can't deny that back in the day, when you had people exploiting things like resources/credits/items/slicing, they were quick to ban those people. You think you're going to have that in an EMU? Think again.
Originally posted by Baseline Originally posted by JNA0349 Fuck SWG devs, SWGEMU knows what we want and they are doing it for free... SOE/LA is just after money, and it doesnt matter what they do, they are permently brought shame to their company
You're not getting my point. My point is that it's not going to be the same and you people are blindly thinking it will without critically thinking about this.
People are putting this EMU idea up on a pedastal because they are so desperate for something like what the game used to be. This really isn't it though... Not unless these EMU guys are getting paid to make sure the game is fair. It will not be the same.
i dont give a shit about "fair" or "balanced" or "exploits". i never have. im not one of the gimme gimme group. i dont see someone else doing something or having something cool and start crying about not having it myself. friggin crybabies are what ruined the game in the first place. i will play how i always have, with honor and respect, anyone whom i encounter who does not give honor and respect back will be avoided from then on, its just that simple. but i never got bent out of shape if others had different playstyles. i just felt sorry for them and moved on. if someone wants to run around in god mode, more power to em. i get my joy and satisfaction out of EARNING (a concept lost w/ the NGE) what i get, not running around PWNING ppl. personally im leaning towards the emu called "pureSWG". looks to be an older crowd who just wanna play the game we bought.
and honestly, the NGE players are full of disrespectful idiots, which is why i ended up just playing by myself those last few months, and eventually cancelled. the NGE is unplayable for me, that is a fact. nothing they do to polish that turd is gonna change that fact. i consider it an insult to my intelligence and a slap in the face to what i worked hard to accomplish in SWG over the years.
i know what your're saying, but i just dont care. an unsupported, godmoded, exploited, preCU server is a 1000x better than an SOE supported NGE. imho, the best mmo's simulate life, and life is not fair. i want my mmo to be as realistic as possible.
stick with your NGE, keep paying full price for 10% of the game, enjoy the improved customer relations, quicker, more polished updates, non existant GCW, nerfed into oblivion, fake ass jedi/BH's, cookie cutter professions, and your short attention span twitch fest over there. ill be over here having fun. these fucking forums are more fun than the NGE.
i love SWG, however, Sony products are no longer allowed in my home. so the emu is my only hope. i will continue to support it until i see a reason not to. makes sense right?
Originally posted by royalpenalty Originally posted by Baseline Originally posted by JNA0349 Fuck SWG devs, SWGEMU knows what we want and they are doing it for free... SOE/LA is just after money, and it doesnt matter what they do, they are permently brought shame to their company
You're not getting my point. My point is that it's not going to be the same and you people are blindly thinking it will without critically thinking about this.
People are putting this EMU idea up on a pedastal because they are so desperate for something like what the game used to be. This really isn't it though... Not unless these EMU guys are getting paid to make sure the game is fair. It will not be the same.
i dont give a shit about "fair" or "balanced" or "exploits". i never have. im not one of the gimme gimme group. i dont see someone else doing something or having something cool and start crying about not having it myself. friggin crybabies are what ruined the game in the first place. i will play how i always have, with honor and respect, anyone whom i encounter who does not give honor and respect back will be avoided from then on, its just that simple. but i never got bent out of shape if others had different playstyles. i just felt sorry for them and moved on. if someone wants to run around in god mode, more power to em. i get my joy and satisfaction out of EARNING (a concept lost w/ the NGE) what i get, not running around PWNING ppl. personally im leaning towards the emu called "pureSWG". looks to be an older crowd who just wanna play the game we bought.
and honestly, the NGE players are full of disrespectful idiots, which is why i ended up just playing by myself those last few months, and eventually cancelled. the NGE is unplayable for me, that is a fact. nothing they do to polish that turd is gonna change that fact. i consider it an insult to my intelligence and a slap in the face to what i worked hard to accomplish in SWG over the years.
i know what your're saying, but i just dont care. an unsupported, godmoded, exploited, preCU server is a 1000x better than an SOE supported NGE. imho, the best mmo's simulate life, and life is not fair. i want my mmo to be as realistic as possible.
stick with your NGE, keep paying full price for 10% of the game, enjoy the improved customer relations, quicker, more polished updates, non existant GCW, nerfed into oblivion, fake ass jedi/BH's, cookie cutter professions, and your short attention span twitch fest over there. ill be over here having fun. these fucking forums are more fun than the NGE.
Is that your vein poking out there ? Chill..............................
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by Baseline And the reason it can't happen now is because they have a totally different bunch of Devs working there now. All the old guys that made SWG, like Raph Koster and Co., they're all gone. All those guys are the guys that built the game we loved, maintained it and they slowly left and got replaced by these lower-paid, lower-skilled schmucks that are just hacking up and tinkering with a big machine that the other guys built.
As a perma banned forum account user under (adamrk) on the SOE boards now and my main (iskareot) is not -- I will wait to pay for the 15.00 to rant again.
The one thing I do not get, or will understand is since the summit meeting in Indy, I thought people had more gal or sense.
The NGE players right now are settling for sub-par communication, code and game. THEY actually are looking for ways to justify why they are there???
To me this is just unreal, I actually use the term SHEEP lightly as I do not want to think it's like that but it really is. I hate to see these people just buy into the Dev responses and bullshit they have fed them.
So far the NGE glee club member forgot about: the 6 month target date for failure, the fact of them saying things would be fixed and faster due to the fact there is only 9 classes now, when in fact this has not happend at all, not to mention when they do release things that most of the time they have been broke.
These are just a few but I just cannot understand why they still think they are being told the truth and that everything is fine.
Most of them are glad they got free Jedi, yet they have no idea what the old one was like.. I guess in the end and (so far) time has told them how this is going... people quiting, jumping ship --- quiting the team.
Don't think so???? GO LOOK AT THE JOBS NEEDED ON LA's SITE AND SOE's --- LOL, you will find how bad SWG is right now..lol (You dont see them asking for devs, marketing dirs, project leaders for any other games lol) ---- But hey, Facts are just that... facts.
You choose to see them or not I guess.
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Originally posted by iskareot As a perma banned forum account user under (adamrk) on the SOE boards now and my main (iskareot) is not -- I will wait to pay for the 15.00 to rant again. The one thing I do not get, or will understand is since the summit meeting in Indy, I thought people had more gal or sense. The NGE players right now are settling for sub-par communication, code and game. THEY actually are looking for ways to justify why they are there??? To me this is just unreal, I actually use the term SHEEP lightly as I do not want to think it's like that but it really is. I hate to see these people just buy into the Dev responses and bullshit they have fed them. So far the NGE glee club member forgot about: the 6 month target date for failure, the fact of them saying things would be fixed and faster due to the fact there is only 9 classes now, when in fact this has not happend at all, not to mention when they do release things that most of the time they have been broke. These are just a few but I just cannot understand why they still think they are being told the truth and that everything is fine. Most of them are glad they got free Jedi, yet they have no idea what the old one was like.. I guess in the end and (so far) time has told them how this is going... people quiting, jumping ship --- quiting the team. Don't think so???? GO LOOK AT THE JOBS NEEDED ON LA's SITE AND SOE's --- LOL, you will find how bad SWG is right now..lol (You dont see them asking for devs, marketing dirs, project leaders for any other games lol) ---- But hey, Facts are just that... facts. You choose to see them or not I guess.
Hate to say it but I always hated reading your posts .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by albalma Originally posted by Baseline And the reason it can't happen now is because they have a totally different bunch of Devs working there now. All the old guys that made SWG, like Raph Koster and Co., they're all gone. All those guys are the guys that built the game we loved, maintained it and they slowly left and got replaced by these lower-paid, lower-skilled schmucks that are just hacking up and tinkering with a big machine that the other guys built.
Just hire them back at ridiculously high salaries
Lol yeah right.... if a single one of them came back it would be career suicide. So far it's funny to see whom Bio Ware has gobled up. I think the fact that we actually have to HOPE that somthing happens to the game says things best.
Right now, I would like to see it fail even faster... I want LA to feel it, SOE to know it and for the next company that takes it over to apologize for it.
Right now, if I was a dev memeber of that team I would be looking for a Job and a way to get out from under that mess. Being known as the guy that is working on this game is just not somthing to brag about.
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by iskareot As a perma banned forum account user under (adamrk) on the SOE boards now and my main (iskareot) is not -- I will wait to pay for the 15.00 to rant again. The one thing I do not get, or will understand is since the summit meeting in Indy, I thought people had more gal or sense. The NGE players right now are settling for sub-par communication, code and game. THEY actually are looking for ways to justify why they are there??? To me this is just unreal, I actually use the term SHEEP lightly as I do not want to think it's like that but it really is. I hate to see these people just buy into the Dev responses and bullshit they have fed them. So far the NGE glee club member forgot about: the 6 month target date for failure, the fact of them saying things would be fixed and faster due to the fact there is only 9 classes now, when in fact this has not happend at all, not to mention when they do release things that most of the time they have been broke. These are just a few but I just cannot understand why they still think they are being told the truth and that everything is fine. Most of them are glad they got free Jedi, yet they have no idea what the old one was like.. I guess in the end and (so far) time has told them how this is going... people quiting, jumping ship --- quiting the team. Don't think so???? GO LOOK AT THE JOBS NEEDED ON LA's SITE AND SOE's --- LOL, you will find how bad SWG is right now..lol (You dont see them asking for devs, marketing dirs, project leaders for any other games lol) ---- But hey, Facts are just that... facts. You choose to see them or not I guess.
Hate to say it but I always hated reading your posts .
Why is that? Because I used facts most of the time? Or was it because I used the obvious to point things out?
Love it or leave it I fought for the old game back -- I canceled isk after the NGE -- I used my friends account (adamrk) to post... Since beta 2 I fought for the game and supported the ideas of it.. the NGE changed that.
At least I made a stand and stuck to it, I did not fray or cave in... I did not act like I was for the Devs, or supporting them in any fashion... and trust me I knew a few since beta of the game.
I have thick skin, one has to have that after changing my song to rant against the NGE but I call it as I see it and for that I at least got alot of support. I was not a panzy ass player and liked the hard side of the game.... I thihk when they took that all out the game was lost...
SO far it seems like I was right when I protested against the NGE from the get go.
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Originally posted by iskareot Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by iskareot As a perma banned forum account user under (adamrk) on the SOE boards now and my main (iskareot) is not -- I will wait to pay for the 15.00 to rant again. The one thing I do not get, or will understand is since the summit meeting in Indy, I thought people had more gal or sense. The NGE players right now are settling for sub-par communication, code and game. THEY actually are looking for ways to justify why they are there??? To me this is just unreal, I actually use the term SHEEP lightly as I do not want to think it's like that but it really is. I hate to see these people just buy into the Dev responses and bullshit they have fed them. So far the NGE glee club member forgot about: the 6 month target date for failure, the fact of them saying things would be fixed and faster due to the fact there is only 9 classes now, when in fact this has not happend at all, not to mention when they do release things that most of the time they have been broke. These are just a few but I just cannot understand why they still think they are being told the truth and that everything is fine. Most of them are glad they got free Jedi, yet they have no idea what the old one was like.. I guess in the end and (so far) time has told them how this is going... people quiting, jumping ship --- quiting the team. Don't think so???? GO LOOK AT THE JOBS NEEDED ON LA's SITE AND SOE's --- LOL, you will find how bad SWG is right now..lol (You dont see them asking for devs, marketing dirs, project leaders for any other games lol) ---- But hey, Facts are just that... facts. You choose to see them or not I guess.
Hate to say it but I always hated reading your posts .
Why is that? Because I used facts most of the time? Or was it because I used the obvious to point things out?
Love it or leave it I fought for the old game back -- I canceled isk after the NGE -- I used my friends account (adamrk) to post... Since beta 2 I fought for the game and supported the ideas of it.. the NGE changed that.
At least I made a stand and stuck to it, I did not fray or cave in... I did not act like I was for the Devs, or supporting them in any fashion... and trust me I knew a few since beta of the game.
I have thick skin, one has to have that after changing my song to rant against the NGE but I call it as I see it and for that I at least got alot of support. I was not a panzy ass player and liked the hard side of the game.... I thihk when they took that all out the game was lost...
SO far it seems like I was right when I protested against the NGE from the get go.
This is why
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I have only had one cup of Java this morn, please explain.
lol---
Oh and yes, I did love the game.... trust me on that. It was amazing at one time, it really was.
(Although being a SONIC YOUTH fan also tells me your not 14)..lol
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by iskareot This is why
I have only had one cup of Java this morn, please explain.
lol---
Oh and yes, I did love the game.... trust me on that. It was amazing at one time, it really was.
On a side note take a long look at my avatar .
Hmm.... short of you being JemyM, Jedi of the Hills or JustinTimberlake I must say unless your a fanboi -- 9 times out of ten I had no issues with anyone. Unless of course you supported "the change" with no future...etc..lol
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Originally posted by iskareot Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by iskareot This is why
I have only had one cup of Java this morn, please explain.
lol---
Oh and yes, I did love the game.... trust me on that. It was amazing at one time, it really was.
On a side note take a long look at my avatar .
Hmm.... short of you being JemyM, Jedi of the Hills or JustinTimberlake I must say unless your a fanboi -- 9 times out of ten I had no issues with anyone. Unless of course you supported "the change" with no future...etc..lol
I like buffalo wings , Does that make me a fanboi ?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Lets face facts if it came back it wouldnt be the same buzz we had at launch, we're older and wiser now people. But it would be a good laugh I can guarantee that. Just about everyone who left still keeps in touch with guildies or on the forums so people would still be up for creating a community of sorts.
If it doesn't work out, what have we lost? absolutely nothing
Quite frankly I'd rather pick the peanuts out of smedley's shit than play the current version so if it does happen soon count me in.
Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by iskareot Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by iskareot This is why
I have only had one cup of Java this morn, please explain.
lol---
Oh and yes, I did love the game.... trust me on that. It was amazing at one time, it really was.
On a side note take a long look at my avatar .
Hmm.... short of you being JemyM, Jedi of the Hills or JustinTimberlake I must say unless your a fanboi -- 9 times out of ten I had no issues with anyone. Unless of course you supported "the change" with no future...etc..lol
I like buffalo wings , Does that make me a fanboi ?
Nope not of SWG... however I too am a fan of BW3's --- I prefer blazin' (Did alot of that in school) ..
Like I said, short of trying to actually think that the game went in the right direction and was handled well with the NGE I was a great supporter of the game. Sure it needed fixes but not like this, you cannot "fix" getting back players let alone pretend new ones.
Not sure your angle though, I looked at your Avatar and thought... hmm, it looks like Billy Barty from a bad movie I cannot recall lol.
Like that Leprachan movie or somthing lol.
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Originally posted by milton1970 I think the correct term is: The current SOE team won't let that happen. Lets face facts if it came back it wouldnt be the same buzz we had at launch, we're older and wiser now people. But it would be a good laugh I can guarantee that. Just about everyone who left still keeps in touch with guildies or on the forums so people would still be up for creating a community of sorts. If it doesn't work out, what have we lost? absolutely nothing Quite frankly I'd rather pick the peanuts out of smedley's shit than play the current version so if it does happen soon count me in.
Ok so I loved the game but that peanuts part? Can I pay someone to do that instead?
I do pretty well and if that was a choice... I would much rather go that way lol.
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Originally posted by iskareot Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by iskareot Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by iskareot This is why
I have only had one cup of Java this morn, please explain.
lol---
Oh and yes, I did love the game.... trust me on that. It was amazing at one time, it really was.
On a side note take a long look at my avatar .
Hmm.... short of you being JemyM, Jedi of the Hills or JustinTimberlake I must say unless your a fanboi -- 9 times out of ten I had no issues with anyone. Unless of course you supported "the change" with no future...etc..lol
I like buffalo wings , Does that make me a fanboi ?
Nope not of SWG... however I too am a fan of BW3's --- I prefer blazin' (Did alot of that in school) ..
Like I said, short of trying to actually think that the game went in the right direction and was handled well with the NGE I was a great supporter of the game. Sure it needed fixes but not like this, you cannot "fix" getting back players let alone pretend new ones.
Not sure your angle though, I looked at your Avatar and thought... hmm, it looks like Billy Barty from a bad movie I cannot recall lol.
Like that Leprachan movie or somthing lol.
Trolls lol , Na since you are the first to really ever ask , I must say the game blows now .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by milton1970 And keep up the good work Isk in giving those robbing bastards shit in a constructive manner, I wish I had the patience to do it myself /salute Pembroke Bria
TY man, I did get alot of emails of support -- I did what I could and it did get seen... I have about 20 PMs from Devs in proof of that one.
lol
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
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I'm going to tell you exactly what you'll have when and if, and that's a big IF, if an EMU comes to life. You're going to have all of the old players that knew the old exploits coming to dominance quickly. You're going to have the exploit websites posting their archives of all of the best exploits from the previous days.
And then you're going to have guys like you. The guys who join the game thinking it'll be real nice, till you find out that you either have to become "Bill Gates" through exploits like all of the other players, or you'll probably do like most and say "f*ck it, this isn't what I thought it would be".
slim have you ever played a EMU?
it aint gonna be no 3 year server
1. Itll prolly have Frogs that give us w/e we want
2. Everything will be uped like XP, Credits
3. The people who run the server will have commands like /give money... or w/e
I remember my RF Online private server, i could spawn anymob i wanted, and number of times, i could spawn any item around me and number of times, i could edit xp, i could give out dallant and gold
the EMU will be a end game have fun server to get together with your friends, or grab 20+ firends and in 20 mins of frogging, have a mass pvp event going out
or have a server owner running their own events
Itll be funner then the SWG its self, but yeah prolly with more bugs =/, still more fun =P
The vast majority of the servers coming out are classic servers, with no modifications. As for bugs, do you honestly think an emulator could have MORE bugs than Star Wars Galaxies? Do you think the people making this emu are actually worse at this then the guys at SOE?
This isn't some WoW or Lineage II emu. They aren't just rushing through it and throwing it out the door so we can play for free. For the vast majority of the servers, you won't be seeing warp NPCs, x10 XP, free mounts when you start a character, etc. This is built and supported by vets. If we could play the official game, we would. We have a severe addiction to this game and they ripped it away from us. If you think this anything like a Ragnarok Online emu, just look over the site. This isn't the same kind of crowd (and by that, I mean kids looking to play for free), this is just vets who want their game back.
They won't tolerate cheaters and the players won't tolerate any changes. On the site for the server I plan to join, they were planning to give away one harvestor of your choice at the start. There were two pages of people yelling that they wanted to suck again. Just a blaster and a melon. That's the kind of people that are playing this game.
I don't know what the **** is wrong with some of you people. You seem to genuinely hate the idea of an pre-cu emu. Has the NGE truely destroyed all of your hopes and dreams? All your faith in bright future? This is what we've been waiting for for so god **** long! Pre-Cu is back and our poor brothers that have fallen to the lure of the NGE will be freed! And together we lag out at Coronet spamming, "Free at last! Free at last! Thank you SWGEmu devs, for we are free at last!"
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Just a naive implementation of fauna system that resembles original SWG world can easily use up 100 Gigs of ram per planet.
There used to be a server zone map somewhere, showing that SWG planets are split into zones, and each planet consists out of some 40-100 different physical servers. It's not that they are incompetent, the world is just that big.
The skepsis is very warranted.
You will have to (re)buy a game and it would ofc. have one of those stupid names that SOE alwasy come up with for there packs.
And then when you would buy it... You wouldnt know how long the fun will last since they got your money. Mybe 3 months... Mybe 6. So I don't know if any one would think about Jedi grinding tbh
SWG ADDICT...clean since the NGE
People are putting this EMU idea up on a pedastal because they are so desperate for something like what the game used to be. This really isn't it though... Not unless these EMU guys are getting paid to make sure the game is fair. It will not be the same.
i dont give a shit about "fair" or "balanced" or "exploits". i never have. im not one of the gimme gimme group. i dont see someone else doing something or having something cool and start crying about not having it myself. friggin crybabies are what ruined the game in the first place. i will play how i always have, with honor and respect, anyone whom i encounter who does not give honor and respect back will be avoided from then on, its just that simple. but i never got bent out of shape if others had different playstyles. i just felt sorry for them and moved on. if someone wants to run around in god mode, more power to em. i get my joy and satisfaction out of EARNING (a concept lost w/ the NGE) what i get, not running around PWNING ppl. personally im leaning towards the emu called "pureSWG". looks to be an older crowd who just wanna play the game we bought.
and honestly, the NGE players are full of disrespectful idiots, which is why i ended up just playing by myself those last few months, and eventually cancelled. the NGE is unplayable for me, that is a fact. nothing they do to polish that turd is gonna change that fact. i consider it an insult to my intelligence and a slap in the face to what i worked hard to accomplish in SWG over the years.
i know what your're saying, but i just dont care. an unsupported, godmoded, exploited, preCU server is a 1000x better than an SOE supported NGE. imho, the best mmo's simulate life, and life is not fair. i want my mmo to be as realistic as possible.
stick with your NGE, keep paying full price for 10% of the game, enjoy the improved customer relations, quicker, more polished updates, non existant GCW, nerfed into oblivion, fake ass jedi/BH's, cookie cutter professions, and your short attention span twitch fest over there. ill be over here having fun. these fucking forums are more fun than the NGE.
SWG ADDICT...clean since the NGE
to me its really simple.
i love SWG, however, Sony products are no longer allowed in my home. so the emu is my only hope. i will continue to support it until i see a reason not to. makes sense right?
SWG ADDICT...clean since the NGE
People are putting this EMU idea up on a pedastal because they are so desperate for something like what the game used to be. This really isn't it though... Not unless these EMU guys are getting paid to make sure the game is fair. It will not be the same.
i dont give a shit about "fair" or "balanced" or "exploits". i never have. im not one of the gimme gimme group. i dont see someone else doing something or having something cool and start crying about not having it myself. friggin crybabies are what ruined the game in the first place. i will play how i always have, with honor and respect, anyone whom i encounter who does not give honor and respect back will be avoided from then on, its just that simple. but i never got bent out of shape if others had different playstyles. i just felt sorry for them and moved on. if someone wants to run around in god mode, more power to em. i get my joy and satisfaction out of EARNING (a concept lost w/ the NGE) what i get, not running around PWNING ppl. personally im leaning towards the emu called "pureSWG". looks to be an older crowd who just wanna play the game we bought.
and honestly, the NGE players are full of disrespectful idiots, which is why i ended up just playing by myself those last few months, and eventually cancelled. the NGE is unplayable for me, that is a fact. nothing they do to polish that turd is gonna change that fact. i consider it an insult to my intelligence and a slap in the face to what i worked hard to accomplish in SWG over the years.
i know what your're saying, but i just dont care. an unsupported, godmoded, exploited, preCU server is a 1000x better than an SOE supported NGE. imho, the best mmo's simulate life, and life is not fair. i want my mmo to be as realistic as possible.
stick with your NGE, keep paying full price for 10% of the game, enjoy the improved customer relations, quicker, more polished updates, non existant GCW, nerfed into oblivion, fake ass jedi/BH's, cookie cutter professions, and your short attention span twitch fest over there. ill be over here having fun. these fucking forums are more fun than the NGE.
Is that your vein poking out there ? Chill..............................
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
As a perma banned forum account user under (adamrk) on the SOE boards now and my main (iskareot) is not -- I will wait to pay for the 15.00 to rant again.
The one thing I do not get, or will understand is since the summit meeting in Indy, I thought people had more gal or sense.
The NGE players right now are settling for sub-par communication, code and game. THEY actually are looking for ways to justify why they are there???
To me this is just unreal, I actually use the term SHEEP lightly as I do not want to think it's like that but it really is. I hate to see these people just buy into the Dev responses and bullshit they have fed them.
So far the NGE glee club member forgot about: the 6 month target date for failure, the fact of them saying things would be fixed and faster due to the fact there is only 9 classes now, when in fact this has not happend at all, not to mention when they do release things that most of the time they have been broke.
These are just a few but I just cannot understand why they still think they are being told the truth and that everything is fine.
Most of them are glad they got free Jedi, yet they have no idea what the old one was like.. I guess in the end and (so far) time has told them how this is going... people quiting, jumping ship --- quiting the team.
Don't think so???? GO LOOK AT THE JOBS NEEDED ON LA's SITE AND SOE's --- LOL, you will find how bad SWG is right now..lol (You dont see them asking for devs, marketing dirs, project leaders for any other games lol) ---- But hey, Facts are just that... facts.
You choose to see them or not I guess.
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I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Lol yeah right.... if a single one of them came back it would be career suicide. So far it's funny to see whom Bio Ware has gobled up. I think the fact that we actually have to HOPE that somthing happens to the game says things best.
Right now, I would like to see it fail even faster... I want LA to feel it, SOE to know it and for the next company that takes it over to apologize for it.
Right now, if I was a dev memeber of that team I would be looking for a Job and a way to get out from under that mess. Being known as the guy that is working on this game is just not somthing to brag about.
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I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Why is that? Because I used facts most of the time? Or was it because I used the obvious to point things out?
Love it or leave it I fought for the old game back -- I canceled isk after the NGE -- I used my friends account (adamrk) to post... Since beta 2 I fought for the game and supported the ideas of it.. the NGE changed that.
At least I made a stand and stuck to it, I did not fray or cave in... I did not act like I was for the Devs, or supporting them in any fashion... and trust me I knew a few since beta of the game.
I have thick skin, one has to have that after changing my song to rant against the NGE but I call it as I see it and for that I at least got alot of support. I was not a panzy ass player and liked the hard side of the game.... I thihk when they took that all out the game was lost...
SO far it seems like I was right when I protested against the NGE from the get go.
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I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Why is that? Because I used facts most of the time? Or was it because I used the obvious to point things out?
Love it or leave it I fought for the old game back -- I canceled isk after the NGE -- I used my friends account (adamrk) to post... Since beta 2 I fought for the game and supported the ideas of it.. the NGE changed that.
At least I made a stand and stuck to it, I did not fray or cave in... I did not act like I was for the Devs, or supporting them in any fashion... and trust me I knew a few since beta of the game.
I have thick skin, one has to have that after changing my song to rant against the NGE but I call it as I see it and for that I at least got alot of support. I was not a panzy ass player and liked the hard side of the game.... I thihk when they took that all out the game was lost...
SO far it seems like I was right when I protested against the NGE from the get go.
This is why
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I have only had one cup of Java this morn, please explain.
lol---
Oh and yes, I did love the game.... trust me on that. It was amazing at one time, it really was.
(Although being a SONIC YOUTH fan also tells me your not 14)..lol
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I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
I have only had one cup of Java this morn, please explain.
lol---
Oh and yes, I did love the game.... trust me on that. It was amazing at one time, it really was.
On a side note take a long look at my avatar .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I have only had one cup of Java this morn, please explain.
lol---
Oh and yes, I did love the game.... trust me on that. It was amazing at one time, it really was.
On a side note take a long look at my avatar .
Hmm.... short of you being JemyM, Jedi of the Hills or JustinTimberlake I must say unless your a fanboi -- 9 times out of ten I had no issues with anyone. Unless of course you supported "the change" with no future...etc..lol
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
I have only had one cup of Java this morn, please explain.
lol---
Oh and yes, I did love the game.... trust me on that. It was amazing at one time, it really was.
On a side note take a long look at my avatar .
Hmm.... short of you being JemyM, Jedi of the Hills or JustinTimberlake I must say unless your a fanboi -- 9 times out of ten I had no issues with anyone. Unless of course you supported "the change" with no future...etc..lol
I like buffalo wings , Does that make me a fanboi ?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I think the correct term is:
The current SOE team won't let that happen.
Lets face facts if it came back it wouldnt be the same buzz we had at launch, we're older and wiser now people. But it would be a good laugh I can guarantee that. Just about everyone who left still keeps in touch with guildies or on the forums so people would still be up for creating a community of sorts.
If it doesn't work out, what have we lost? absolutely nothing
Quite frankly I'd rather pick the peanuts out of smedley's shit than play the current version so if it does happen soon count me in.
I have only had one cup of Java this morn, please explain.
lol---
Oh and yes, I did love the game.... trust me on that. It was amazing at one time, it really was.
On a side note take a long look at my avatar .
Hmm.... short of you being JemyM, Jedi of the Hills or JustinTimberlake I must say unless your a fanboi -- 9 times out of ten I had no issues with anyone. Unless of course you supported "the change" with no future...etc..lol
I like buffalo wings , Does that make me a fanboi ?
Nope not of SWG... however I too am a fan of BW3's --- I prefer blazin' (Did alot of that in school) ..
Like I said, short of trying to actually think that the game went in the right direction and was handled well with the NGE I was a great supporter of the game. Sure it needed fixes but not like this, you cannot "fix" getting back players let alone pretend new ones.
Not sure your angle though, I looked at your Avatar and thought... hmm, it looks like Billy Barty from a bad movie I cannot recall lol.
Like that Leprachan movie or somthing lol.
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Ok so I loved the game but that peanuts part? Can I pay someone to do that instead?
I do pretty well and if that was a choice... I would much rather go that way lol.
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
I have only had one cup of Java this morn, please explain.
lol---
Oh and yes, I did love the game.... trust me on that. It was amazing at one time, it really was.
On a side note take a long look at my avatar .
Hmm.... short of you being JemyM, Jedi of the Hills or JustinTimberlake I must say unless your a fanboi -- 9 times out of ten I had no issues with anyone. Unless of course you supported "the change" with no future...etc..lol
I like buffalo wings , Does that make me a fanboi ?
Nope not of SWG... however I too am a fan of BW3's --- I prefer blazin' (Did alot of that in school) ..
Like I said, short of trying to actually think that the game went in the right direction and was handled well with the NGE I was a great supporter of the game. Sure it needed fixes but not like this, you cannot "fix" getting back players let alone pretend new ones.
Not sure your angle though, I looked at your Avatar and thought... hmm, it looks like Billy Barty from a bad movie I cannot recall lol.
Like that Leprachan movie or somthing lol.
Trolls lol , Na since you are the first to really ever ask , I must say the game blows now .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
And keep up the good work Isk in giving those robbing bastards shit in a constructive manner, I wish I had the patience to do it myself
/salute
Pembroke
Bria
TY man, I did get alot of emails of support -- I did what I could and it did get seen... I have about 20 PMs from Devs in proof of that one.
lol
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
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