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So im shifting my theory from "this doesnt happen in the animal/nature world" to "most of the time homosexual relationship cannot reproduce".
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
I left and went to another guild. Got on teamspeak and it was gay this and gay that and fa* and fa* that and thats just evil. Who wants to be in a guild filled with hatemongers?
I say good for them to make their own guild where they can play without being harassed by other players.
Yes, I do. It is not for me to judge others.
You should look up what Jesus says about Pharisees. Jesus would forgive and embrace a homosexual but would exhibit anger towards people who would express hate or judgment towards God's children - including those who sin, and not just those who have sex outside of marriage, but liars, theives, gambelers, people who curse others or take the lord's name in vain. If you read the Bible, the times when Jesus expresses the most anger and scorn are when people use God and religion as a tool for hate or persecution. These people who have studied the word of God should know better, and they are liars in their own hearts.
Yes, this is true, but it still says it's "WRONG".
Whoooooo!! Can I become honorary gay?! Sounds like fun...
Good luck, people. Have fun
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It should be thrown with great force"
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O rly?
"Male penguin couples have been documented to mate for life, build nests together, and to use a stone as a surrogate egg in nesting and brooding. In 2004, the Central Park Zoo in the United States replaced one male couple's stone with a fertile egg, which the couple then raised as their own offspring.[10] German and Japanese zoos have also reported homosexuality among their penguins. This phenomenon has also been reported at Kelly Tarlton's Aquarium in Auckland, New Zealand."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual
Now how do you explain that???
Christians are funny
Animals in the wild have exhibited bisexuality in nearly every species. . . most especially mammals (like us). Also, our history shows that early polytheistic cultures that did not have a disapproving religion were often bisexual.
We are creatures of the culture we live in and ironically the fact that most of us are heterosexual instead of bisexual is not "natural" by any scientific or historical use of the term. However, what people are saying when they say that homosexuality is not natural is that they disapprove of it because our culture encourages disapproval.
This is changing though. Increasingly, people who behave like bigots toward homosexuals are being treated like people who are bigots about any other group. . . they are ostracized and disliked by all people who do not share their hateful views.
@CaedesAstrum
Homosexuality also appears among apes/monkey.
And keep in mind that only 1% of our dna makes us different from monkeys.
Seriously why would anyone want to make an all black or white guild or christian guild (well christian I can understand because almost every thing I say would offend a hardcore bible thumper and so would what most of my friends say. Still think its stupid.) I can understand mexican or asian guilds usually because its for the language there playing an international game and want to be able to type in spanish so I can see gathering everyone else that wants to do that together but other than the language reason if its something else its stupid. Anyhow that's my opinion I think its good damn stupid and problematic to segregate ourselves.
First, how is it a weak argument to show that homosexuality is natural because it occurs in nature so often?
Second, you are incorrect to think of sexuality as a choice. While studies are not certain whether or not sexuality is nature or nurture; they can so that it isn't a choice. For instance, if you are like me then you probably couldn't choose to be gay. You couldn't just wake up and decide that you'd like to date other men because you wouldn't be wired that way. Though you could attempt to change and choose to be gay, you'd probably still be attracted to females and not attracted to males.
You answered your own question right there.
They want their own guild so that they can avoid people who are hateful toward others in regards to sexuality. . . It might not seem like a big deal to call things "ghey" when they are effeminate or stupid, but I know gay people who do not like it. Also, they might want to play together because they have topics in common. I know I wish I was in another room whenever one of my gay friends start talking about fashion or man-sex, and they know that so they avoid the subject, but I realize that they enjoy those topics as much as I like talking about football and cars, subjects my gay friends don't care about at all.
This statement proves that you aren't black. . . or you are incredibly misguided.
In any case, you aren't making any sense. You say you understand why a gay-friendly guild would try to recruit gay-friendly people, and then you say you don't understand right afterward. What can someone say to that?
Maybe I didn't phrase what i meant properly for example I don't understand why guilds would go around and actively advertise hey were a gay guild on game website's etc. I think its something that belongs in the guild charter on your guild website stating what occurs in guild chat etc and if it would offend you don't join. I can understand things like that its making clear what happens in your guild but not making it be the primary focus of your guild. I don't understand why guilds would go around and make names like "White Power" the all white guild or "Christ's Sheppards" or "The Rainbow Legion" which is making your guild primarily about those things. Which is what I can't understand. It's like asking people that are uncomfortable with those subjects to target you. Now the post on the God and Heroes forums is far different than what is discusses in this topic and I understand the first post he's trying to find open minded people to start a guild he can enjoy and it makes sense but when reading the thread here it seems more focused on what I posted above. Anyhow that's it for me on this subject.
I loathe 'positive' discrimination of any type.
I wouldnt employ a man just because he is black, and I wouldnt form a guild with a man just because he is gay, or otherwise. As far as I can see it being gay is a sexual orientation and not a definition of a personality type... What kind of recruitment basis is who ya wanna sleep with for a gaming guild???
Whether gay is natural or not is irrelevant and beyond proof at this point either way, so why do people continue to argue it? Noone here has any kind of inside knowledge, and frankly having read a few books that you probably chose in the first place because you agree with their agenda just dosent count. It's just dumb, and really has no place in a gaming forum.
In rl, I have 'ethnic'. gay, and *shock* even female friends who I socialise all the time, and why would a game online be different?
why does it burn when i pee?
sorry, just thought i'd lighten the mood with a little humor. for all i know i've been in guilds/clans with many
cross-cultural people, never harmed my gaming to the least. as a matter of fact, might of enhanced it some,
as every p.a. i was in helped me much.
why does this thread even exist except to troll? in games most people like to forget the
real world and come together with people from all corners of the earth to have fun. THAT is what a
mmorpg IS.
1. You are incorrect. There are scientific studies that show that sexuality is a result of either genetics (nature) or early childhood (nurture). In either case, it is unchangeable, present throughout history in all cultures, some of which embraced bisexuality as the norm rather than heterosexuality, and it is a common behavior amongst all mammals in nature. There are peer-reviewed scientific articles by people who have spent their lives studying human behavior that support that homoseuxality is natural.
2. In regards to your question quoted in the second paragraph above, they do so as many have stated in order to avoid discrimination and sexual epithets, and also because they might want to meet other gay people while they play. While I certainly don't flirt with anyone male or female when playing MMOs, I know people who have a lot of fun doing this and I even know a couple who met through an online game who are now married. Maybe they would like to have this as a possibility.
mmmm, I can almost taste you