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SWG Q&A and Test Center
Xcathdra
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Helios explains the difference.. Apparently Test Center is not really a Test Center... Cant imagine why stuff doesnt work properly..
Helios_SOE wrote:
The QA departments at SOE and Lucas Arts have been testing this event for weeks. This weekend is more intended to give you guys a try at it before it rolls out on live servers; it's not what we rely on for testing.
Sad... simply sad..
Xcathdra
Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars..
Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons...
Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.
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Sad... simply sad..
Xcathdra
Wow so I guess theyve been lying to everybody for 3 years on this too?
"There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
Boba Fett
Sad... simply sad..
Xcathdra
So then the a propos question:
What on earth does SOE use for testing if not test server? Is it the live server? (and Smedley has said that they rolled the CU and the NGE on live servers because they needed more people to test it.)
Players to Senators
is same as
Live server to ________
Hint: Both are there, adequately named, but serve no purpose.
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When Sony and Lucas set out to create the NGE, we said, How can we do this and make it similar to WoW? We wanted it to be all about Iconic characters like Luke, combat and locking our players into a class. So we created a system that would restrict players and make all professions the same and there would be minimal gameplay around making that change. We definitely borrowed a lot of ideas from WoW that worked and figured out how to make them fit for SWG Julio Torres (2005)
Helios is a moron
Hope that sheds some light on the subject.
Heck, if I were a SOE Executive (thank God I am not), I would have fired this mythical Q&A staff about 20 times now. There has been no "Q" and the "A" apparently stands for .... (Pick one)
Absent
Aberration
Abominable
Anemic
Apathetic
Asses (and other variations)
There really have been very few releases / chapters that have seen the light of day that even appear to have been looked at. Besides, even IF their QA did their jobs right, do you think SOE would ever delay something that compiled?
They have delayed a few releases here and there to be fair. They must have been screw-ups of legendary proportions.
I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever
Sad... simply sad..
Xcathdra
I'd like to hear almagill's take on Helios' quote, he's a TC regular.
Kinda makes you wonder, if they have been doing this all along, if this is the reason we ended up with the NGE... They took everyone complaining about bugs as a request to change the game. Im sure they thought that if Q & A tested it then its the players who are having problems with the game.
Xcathdra
Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars..
Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons...
Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.
right on the money man.
We're sitting in our offices thinking of ways to upset our paying customers. I think were on track to meet that goal.
John Smedley
Sad... simply sad..
Xcathdra
To some extent I think I feel for the guy though. He was put into that position, he can't go against what the game became, so he tries to fix what he can.
But in the big picture, he's just the deck attendant on the Titanic. Where's the captain, the big designer of the NGE, the person who created it, whatshisname? Oh yea, published NGE, then bailed to another project within days. Or that other person who bailed to LA right after NGE? All people who are truly responsible for it are gone.
Helios, for better or worse, while being despised by most of playerbase, just found himself in this position for one reason or another. He can't change anything, the deal was done, people responsible for it have bailed, he's just cleeanup crew ("Oh, don't like blood on the wall, we'll paint it red, don't like brains on the floor, we'll comb it and make carpet out of it").
One would think that Ethics / Standards would have to be involved somewhere in Helios decision to take on as Lead Designer... I me come on, its not like he didnt know what he was getting into... I for one would of passed, no matter what title it is, or how great it is. Sometimes you jsut have to fold your hand and leave the table.
Xcathdra
Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars..
Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons...
Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.
Interesting thing about this doctrine is, that it doesn't come from evil intentions. It's just a modern day rationalization of complexities of life, into an easily measured index. In many ways, it's much easier to live this way, than it is to be concerned with complexities of ethics, morals, relationships, honesty, loyalty, and all other inter-human aspects.
It actually says a lot about the world we live in. Why not just boil everything down to one number, the profit.
True.. I jsut wish people over there who code this game would take a stand though and tell managment what needs to be done to fix the game... I know it will never happen.. I jsut wish it would..
Xcathdra
Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars..
Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons...
Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.
be used for stress tests and load tests. All bug hunting, testing of
new content, all the testing that you don't know about is done on a
seperate cluster that is not connected to the main clusters. Face it,
TC is just a stress device. Thats good because there is always lag to
fix and other problems that occur when a lot of people log in to play.
The problem is though they dont bother to fix the bugs that arise from the Test Center...
Xcathdra
Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars..
Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons...
Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.
"There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
Boba Fett
Well, it's all relative. Maybe he thought he could do some good as a SWG dev.
Or maybe he didn't care, and thought, "its just a video game", and another step up the career ladder for him.
"There are two kinds of spurs, my friend. Those that come in by the door; those that come in by the window"
But to actually see someone type that... is just plain suprising. I mean I KNEW it, but to have them admit it.
/stunned
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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/roll eyes
Some insight for you - If they have internal testers "doing the work for us", they should all be fired for not doing their job!!! Blatant bugs are constantly being introduced live. I was led to believe the players that participated in the Test Center(s) were actually assisting in Q&A, but now it has been confirmed that the Test Center is actually a glorified "Preview Server".
/roll eyes
Some insight for you - If they have internal testers "doing the work for us", they should all be fired for not doing their job!!! Blatant bugs are constantly being introduced live. I was led to believe the players that participated in the Test Center(s) were actually assisting in Q&A, but now it has been confirmed that the Test Center is actually a glorified "Preview Server".
only for the restuss event, yes.
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