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A genre that is rarely seen

I can't remember if this has been brought up before, however I am curious as to how many people would favor a Cyberpunk MMORPG?

I will admit that it is a very, very, very niche genre to make any game out of but the litterature is out there to help support it.

I find that Cyberpunk as a genre could possibly bring more than just your basic "Kill joy" entertainment that you get in WoW.  Of course, one would need to provide the right tools to make something like this work.  A game like this couldn't work under a strictly "Missions/Quests" design so it would more than likely need to be Sandbox allowing for the creation of player created and imagined inventions, puzzles, the works.

I was wondering what everyones thoughts would be on such a genre given the fact that other than the Matrix, nothing is really mainstream about it.

(1997) UO --> EQ -> Runescape -> DAoC -> WoW -> EVE + WAR (2008)

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  • SovySovy Member Posts: 11

    Isn't there also Neocron and Anarchy Online that could be considered cyberpunk?

  • TreborLockeTreborLocke Member Posts: 72


    Originally posted by Sovy

    Isn't there also Neocron and Anarchy Online that could be considered cyberpunk?


    Cyberpunk is set in the near future, about 50-100 years.  I believe those games are set quite a bit beyond that.

    (1997) UO --> EQ -> Runescape -> DAoC -> WoW -> EVE + WAR (2008)

  • DeletedAcctDeletedAcct Member Posts: 883
    30,000 years for AO.
  • NullapaxNullapax Member Posts: 401
    A phrase I allways liked was "SteamPunk". Sort of conjures up images of an anarchistic close future without the internal combustion engine etc etc.

    It will take a bold company to risk anything too different from the mainsteam and sucsesfull games of today.
    Hopefully, as the MMORPG market reaches maximum player saturation, companies will start to risk different ideas in order to hit on a winner.
    For now though I fear we are stuck with magical Elves, axe wielding Dwarves and Goblins galore for some time to come


  • RK-MaraRK-Mara Member Posts: 641
    Mad Max Online 

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  • SpaggsSpaggs Member Posts: 14
    I really wish they would make Shadowrun a MMORPG. Mayby make it like the old Sega Genesis version but with new graphixs of coarse, I used to play that non stop.  Well anyway just throwing out the idea. Would be  a great Cyberpunk game in the MMO market i think.
  • TinybinaTinybina Member Posts: 2,130
    I remember a long time ago watching a friend play a game where you could build your own little town (For lack of a better word) and were others online  could assualt your town and vice versa.. The reason why I bring this up is because it had that "Cyberpunk" look to it complete with hoverboards that you could ride around.. I have no clue what the name of it was but it was about 8 years ago and it was in 3D..

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  • RK-MaraRK-Mara Member Posts: 641
    In AO guilds can do buildings for their own areas etc. Bit off-topic because AO is way over cyberpunk.

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  • I have been singing the praises of Cyberpunk for the longest time and it warms my heart to see even more people gravitating to it now.

    The genre is vast and intricate; a world filled with intrigue, monolithic corporations, technological nightmares, genetic and cybernetic enhancements, brutal streetgangs, computer hackers, advanced weaponry, despair...but the will to survive.

    Shadowrun would make an awesome MMOG but...

    There aren't any MMOG developers competent or capable enough to tackle a project of this scope.

     




  • GrimSkunk2GrimSkunk2 Member Posts: 451
    Is Auto Assault a title to fall into this category?  If it is, I'd say it is a genre that may be doomed.

    -W.

  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201

    Originally posted by GrimSkunk2
    Is Auto Assault a title to fall into this category?  If it is, I'd say it is a genre that may be doomed.

    Not really.

    Cyberpunk is typically a semi-futuristic world where corporations and government have essentially merged into a police state. Technology is rampant...embedded within the human condition (implants, etc...). Usually it's a world of lone hackers battling it out against corporate security. It is most absolutely not a post-apocalypitic world. It's supposed to seem a lot like today, just reflected forward a few decades so as to allow for some imaginative conflicts.

    This is definitely an under-realized genre, which is ripe for the picking. Someone, someday, will pick this up and run with it.

    Oh, and CyberPunk != SteamPunk. Those are vastly different ideas.

  • CalalCalal Member Posts: 15

    Although I'd personally be more interested in seeing some Steampunk (Troika's Arcanum setting for example, technology vs magic, but rather without the elves, gnomes and orcs) or Post-apocalyptic games (if it would have the '50's vision of the future with zapguns, Mr. Handy, fallout shelters, and lots and lots of spandex as in Fallout, I' d be sold from the first minute), I would deffinatly be keeping an eye on such things being in development.

    Cyberpunk would indeed offer a huge scope of roleplay and gameplay possibilities when done right. From picking your role in society (be it corporate lackey, streetgang member, ecoterrorist, bounty hunter or doomsday preacher) to how you will try to affect the world by for example hacking corporate databases to tracking down and eliminating the rogue elements in corporate society.

    I'm not entirely sure if this is more of a sub-divission of the genre, but didn't there used to be a Cyberpunk Call of Cthulhu pnp game?
  • Jerek_Jerek_ Member Posts: 409


    Originally posted by ianubisi

    Originally posted by GrimSkunk2
    Is Auto Assault a title to fall into this category?  If it is, I'd say it is a genre that may be doomed.

    Not really.
    Cyberpunk is typically a semi-futuristic world where corporations and government have essentially merged into a police state. Technology is rampant...embedded within the human condition (implants, etc...). Usually it's a world of lone hackers battling it out against corporate security. It is most absolutely not a post-apocalypitic world. It's supposed to seem a lot like today, just reflected forward a few decades so as to allow for some imaginative conflicts.
    This is definitely an under-realized genre, which is ripe for the picking. Someone, someday, will pick this up and run with it.
    Oh, and CyberPunk != SteamPunk. Those are vastly different ideas.


    so, Ghost in the Shell would fit this?  Thats an MMO concept I'd love to play.
  • kahnzkahnz Member Posts: 244

    yeah, Ghost in the Shell concepts could easily be worked into a cyberpunk game, and it would rock.

  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201

    Blade Runner is also solidly in the realm of Cyber Punk...though maybe just a bit of a precursor to some of the full-blown fiction.

  • NullapaxNullapax Member Posts: 401


    Originally posted by ianubisi


    Oh, and CyberPunk != SteamPunk. Those are vastly different ideas.


    Re-read my post - I never said they were



    EDIT = I'm allmost tempted to do a poll of W. Gibson fans here but dread being either ignored or flooded


  • Originally posted by GrimSkunk2
    Is Auto Assault a title to fall into this category?  If it is, I'd say it is a genre that may be doomed.



    No, Auto Assault is in it's own little world...thank god!

    To learn more about Cyberpunk you can go here and here. The genre really has tons and tons of potential but, unfortunetly, to develop a MMOG that really realizes that potential would require a level of commitment far beyond the capacity of any developer in existence today.

    Personally I think a really well made Cyberpunk MMOG would suck all other Sci-Fi MMOGs dry of subscribers!


  • joejccva71joejccva71 Member UncommonPosts: 848


    Originally posted by poopypants
    I have been singing the praises of Cyberpunk for the longest time and it warms my heart to see even more people gravitating to it now.The genre is vast and intricate; a world filled with intrigue, monolithic corporations, technological nightmares, genetic and cybernetic enhancements, brutal streetgangs, computer hackers, advanced weaponry, despair...but the will to survive. Shadowrun would make an awesome MMOG but...There aren't any MMOG developers competent or capable enough to tackle a project of this scope.  


    I'm sure there is a developer out there that will do this eventually. There's always one developer that knows more than someone else. :)

  • chungalungchungalung Member Posts: 17
    an mmo gerne that is very rare... anything that is not fantasy rpg, or sci-fi on ground fps related.

    i tell you man, the mmo market and the playerbase have a very short attention span when it comes to developers creating or created an mmo that is very different from fantasy rpg or sci-fi fps related games.
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  • Originally posted by joejccva


    Originally posted by poopypants
    I have been singing the praises of Cyberpunk for the longest time and it warms my heart to see even more people gravitating to it now.The genre is vast and intricate; a world filled with intrigue, monolithic corporations, technological nightmares, genetic and cybernetic enhancements, brutal streetgangs, computer hackers, advanced weaponry, despair...but the will to survive. Shadowrun would make an awesome MMOG but...There aren't any MMOG developers competent or capable enough to tackle a project of this scope.  




    I'm sure there is a developer out there that will do this eventually. There's always one developer that knows more than someone else. :)


    OK joe, maybe competent wasn't the best word to use, so how 'bout this...

    Shadowrun would make an awesome MMOG but...

    There aren't any MMOG developers with enough vision or courage to tackle a project of that scope.

    There, that's better.
  • joejccva71joejccva71 Member UncommonPosts: 848

    Cool. :)

  • VolkmarVolkmar Member UncommonPosts: 2,501

    Neocron and Face of Mankind are both cyberpunk.

    Sadly neither did a big impact nor success so far.

    AO i would not say it is Cyberpunk, not in the least.

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  • JestunhiJestunhi Member UncommonPosts: 40

    Theres a fine line between cyberpunk, sci fi and post apoc.

    Most futuristic games out there are post apoc or sci fi.

    There arent any MMO's out there right now which i would clasify as cyber punk.

    :edit:

    Face of Mankind could be considered cyberpunk i guess... Neocron is definatly post apoc.

  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201


    Originally posted by Nullapax

    Originally posted by ianubisi
    Oh, and CyberPunk != SteamPunk. Those are vastly different ideas.
    Re-read my post - I never said they were EDIT = I'm allmost tempted to do a poll of W. Gibson fans here but dread being either ignored or flooded image

    I didn't say you did.

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