good question. I wonder if there is actual criteria for a war to be called a "world war". If I were to guess, I'd say if more than 1/2 of the worlds military resources are involved in a war, then it becomes a "World War". Not so much dependent on the number of countries, but rather the amount of military power involved.
Originally posted by Faemus good question. I wonder if there is actual criteria for a war to be called a "world war". If I were to guess, I'd say if more than 1/2 of the worlds military resources are involved in a war, then it becomes a "World War". Not so much dependent on the number of countries, but rather the amount of military power involved.
yeah, I guess that'd be one way to define it. I wonder if the first 2 would meet the benchmark
Usually not until several years into it when it becomes apparent that many powers from most or all continents are participating in some way (economically or militarily). World War 1 wasn't know as that until World War 2. That's when we were sadly forced to number them. Even World War 2 wasn't know as such for a few years.
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Even the size of the states that could be involved, mirror potential escalation in an almost mathematical proportional way. Israel is small. Lebanon is tiny. Syria is a little bigger then Lebanon. Iraq is a little bigger then Lebanon. Iran is a little bigger then Iraq. Saudi is a little bigger then Iran.
Originally posted by Nerf09 Even the size of the states that could be involved, mirror potential escalation in an almost mathematical proportional way. Israel is small. Lebanon is tiny. Syria is a little bigger then Lebanon. Iraq is a little bigger then Lebanon. Iran is a little bigger then Iraq. Saudi is a little bigger then Iran.
ya but if i was gonna name the nation most likely to be the most significant cause of a World War.
It would have to be israel....
hands down.
if you think bush and the US like to bomb things send troops in and go to war without UN Sanction. Israel wrote that god damn book
before the golf war they had bombed Iraq enough times to burn down a small state in the US entirely.
israel also deploys special forces troops more then any other military i can think of in history.
the US is more or less open about who it attacks with the most obvious exception of the cambodian invasion in the Vietnam war, and Macarthur almost going to war with china during the Korean War.
Israel will bomb, assasinate, and inconvience any nation it deems unfriendly and dangerous any feasible change it gets.
thats why it hasnt been taken over yet, i guarantee you the muslim nation or coalition of them that tries to invade isreal even if sucessful would take enough colateral and reputation damage to be ruined.
that is why egypt is no longer 1/10 as scary seeming as it was 40 50 years ago.
Israel is the one loose cannon that has a right to be, being the only christian/jewish nation surrounded on all sides by unfriendly muslim powers i would be a bit snappy too.
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Originally posted by iReki i guess they wouldn't call it world war if it didn't have a negative effect on the whole world like WW1 and WW2 which still today people are thinking about.
All wars have a negative effect on the whole world.
Originally posted by iReki i guess they wouldn't call it world war if it didn't have a negative effect on the whole world like WW1 and WW2 which still today people are thinking about.
All wars have a negative effect on the whole world.
When the civilized nations, that is, those with indoor plumbing, go at it. Right now it is only a third world war, as opposed to WW 3, which is fought by nations in the third world, that is, those with no indoor plumbing.
Originally posted by Vergeltung ya but if i was gonna name the nation most likely to be the most significant cause of a World War.
It would have to be israel....
I'd name the U.S.
It has the power and the over confidence. It hasn't been invaded for a couple of hundred years (ish) and it has forgotten what it feels like. It is an expansionist empire and pushing against the borders of some powerful nations. The economic wealth of it's people is dependant on foreign trade and it can't afford not to interefere in the lives of others.
After 11/9 the American people are on the warpath.
George Bush although funny is a very scarey person.
Originally posted by baff Originally posted by Vergeltung ya but if i was gonna name the nation most likely to be the most significant cause of a World War. It would have to be israel....I'd name the U.S. It has the power and the over confidence. It hasn't been invaded for a couple of hundred years (ish) and it has forgotten what it feels like. It is an expansionist empire and pushing against the borders of some powerful nations. The economic wealth of it's people is dependant on foreign trade and it can't afford not to interefere in the lives of others. After 11/9 the American people are on the warpath.George Bush although funny is a very scarey person.
the people of the US are not on a warpath. http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm that is a bunch of polls showing the approval ratings of the war in Iraq. It is 9/11 not 11/9. and the senate gave the ability to declare war to Bush. The people of the US are not on a warpath the government of the us is.
11/9/2001 the 11th of September 2001.
9/11 is a shop named after it's opening hours.
The people of the U.S. are on the warpath. They have invaded two countries so far. The president didn't do it on his own. And in the general election that followed, he was re-elected.
I of course understand that every single U.S. citizien would not have made the same decisions the president did and that public opinion varies from person to person and fluctuates as events unfold.
America is like Russia. A giant. Slow to anger but fearsome once awoken.
For an idea of America's disposition currently, make a mental note each time you read an opinion about a moslem. 6 years ago, no one in America thought like that. The giant is awake, and he's angry.
Isn't it usually decided by historians? But anyways, look at the world maps at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_war to give an idea on what it takes for a world war.
Originally posted by baff Originally posted by cornoffcob
the people of the US are not on a warpath. http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm that is a bunch of polls showing the approval ratings of the war in Iraq. It is 9/11 not 11/9. and the senate gave the ability to declare war to Bush. The people of the US are not on a warpath the government of the us is.
11/9/2001 the 11th of September 2001.
9/11 is a shop named after it's opening hours.
The people of the U.S. are on the warpath. They have invaded two countries so far. The president didn't do it on his own. And in the general election that followed, he was re-elected.
I of course understand that every single U.S. citizien would not have made the same decisions the president did and that public opinion varies from person to person and fluctuates as events unfold.
America is like Russia. A giant. Slow to anger but fearsome once awoken.
For an idea of America's disposition currently, make a mental note each time you read an opinion about a moslem. 6 years ago, no one in America thought like that. The giant is awake, and he's angry.
I've never really heard anyone say the 11th of Semtpember 2001.
Originally posted by carolane2 Originally posted by Manmadegod When it stops involving 3rd world shit hole countries and starts to involve couontries that have global impacts.
Exactly what i was thinking, but not with same words really
Yeah, I dont have a knack for sugar coating it. But that's basically the truth a fun quote about WW3 though...
"I do not know of which weapons world war 3 will be fought with but world war 4 will be fought with sticks and stones."
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And to be honest, i really dont want to find out.
lol.
I'd guess when more then 0.0000001% of the Planet's Gross Product is spent on a war. So far, everyones pussyfooting around, in a cold-war kind of way.
good question. I wonder if there is actual criteria for a war to be called a "world war". If I were to guess, I'd say if more than 1/2 of the worlds military resources are involved in a war, then it becomes a "World War". Not so much dependent on the number of countries, but rather the amount of military power involved.
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when more guns and ammunition are bought and sold world wide then soft drinks
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ya but if i was gonna name the nation most likely to be the most significant cause of a World War.
It would have to be israel....
hands down.
if you think bush and the US like to bomb things send troops in and go to war without UN Sanction. Israel wrote that god damn book
before the golf war they had bombed Iraq enough times to burn down a small state in the US entirely.
israel also deploys special forces troops more then any other military i can think of in history.
the US is more or less open about who it attacks with the most obvious exception of the cambodian invasion in the Vietnam war, and Macarthur almost going to war with china during the Korean War.
Israel will bomb, assasinate, and inconvience any nation it deems unfriendly and dangerous any feasible change it gets.
thats why it hasnt been taken over yet, i guarantee you the muslim nation or coalition of them that tries to invade isreal even if sucessful would take enough colateral and reputation damage to be ruined.
that is why egypt is no longer 1/10 as scary seeming as it was 40 50 years ago.
Israel is the one loose cannon that has a right to be, being the only christian/jewish nation surrounded on all sides by unfriendly muslim powers i would be a bit snappy too.
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i guess they wouldn't call it world war if it didn't have a negative effect on the whole world like WW1 and
WW2 which still today people are thinking about.
i guess they wouldn't call it world war if it didn't have a negative effect on the whole world like WW1 and
WW2 which still today people are thinking about.
Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy
It would have to be israel....
I'd name the U.S.
It has the power and the over confidence. It hasn't been invaded for a couple of hundred years (ish) and it has forgotten what it feels like. It is an expansionist empire and pushing against the borders of some powerful nations. The economic wealth of it's people is dependant on foreign trade and it can't afford not to interefere in the lives of others.
After 11/9 the American people are on the warpath.
George Bush although funny is a very scarey person.
the people of the US are not on a warpath.
http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm
that is a bunch of polls showing the approval ratings of the war in Iraq.
It is 9/11 not 11/9.
and the senate gave the ability to declare war to Bush.
The people of the US are not on a warpath the government of the us is.
I hope some day we can all put aside our racisms and prejudices and just laugh at people
11/9/2001 the 11th of September 2001.
9/11 is a shop named after it's opening hours.
The people of the U.S. are on the warpath. They have invaded two countries so far. The president didn't do it on his own. And in the general election that followed, he was re-elected.
I of course understand that every single U.S. citizien would not have made the same decisions the president did and that public opinion varies from person to person and fluctuates as events unfold.
America is like Russia. A giant. Slow to anger but fearsome once awoken.
For an idea of America's disposition currently, make a mental note each time you read an opinion about a moslem. 6 years ago, no one in America thought like that. The giant is awake, and he's angry.
Isn't it usually decided by historians? But anyways, look at the world maps at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_war to give an idea on what it takes for a world war.
11/9/2001 the 11th of September 2001.
9/11 is a shop named after it's opening hours.
The people of the U.S. are on the warpath. They have invaded two countries so far. The president didn't do it on his own. And in the general election that followed, he was re-elected.
I of course understand that every single U.S. citizien would not have made the same decisions the president did and that public opinion varies from person to person and fluctuates as events unfold.
America is like Russia. A giant. Slow to anger but fearsome once awoken.
For an idea of America's disposition currently, make a mental note each time you read an opinion about a moslem. 6 years ago, no one in America thought like that. The giant is awake, and he's angry.
I've never really heard anyone say the 11th of Semtpember 2001.
It's Septemer 11th, 2001....9/11/01 or 9/11
When it stops involving 3rd world shit hole countries and starts to involve countries that have global impacts.
Yeah, I dont have a knack for sugar coating it. But that's basically the truth a fun quote about WW3 though...
"I do not know of which weapons world war 3 will be fought with but world war 4 will be fought with sticks and stones."
Tentative answer:
- When countries on most continents are involved
- When ALL/most of these countries FEAR for their security or survival
- When world domination is at stake
Yeah, that would summarize the main 3 points IMO. I think Bush is "honest" when he says he is at war on terror, he is really afraid.
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Thats unfounded. I live in America and I agree with Carolane2... I have not ever heard it called the 11th of Sept.