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LOTRO problems

ZdradeZdrade Member Posts: 10
I want to know why the heck they arent designing the game so that people could play on the darkside of the lotr world.

In my opinion this is a big mistake. I mean, just imagine all the cool PVP possibilies they have in a LOTR MMO, gimme a break.

Personally i would love to be a ring wraith type character and go around pwning newb elves. but thats just me. Essentially, id be all over this game if that was the case.


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  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Member RarePosts: 4,006

    LoTRO is still in testing.

    As for all MMOs in development, just check in on it from time to time. Things can change. I'm hoping for a way to play evil as well. Time will tell.

     

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  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201

    From the FAQ:




    For many reasons, we have concluded that alignment would not be appropriate to the world of LOTRO at launch. Your choices when creating a character are restricted to the races of the Free Peoples of Middle-earth: Humans, Elves, Dwarves, and Hobbits. The themes of this world center more around different races banding together against a common evil.

    I think it's the right decision. It would be extremely out of character for Orcs to posess enough bravado and intelligence to, let's say, lead a raid on the Shire. Orcs live in abject terror of Sauron...and what player is going to fill that role? All of Melkor's minions are, in effect, puppets.

  • TamalanTamalan Member Posts: 1,117


    Originally posted by Zdrade
    Personally i would love to be a ring wraith type character and go around pwning newb elves.

    Probably for that exact reason.
  • SycondamanSycondaman Member Posts: 262


    Originally posted by remyburke

    LoTRO is still in testing.
    As for all MMOs in development, just check in on it from time to time. Things can change. I'm hoping for a way to play evil as well. Time will tell.
     


    Wrong in this case.  Beta testing is opening soon, so they don't have time for any major changes.  Plus they've stated very sternly that they do not intend for evil characters to be playable at release.
  • asupermaneasupermane Member Posts: 682

    my prediction

    lotro = failure

    but if they do pull something off..they'll have to compete with aoc, war, sto, and biowares ...

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182


    Originally posted by Zdrade
    I want to know why the heck they arent designing the game so that people could play on the darkside of the lotr world.

    In my opinion this is a big mistake. I mean, just imagine all the cool PVP possibilies they have in a LOTR MMO, gimme a break.

    Personally i would love to be a ring wraith type character and go around pwning newb elves. but thats just me. Essentially, id be all over this game if that was the case.




    Heaven forbids they make an mmorpg that isn't all about pvp for once.
  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201


    Originally posted by asupermane
    they'll have to compete with aoc, war, sto, and biowares ...

    And all the other games on the market. You have a flare for stating the obvious?

  • theanimedudetheanimedude Member UncommonPosts: 1,610


    Originally posted by asupermane
    my predictionlotro = failurebut if they do pull something off..they'll have to compete with aoc, war, sto, and biowares ...

    I for one will support the game, and I know my girlfriend will as well.

    The fact is, they are trying for a more story driven game (heaven forbid) than most, with a different purpose. If they want to be different, I will support them in every way. God knows we need it.

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  • RanddRandd Member Posts: 409

    I really hope that turbine does a better job with lotr than they did with ddo.

  • ChessackChessack Member Posts: 978


    Originally posted by Zdrade

    Personally i would love to be a ring wraith type character and go around pwning newb elves.




    And that's probably why they don't want to allow it.

    Designers have a choice. They can make a game fun for the teeny-tiny, itty-bitty proportion of the audience that likes to go around "pwning" people (and though they are VERY vocal, they are a VERY tiny minority -- check stats at the Daedalus Project in various surveys to see that this is so). Or, they can make fun for the vast, enormous majority that is not into "pwnage" and "ganking." I think preventing people like you from doing just what you are saying you want to do, is the obvious right decision for most games -- at least in the West. The Asian market is very different, but then the Asian market is clearly not the target of Lord of the Rings, which is a game based on a Western intellectual property.

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  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201


    Originally posted by Chessack

    which is a game based on a Western intellectual property.C

    Literature is not really "intellectual property".

  • ZdradeZdrade Member Posts: 10


    Originally posted by Chessack

    Originally posted by Zdrade

    Personally i would love to be a ring wraith type character and go around pwning newb elves.



    And that's probably why they don't want to allow it.

    Designers have a choice. They can make a game fun for the teeny-tiny, itty-bitty proportion of the audience that likes to go around "pwning" people (and though they are VERY vocal, they are a VERY tiny minority -- check stats at the Daedalus Project in various surveys to see that this is so). Or, they can make fun for the vast, enormous majority that is not into "pwnage" and "ganking." I think preventing people like you from doing just what you are saying you want to do, is the obvious right decision for most games -- at least in the West. The Asian market is very different, but then the Asian market is clearly not the target of Lord of the Rings, which is a game based on a Western intellectual property.

    C


    The truth of the matter is, by not letting players experience the game from both sides as they want, they are in fact losing a large amount of players who would want to play this game.

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182


    Originally posted by Zdrade

    Originally posted by Chessack

    Originally posted by Zdrade

    Personally i would love to be a ring wraith type character and go around pwning newb elves.



    And that's probably why they don't want to allow it.

    Designers have a choice. They can make a game fun for the teeny-tiny, itty-bitty proportion of the audience that likes to go around "pwning" people (and though they are VERY vocal, they are a VERY tiny minority -- check stats at the Daedalus Project in various surveys to see that this is so). Or, they can make fun for the vast, enormous majority that is not into "pwnage" and "ganking." I think preventing people like you from doing just what you are saying you want to do, is the obvious right decision for most games -- at least in the West. The Asian market is very different, but then the Asian market is clearly not the target of Lord of the Rings, which is a game based on a Western intellectual property.

    C


    The truth of the matter is, by not letting players experience the game from both sides as they want, they are in fact losing a large amount of players who would want to play this game.


    It would scare away a lot more players if they would allow it. it would go completely against the lore. besides, what use is it to split up the community?
  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201


    Originally posted by Zdrade
    The truth of the matter is, by not letting players experience the game from both sides as they want, they are in fact losing a large amount of players who would want to play this game.

    And your proof for this claim is...what?

  • NitrockNitrock Member UncommonPosts: 86


    Originally posted by Zdrade
    I want to know why the heck they arent designing the game so that people could play on the darkside of the lotr world.

    In my opinion this is a big mistake. I mean, just imagine all the cool PVP possibilies they have in a LOTR MMO, gimme a break.

    Personally i would love to be a ring wraith type character and go around pwning newb elves. but thats just me. Essentially, id be all over this game if that was the case.




    They want you to see it through the eyes of the Fellowship.
  • ZdradeZdrade Member Posts: 10
    The only proof i need is the fact that I think this game would only be worth playing if it wasnt so one sided. I'm sure im not the only one that would want to be able to play on the side of evil.

    And i highly doubt placing in some sort of PVP would scare off any players, good PVP helps to create a valuable endgame experience as well. ex. DAoC


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  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201


    Originally posted by Zdrade
    The only proof i need is the fact that I think this game would only be worth playing if it wasnt so one sided. I'm sure im not the only one that would want to be able to play on the side of evil.


    That's not proof. That's simpy you saying "I won't play it if I can't play evil."

    Maybe many more agree with you. Perhaps you are even right. But learn to differentiate between "truth" and the expression of your opinion. Your opinion is simply that: an opinion.

  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077

    At the rate DDO is going Turbine may be bankrupt before LOTRO goes live so this could all be a moot point if DDO doesn't maintain it's subscriber base.  


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  • theanimedudetheanimedude Member UncommonPosts: 1,610

    Just a little FYI, and yes, this is completely random since I read this topic earlier but...

    I was just watching Electric Playgound on G4, and it was a re-run from May.

    They happened to be interviewing the CEO of Turbine who just happened to talk about a mode in game where you would play Orcs, Ring Wraiths, etc.

    There will be instanced missions, similar to story lines (I guess kind of like GW, just speculation though) where you are in "Monster Mode" (yes, that's what he called it) and you will play enemy characters for that section of the game, to further the story.

    He really didn't say much except for the fact that it was possible, and that they were doing more testing on the subject.

    That's about it, but I hope it gets your hopes up a bit.

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  • DesalusDesalus Member UncommonPosts: 848
    I would have loved to have seen a LOTR MMO that would have let the players determine how the story ends. Instead of having players simply do quests over and over, to progress through a linear storyline, I would have much rather have seen two sides players can join(Good and Evil) battling with each other to determine the outcome of Middle Earth. Wouldn't giving that control to players be much more exciting than simply completing quests in a predetermined storyline?

     

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  • theanimedudetheanimedude Member UncommonPosts: 1,610


    Originally posted by Desalus
    I would have loved to have seen a LOTR MMO that would have let the players determine how the story ends. Instead of having players simply do quests over and over, to progress through a linear storyline, I would have much rather have seen two sides players can join(Good and Evil) battling with each other to determine the outcome of Middle Earth. Wouldn't giving that control to players be much more exciting than simply completing quests in a predetermined storyline?

    yes and no.

    don't forget, you need to keep the IP in tact, therefore limiting the flexibility.

    Although good vs evil battles would be fun, who knows. Time shall tell.

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  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Member RarePosts: 4,006


    Originally posted by Sycondaman

    Originally posted by remyburke

    LoTRO is still in testing.
    As for all MMOs in development, just check in on it from time to time. Things can change. I'm hoping for a way to play evil as well. Time will tell.
     

    Wrong in this case.  Beta testing is opening soon, so they don't have time for any major changes.  Plus they've stated very sternly that they do not intend for evil characters to be playable at release.


    It's not too late as long as the game hasn't been released. I've seen it time and time again with other MMOs over the past 10 years. Never take anything at face value.

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  • tummblertummbler Member UncommonPosts: 267

    An online linear RPG.

    I doubt LotRO will do very well for the lack of replay-ability. Making a mmorpg where the world, lore, characters etc. were in line with MIDDLE EARTH, rather than just the "lord of the rings" books would be a lot more popular, in my opinion. There are already LotR rpgs out there(offline). Most people flock to mmorpgs with the hope of creating there own story and growing stronger and walking their path with friends and strangers alike... not following some already drawn out storyLINE.


    Sure.. you may point out guildwars as a plausible success story as a Linear mmorpg. But in gw you do map out a story. a story filled by PVP action. A very different story but still a story for those type of gamers.


    LotRo = waste of money by Turbine. Unless they somehow drastically change their plans for lotRo, they'll be lucky to make it out of this one.

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  • scaramooshscaramoosh Member Posts: 3,424
    Lotro is a game that should have perfect PVP, instead they go for gay pve

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  • ManmadegodManmadegod Member Posts: 501
    LOTR made for some damn good movies but the game is gonna blow. Anything that has been made by turbine post AC has been a complete failure. So, why would this be any different. AND it's only PvE with no option of PvP please. They could have taken the game and made it slightly more like DAOC and even if the rest of the game was crap people woulda played for race wars... Why play a EQ clone with Elf, dwarf, orc, crap, etc when you could play a better EQ clone marketed by EQ dev team that will be Vanguard if you fancy carebear games?

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