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A call for a Star Wars MMO.

AdamskaAdamska Member Posts: 129
Hello boys and girls.

I just want to see how many people here would like to see a competent developer design a Star Wars MMO that could appeal to us... The "masses."

In my opinion, Star Wars is cool because of the several different things that are happening at any given time, and the vastness of the realm. No other story has had this many different authors and game designers creating books and games about it. It covers anything you want. Busy cities full of cutthroats and beggars, vast deserts and prairies for those looking to start their own communities.

So yeah, I for one call for a Star Wars MMO.


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  • asupermaneasupermane Member Posts: 682

    Hey fellow star wars fan.

    Theres a lot of SW fans on here,

    and a lot of angry swg fans out there. 

    and a lot of people wanting a new SW mmo.

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  • suskesuske Member Posts: 714
    i add my voice to yours. no other i.p. has the depth of star wars. just don't let $oe handle it and im there.
  • KuzzleKuzzle Member Posts: 1,058
       I'd probably play a new SW MMO if one came out. Hopefully, it wouldn't focus on the Jedi, or any of that stuff... Actually, I think I'd rather play a well developed original Sci-Fi game...
  • AdamskaAdamska Member Posts: 129
    Interesting. Well, I think it should go back to the old way where random accounts are force sensitive, and you can choose to be or not, and that bounty hunters are almost always on you. I would like a jedi, but I'd rather have the freedom to build cities and have a wife. I don't want to be celibate :(

    Maybe we should start our own dev team. I can draw decently.. Hehe.


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  • Nieves004Nieves004 Member Posts: 21

    I couldn't find the article saying that this was going to be in the Sci-FI Genre, but i'm nearly sure i read it somewhere. I've even heard rumors of a SWG:2. Honestly though, no one knows. Just keep an eye on this.

    ''BioWare has announced it's opening an Austin, Texas-based development studio to work on its first ever massively multiplayer online RPG.

    BioWare Austin's first project aims to combine "the best of BioWare's great past games with a compelling persistent online experience," the company's helpful press release noted''

    http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=63250

    Edit: After Reading all the replys of people desperate for Pre-CU/NGE SWG. Hope it won't get me in trouble, doubt it will. Check this out though...

    www.swgemu.com

    It's an SWG emulation of the Pre-CU/NGE SWG, Forget which patch it is up to, i think right before they started to f' things up.

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  • asupermaneasupermane Member Posts: 682
    Now, if biowares sw mmo is a kotor based, now thats friggen awesome

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  • AdamskaAdamska Member Posts: 129
    Holy shit. If bioware makes an SWG MMO, it would be the best ever. Especially if it's set in the Old Republic. 

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  • theanimedudetheanimedude Member UncommonPosts: 1,610

    They would not let two star wars MMOs sit side by side, it just wouldn't work. You would be essentially be splitting the SW fanbase in half (well more 99/1 since SWG sucks) but the point is, it would be stupid. One would take a playerbase from the other, therefore making the entire point null and void.

    It is a great thought, and I would surely play, but it will never happen ::::21::

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  • BissrokBissrok Member Posts: 1,002
    It'd be stupid of them to make another one. SWG had low ratings to start with, showing them (true or not) that not too many people want to play a Star Wars MMORPG. They had a deep, complex game, and it didn't bring in WoW-like numbers. Then they made it resemble EQ and they lost subs. Then they made it into a "fast paced" FPS MMO. It did even worse.

    LA's not going to settle for a few hundred thousand. "Hey guys, just make something that'll entertain them. It doesn't have to make too much money, just something that'll make them happy". They'd be stupid to risk all that time and money to build a new SW MMO when it looks like there's no market for it. Especially since it would have to compete with another one. That splits a very small market into even smaller pieces. And at least Galaxies had the movies to help boost sales.


  • SmirchSmirch Member Posts: 163


    Originally posted by theanimedude

    They would not let two star wars MMOs sit side by side, it just wouldn't work. You would be essentially be splitting the SW fanbase in half (well more 99/1 since SWG sucks) but the point is, it would be stupid. One would take a playerbase from the other, therefore making the entire point null and void.
    It is a great thought, and I would surely play, but it will never happen ::::21::


    Its happening. The Lucas guys aren't too happy with the raping of their IP that has transpired with SWG and BioWare is working on a second SW mmo.

    Saying that two star wars MMORPGs can't exist at the same time is like saying you can't have a T-bone steak because theres sloppy joe fixings already available. SWG is a horrible mess now and is circling the bowl. Time for something new.

    With the wealth of mythology the star wars universe has you could have a half dozen MMORPGs running at the same time and still not have the timelines intersect.

    My wishlist...a Yuuzhan Vong/New Jedi Order mmo!!
  • theanimedudetheanimedude Member UncommonPosts: 1,610


    Originally posted by Smirch

    Originally posted by theanimedude
    They would not let two star wars MMOs sit side by side, it just wouldn't work. You would be essentially be splitting the SW fanbase in half (well more 99/1 since SWG sucks) but the point is, it would be stupid. One would take a playerbase from the other, therefore making the entire point null and void.
    It is a great thought, and I would surely play, but it will never happen
    Its happening. The Lucas guys aren't too happy with the raping of their IP that has transpired with SWG and BioWare is working on a second SW mmo.Saying that two star wars MMORPGs can't exist at the same time is like saying you can't have a T-bone steak because theres sloppy joe fixings already available. SWG is a horrible mess now and is circling the bowl. Time for something new.With the wealth of mythology the star wars universe has you could have a half dozen MMORPGs running at the same time and still not have the timelines intersect.My wishlist...a Yuuzhan Vong/New Jedi Order mmo!!

    Having 2 SWG MMOs would be like SOE making an EQ and an EQ 2... oh wait... ::::18::

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  • seabass2003seabass2003 Member Posts: 4,144



    Originally posted by Adamska
    Hello boys and girls.

    I just want to see how many people here would like to see a competent developer design a Star Wars MMO that could appeal to us... The "masses."

    In my opinion, Star Wars is cool because of the several different things that are happening at any given time, and the vastness of the realm. No other story has had this many different authors and game designers creating books and games about it. It covers anything you want. Busy cities full of cutthroats and beggars, vast deserts and prairies for those looking to start their own communities.

    So yeah, I for one call for a Star Wars MMO.


    How about have someone design a game that doe NOT appeal to the masses, but instead design a game for Star Wars fans?

    That seems to be what is currently wrong with most MMO's is they are trying to appeal to everyone and are plaesing no one.

    Companies need to figure out who they want as their customers and only please them. We all know the saying "You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all the people all the time." or some shit like that.

    I think I am tired disregard this post.

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  • theanimedudetheanimedude Member UncommonPosts: 1,610


    Originally posted by seabass2003
    Originally posted by Adamska Hello boys and girls. I just want to see how many people here would like to see a competent developer design a Star Wars MMO that could appeal to us... The "masses." In my opinion, Star Wars is cool because of the several different things that are happening at any given time, and the vastness of the realm. No other story has had this many different authors and game designers creating books and games about it. It covers anything you want. Busy cities full of cutthroats and beggars, vast deserts and prairies for those looking to start their own communities. So yeah, I for one call for a Star Wars MMO. How about have someone design a game that doe NOT appeal to the masses, but instead design a game for Star Wars fans?
    That seems to be what is currently wrong with most MMO's is they are trying to appeal to everyone and are plaesing no one.
    Companies need to figure out who they want as their customers and only please them. We all know the saying "You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all the people all the time." or some shit like that.
    I think I am tired disregard this post.

    Nah, it made perfect sense.

    Now they need to stop pleasing people who want graphics and fast gameplay, and start pleasing those of us who don't care about the graphics, as long as they make the game intelligent for once ::::15::

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  • braddeusbraddeus Member Posts: 20
    A SW MMO:

    -Would have to take place before RotS or at least several years after RotJ.  Best bet would be to go old Republic, like KotOR.
    -Would have to include Jedi.  There is really no way around this.  I don't particularly like the "random Force sensitives" either, but anything that prevents every player from rolling three Jedi is a good thing.

    I always thought a SW MMO would quite literally write itself.  All the design legwork has already been done.  Professions, done.  Races, done.  Worlds, done.  Sad that SOE proved me wrong.


  • grimbojgrimboj Member Posts: 2,102


    Originally posted by Bissrok
    It'd be stupid of them to make another one. SWG had low ratings to start with, showing them (true or not) that not too many people want to play a Star Wars MMORPG. They had a deep, complex game, and it didn't bring in WoW-like numbers.





    wrong wrong wrong :)
    SWG had 350,000 people playing before they nerfed it, in case youre wondering - thats a lot!
    SWG2 would draw the full fan base in as long as it wasnt made by SOE + more star wars fans that just never got to the game because of its reputation.

    Any game has the potential to grow to wow-like numbers as long as it has the content and keeps its members, word of mouth is all that made wow successful.

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  • paranoidpvpparanoidpvp Member Posts: 539

    I didn't hear about SWG until after the nerf, my buddy had a jedi character and when the nerf came he was pissed about it. That's when I heard about the game... If SWG2 came out I'd be in line to play for sure... and yes 350,000 accounts IS alot.

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  • DeletedAcctDeletedAcct Member Posts: 883


    Originally posted by theanimedude

    They would not let two star wars MMOs sit side by side, it just wouldn't work. You would be essentially be splitting the SW fanbase in half (well more 99/1 since SWG sucks) but the point is, it would be stupid. One would take a playerbase from the other, therefore making the entire point null and void.
    It is a great thought, and I would surely play, but it will never happen ::::21::


    Sure they would. The second one would take away the last stragglers of SWG and SOE would finally be able to do the decent thing and shut their servers down
  • kahnzkahnz Member Posts: 244


    Originally posted by Bissrok
    It'd be stupid of them to make another one. SWG had low ratings to start with, showing them (true or not) that not too many people want to play a Star Wars MMORPG. They had a deep, complex game, and it didn't bring in WoW-like numbers. Then they made it resemble EQ and they lost subs. Then they made it into a "fast paced" FPS MMO. It did even worse.

    LA's not going to settle for a few hundred thousand. "Hey guys, just make something that'll entertain them. It doesn't have to make too much money, just something that'll make them happy". They'd be stupid to risk all that time and money to build a new SW MMO when it looks like there's no market for it. Especially since it would have to compete with another one. That splits a very small market into even smaller pieces. And at least Galaxies had the movies to help boost sales.



    LA has been making games for a long time.  I think they would be pretty happy with "a few hundred thousand" $15 dollar subscriptions coming in every month.

    SWG had a horrible launch (like most 2nd gen MMOs). SOE had planned to have NO jedi.  They were planning on only using one planet for the whole game then people raised so much hell on the forums that they made tons of last minute changes to the core game.  It was released before it was finished.  It had tons of people playing at first, but many quit in the first couple of months because of the bugs.  Those who stayed with it loved it.  It wasn't just diehard Star Wars fans.  It was a good skill based Sc-Fi MMO.

    I dunno anything about another SW MMO coming out, but I do know that they wouldn't have to worry about splitting up their fan base.  SWG was a ghost town when I played before NGE.  I can imagine what it is like now.

  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077


    Originally posted by Smirch

    Originally posted by theanimedude

    They would not let two star wars MMOs sit side by side, it just wouldn't work. You would be essentially be splitting the SW fanbase in half (well more 99/1 since SWG sucks) but the point is, it would be stupid. One would take a playerbase from the other, therefore making the entire point null and void.
    It is a great thought, and I would surely play, but it will never happen ::::21::

    Its happening. The Lucas guys aren't too happy with the raping of their IP that has transpired with SWG and BioWare is working on a second SW mmo.

    Saying that two star wars MMORPGs can't exist at the same time is like saying you can't have a T-bone steak because theres sloppy joe fixings already available. SWG is a horrible mess now and is circling the bowl. Time for something new.

    With the wealth of mythology the star wars universe has you could have a half dozen MMORPGs running at the same time and still not have the timelines intersect.

    My wishlist...a Yuuzhan Vong/New Jedi Order mmo!!




    Agree with you except your first paragraph.  Bioware has not announced WHAT they are making... it could be a Star Wars MMO or it could be a Fantasy based MMO or, hell, it could be tiddlywinks online for all we know. 

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  • vendrisvendris Member Posts: 246

    I would kill for a star wars MMO based on the x-wing / tie fighter series.  Forget running around on the ground killing space-rabits to level up to level 2.  I want to strap myself into the cockpit of an x-wing and reenact some of the great battles of star wars history with hundreds of other people.

    I can't think of a game with more appeal to me... to get a chance to be a pilot in an x-wing squad in an MMO with integrated voice chat so I can sit here with my headset on and my flight stick repeating cheesy star wars dialogue and going "red 5 standing by" while dogfighting against friends of mine flying tie fighters while star destroyers and mon calamari cruisers slug it out with each other... and if I could take place in a battle like the battle of hoth, in an MMO, I think I'd die from joy.

    I want a *star wars* mmo, not a freaking everquest clone reskinned with star wars skins. I think pre-CU star wars galaxies was just as horrible as post-CU star wars galaxies.



  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077


    Originally posted by vendris

    I would kill for a star wars MMO based on the x-wing / tie fighter series.  Forget running around on the ground killing space-rabits to level up to level 2.  I want to strap myself into the cockpit of an x-wing and reenact some of the great battles of star wars history with hundreds of other people.

    I can't think of a game with more appeal to me... to get a chance to be a pilot in an x-wing squad in an MMO with integrated voice chat so I can sit here with my headset on and my flight stick repeating cheesy star wars dialogue and going "red 5 standing by" while dogfighting against friends of mine flying tie fighters while star destroyers and mon calamari cruisers slug it out with each other... and if I could take place in a battle like the battle of hoth, in an MMO, I think I'd die from joy.

    I want a *star wars* mmo, not a freaking everquest clone reskinned with star wars skins. I think pre-CU star wars galaxies was just as horrible as post-CU star wars galaxies.





    Obviously you never played SWG after JTL (Jump to Lightspeed, the Space Combat expansion) came out...

    You don't re-enact any of the big battles and it kinda languished with no major updates till ROTW hit... but you do get lots of missions for space combat...

    And, by the by, SWG wasn't an EQ Clone.  It was absolutely nothing like EQ... till the NGE hit anyway.  (other than you gained skill in your combat areas by attacking/killing things (Stormtroopers, Tuskan Raiders, yes 'creatures' as well etc.  But you gained skill in non-combat areas by *gasp* doing non-combat type things.  SWG was more UO re-skinned with Star Wars graphics than anything else.

    I swear I get sick of the "EQ in Space" crowd.  NOW it's EQ in Space.  Before the NGE it was a very unique and unparallelled game.  Sure it had bugs and some balance issues.  But overall it was the best MMORPG on the market.  SWG ruined it by pushing the NGE live.

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  • AdamskaAdamska Member Posts: 129
    Why not both? I personally hate flying in space games... There's just no.... Gravity?

    But yeah, WOW I beleive had it's numbers because it brought in hundreds of thousands of people who had never played MMO's before... Because of the blizzard title. I know atleast 40 people that I work with thtat play it, and it's all their first MMO.

    So I think that if a SWG2 came out, there would be a broader gaze to be fixed. And I'm sure if a good enough company makes it, it will likely succeed. I only hope Bioware is making it.

    I want it either in the old republic, or right before Episode III.


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  • AdamskaAdamska Member Posts: 129


    Originally posted by Elnator

    Originally posted by vendris

    I would kill for a star wars MMO based on the x-wing / tie fighter series.  Forget running around on the ground killing space-rabits to level up to level 2.  I want to strap myself into the cockpit of an x-wing and reenact some of the great battles of star wars history with hundreds of other people.

    I can't think of a game with more appeal to me... to get a chance to be a pilot in an x-wing squad in an MMO with integrated voice chat so I can sit here with my headset on and my flight stick repeating cheesy star wars dialogue and going "red 5 standing by" while dogfighting against friends of mine flying tie fighters while star destroyers and mon calamari cruisers slug it out with each other... and if I could take place in a battle like the battle of hoth, in an MMO, I think I'd die from joy.

    I want a *star wars* mmo, not a freaking everquest clone reskinned with star wars skins. I think pre-CU star wars galaxies was just as horrible as post-CU star wars galaxies.




    Obviously you never played SWG after JTL (Jump to Lightspeed, the Space Combat expansion) came out...

    You don't re-enact any of the big battles and it kinda languished with no major updates till ROTW hit... but you do get lots of missions for space combat...

    And, by the by, SWG wasn't an EQ Clone.  It was absolutely nothing like EQ... till the NGE hit anyway.  (other than you gained skill in your combat areas by attacking/killing things (Stormtroopers, Tuskan Raiders, yes 'creatures' as well etc.  But you gained skill in non-combat areas by *gasp* doing non-combat type things.  SWG was more UO re-skinned with Star Wars graphics than anything else.

    I swear I get sick of the "EQ in Space" crowd.  NOW it's EQ in Space.  Before the NGE it was a very unique and unparallelled game.  Sure it had bugs and some balance issues.  But overall it was the best MMORPG on the market.  SWG ruined it by pushing the NGE live.


    I'll agree there, I would still be playing if the NGE hadn't been put out.

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  • DeletedAcctDeletedAcct Member Posts: 883


    Originally posted by vendris

    I would kill for a star wars MMO based on the x-wing / tie fighter series.  Forget running around on the ground killing space-rabits to level up to level 2.  I want to strap myself into the cockpit of an x-wing and reenact some of the great battles of star wars history with hundreds of other people.

    I can't think of a game with more appeal to me... to get a chance to be a pilot in an x-wing squad in an MMO with integrated voice chat so I can sit here with my headset on and my flight stick repeating cheesy star wars dialogue and going "red 5 standing by" while dogfighting against friends of mine flying tie fighters while star destroyers and mon calamari cruisers slug it out with each other... and if I could take place in a battle like the battle of hoth, in an MMO, I think I'd die from joy.

    I want a *star wars* mmo, not a freaking everquest clone reskinned with star wars skins. I think pre-CU star wars galaxies was just as horrible as post-CU star wars galaxies.





    I agree that any Star Wars game should have space battles for those who want to be pilots. However, 90% of the action in Star Wars did not occur in space, it occured on the gound. Blasters,lightsabers,bow rifles,bounty hunters,Jedi,Sith,Republic,Empire. That ia why people want pre-NGE and pre-cu. Not everyone wants to be a Jedi or a Sith Master or a pilot. Any Star Wars mmo  that does not give everyone a chance to be what they want to be will die the same way as SWG. You need those 30+ professions to do that, as SWG had in the beginning.
  • AdamskaAdamska Member Posts: 129
    Yep. I'd still be playing pre cu.

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