What if they brought back the CU?

AdevDarkstar · July 2006

Would you go back if they brought back the CU and not Pre CU?

chronictoker · July 2006

in a heartbeat. even tho it wasn't as good as pre-cu it was still fun as hell and i enjoyed it greatly

Wildcat84 · July 2006

The CU wasn't as good as pre-CU, but at least it had most of the elements of the game.

However, what would they do about all the respec Jedi?

If they do classic servers, they may do CU servers instead of pre-CU ones, as the expansions would work. That would disappoint me, if I am going to have to start over (and I don't mind doing that) I'd rather it be pre-CU.

Distopia · July 2006

No that system is what did most of my guildies in , when I think of CU I think of darker times than NGE .

AdevDarkstar · July 2006

Just wanted to see what you everyones thoughts were on this, I played pre CU for 4 months and loved it, was pissed when they implemented the CU but stuck with it and learned to love it as well. The NGE on the other hand is the biggest piece of crap I have ever seen. I would definately go back for CU or Pre CU.

Maxzius · July 2006

Originally posted by AdevDarkstar
Would you go back if they brought back the CU and not Pre CU?

Without a doubt.

Distopia · July 2006

Originally posted by Wildcat84
The CU wasn't as good as pre-CU, but at least it had most of the elements of the game.

However, what would they do about all the respec Jedi?

If they do classic servers, they may do CU servers instead of pre-CU ones, as the expansions would work. That would disappoint me, if I am going to have to start over (and I don't mind doing that) I'd rather it be pre-CU.

What if they brought Pre-cu back and kept Jedi As a starter class yet not an alfa ? /shrug

ebenholt · July 2006

I would not. CU was somewhat ok but combat levels is what I detest most in MMOs. The way cl+skilltrees mix in the CU was just bad.

Fignar · July 2006

Nope i wouldn't due to the fact that the changes made to combat affected crafting i.e Armorsmith. As encumberance became reduntant it meant Armorsmiths couldn't experiment to create a diversity in the Armor as you could before. Instead of compensating the profession with something to counter balance this they left it. Also they made the amount of resources needed a bit stupid and made to many sweeping changes in what resources the Armors used which meant that if you spent say 2 years gathering all these resources and then find out that half of them are useless you were screwed.

So if they actually revamped the crafting (not just AS but WS etc) so it was engaging, allow players to experiment and create unique items to one another that are usefull and needed by the players then fair enough i might consider it. However considering one of the Devs, Blixtev who was working on Armorsmith was the most egotistical person I've had the pleasure of actually seeing in action, refusing to listen to what players said was wrong with the CU interms of armorsmith and just having the "screw you its my way or no way" attitude i doubt very much that will happen. So I doubt very much they will have my custom

Shuckles · July 2006

Originally posted by AdevDarkstar
Would you go back if they brought back the CU and not Pre CU?

I would throw up. Then continue my search for a decent game run by a decent company.

Wildcat84 · July 2006

Originally posted by Malickiebloo

Originally posted by Wildcat84
The CU wasn't as good as pre-CU, but at least it had most of the elements of the game.

However, what would they do about all the respec Jedi?

If they do classic servers, they may do CU servers instead of pre-CU ones, as the expansions would work. That would disappoint me, if I am going to have to start over (and I don't mind doing that) I'd rather it be pre-CU.

What if they brought Pre-cu back and kept Jedi As a starter class yet not an alfa ? /shrug

My thought of solution is this:

Elder Jedi: You get to choose and fill your 6 FS lines, then 226 SP's to spend on any Jedi skill boxes and you are eligible for the Knight Trials.

NGE Jedi CL90: You may spend 250 SP's on any non Jedi or non-FS skill boxes you want, or you may choose and fill your 6 FS lines and train the Initiate and Padawan boxes. You must then grind out your 226 SP template.

Any other NGE Jedi: You may spend your SP's on any non Jedi or non FS skill boxes you want. You may choose your 6 FS unlocks but won't be given any XP to fill them with, you must grind FS XP, then do the unlock quest.

I think that is the fairest way to do it. Elders should be full template, no question. Respecs get more than they deserve, IMHO, by being given the Padawan box.

Athela · July 2006

The only advantage of the CU over the NGE was all 32 professions existed, although in a really trashy state.

chronictoker · July 2006

the cu combat system was way better than this nge bullcrap. and the 32 proffesions and skill tree was great too imo

Elnator · July 2006

Yes
Matter of fact I'd go back to the CU even if it was accompanied by a full char wipe.

A lot of people tout Pre-CU as 'the best' but, personally, I preferred post-CU. Sure some things got a little wonky with the CU (Combat Levels being displayed and modifying dmg, etc) but a LOT of huge issues with pre-CU got fixed by the CU as well. Overall I much preferred post-CU SWG.

It's sort of important to note that Combat Levels were always there. Even in Pre-CU. They just didn't really do anything. With CU they gave combat level a small modifier to damage and ability to hit/be hit based on how much higher or lower your combat level was than the ***NPC*** oponents. Combat Level was not counted in PVP combat.... At All.

I also didn't like that they took away battle fatigue DURING CU (it wasn't touched at first.) I'd pretty much like to see CU come back but lengthen the doc buffs back to their old durations, but keep them at the reduced levels they were given with CU. So a doc could buff in town still if they so chose but they weren't as absolutely mandatory as they were before. And not modify battle fatigue, etc. CU was very very good stuff once you got used to it. A lot of folks never really gave it a chance, which is what inspired the idiots at SOE and LEC to go ahead with the NGE.

Matter of fact that's one of the things I'm angriest about. All these "We want Pre-CU Back" idiots are what caused the NGE in the first place. They bitched and moaned and griped and whined DURING Pre-CU that they wanted the combat upgrade. Well then they GOT the combat upgrade and STILL griped and bitched and cancelled and griped and whined and LEC and SOE said "awe crap lets make this thing more like a standard MMO so that it's easier to learn for new players, to hell with the crybabies". Now, I do blame LEC and SOE for the NGE... it is utter crap. But I also blame the whiners for giving them the ability to "justify" going to it.

"You weren't happy so we changed it".

FZR600R · July 2006

I would, much of the original game remained intact although somewhat altered levels nonwithstanding. I think it improved slowly but steadily overtime and just before the NGE it was pretty decent. To bad they didn't concentrated their resources into completing the prof revamp instead of launching NGE.

MX13 · July 2006

IF they did a rollback? Yes, the CU wasn't as good, but it was playable. We actually were having a TON of fun on Musty, they were starting to go in the right direction with it. The CU had negatives, and positives. But I'd rather play Pre-CU, even if I had to start over. I'd pay another $50 to play the Original CU that was never released.

Valley82 · July 2006

i would love that to happen. The CU would be closer to SWG than what the current NGE is. The first week or 2 of mustafar before the NGE was a great place. I was enjoying the new content and missions and the blasted landscape and activly grouping with players and friends i hadnt seen in many months to over a year. One thing we all said while riding mustafarr together in the skiff was for some reason "this feels like star wars". It was a feeling i cant explain, everything just seemed to fit together and it looked like SOE were on the right path.

CU gave my Smuggler a more active role in groups and i loved being the root guy/snare guy. If someone got swamped by mobs then that was my fault so i felt a certain level of responsability to keep the mobs contained

i didnt like the armour certs from CU but then again thats about the only thing i didnt like.

iskareot · July 2006

Originally posted by Malickiebloo
No that system is what did most of my guildies in , when I think of CU I think of darker times than NGE .

Now that suprises me.

Bria was the op of that. The CU did do damage but not NGE damage, we had people leaving in the hundreds due to the NGE.

But the factor of free Jedi did bring back some people, for a brief time...

No way did the NGE hold the crowd though... it cleaned them out. I think of all the servers we were pretty hardcore there due to the Beta days and Devs there, so making the game easy and dummied down took it's toll on alot of us.

(BUT this is like saying) -- Well we will take what is closer, or the next best thing etc.... I think I'm screwed wanting the harder version of the game back.. no way will all these new kids like that one.

Trubaduren · July 2006

Originally posted by Malickiebloo
No that system is what did most of my guildies in , when I think of CU I think of darker times than NGE .

Bah, cu works fine, its nothing really wrong with it. Weapons got more balanced so you need higher lvl for it, like in pre cu you got best weapon in like 4000 with marksman, Jedi got nerfd though thats bad.

to become jedi system was changed also i heard (wasent jedi in pre cu)

I just think some of you guys is stuck in hating everything in cu and dosent try to think its fun.

i mean come on cu works fine.

feldrin · July 2006

I think to have a chance at success it's pre-cu or bust. When the CU hit the was a major loss of players but it wasn't as noticeable because of an influx of new players do to the release of EP III.

AdevDarkstar · July 2006

I have to agree with most of you here that the CU was started to look pretty good right before the NGE was implemented. All they would have needed to do imho would have been to fix a few prof's, implement smuggling of some sort, create at least one more planet with housing, and maybe hoth as a pvp battle ground and I would have played that game until they shut the servers down.

Esar · July 2006

I hated the CU when it was first implemented but, over time I adapted and still enjoyed the game. They were gradually adding animations back in and it seemed to be heading in the right direction.

We still had a large guild which participated in guild wars, quests, base raids, and general pvp and their was still a good community.

So...yes. I would be satisfied with the reimplimentation of the CU.

I still wouldn't hold my breath on any promises or publish plans they announced....

As far as the NGE Jedi...well...they wouldn't lose anything IMHO. Give them all glowy and send them to the village. I know that some people were almost done with the village grind and I really don't know what would be fair to them. Everyone got screwed with the NGE.

nthnaoun · July 2006

Originally posted by AdevDarkstar
Would you go back if they brought back the CU and not Pre CU?

Yes. I never played Pre-CU, so it doesn't really matter to me. From what I heard, Pre-CU had a lot of issues that needed fixed that the CU took care of. Can't remember what they all were though.

Bissrok · July 2006

If they did that, I'd laugh for days. Everyone leaves, begging for Pre-CU servers, and they finally, after all this time, set aside their pride and rollback halfway? That'd be f***ing hilarious.

But, no. I wouldn't resub. I left because of the CU.

Distopia · July 2006

Originally posted by iskareot

Originally posted by Malickiebloo
No that system is what did most of my guildies in , when I think of CU I think of darker times than NGE .

Now that suprises me.

Bria was the op of that. The CU did do damage but not NGE damage, we had people leaving in the hundreds due to the NGE.

But the factor of free Jedi did bring back some people, for a brief time...

No way did the NGE hold the crowd though... it cleaned them out. I think of all the servers we were pretty hardcore there due to the Beta days and Devs there, so making the game easy and dummied down took it's toll on alot of us.

(BUT this is like saying) -- Well we will take what is closer, or the next best thing etc.... I think I'm screwed wanting the harder version of the game back.. no way will all these new kids like that one.

The game died for most when their friends left , I am no different . Might explain a bit about why NGE really doesn't matter to me .

As for CU being good ? I think the only good thing about it was , everyone didn't look like robo cop .

Harry-Sack · July 2006

Originally posted by ebenholt
...combat levels is what I detest most in MMOs...

Q to the F to the mother f'ing E.

CL's are lame. Huge immersion breaker for me when a player/mob approaches with a stupid level by their name. Skill trees for the win.

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