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i lived as a hobo for a time... i felt dirty, and people treated me shitty
but i had a house to go home to, and could quit when i wanted. i think that made it easier, there was less despair and fatalism to it.
minimum wage is worse than slavery... in fact irish immigrants had it worse than slaves, because they couldnt be bought and sold.
if a slave died, it'd be a huge finacial failure.
that meant they often got hired to do dangerous jobs, because it didnt matter if they died trying.
minimum wage doesnt pay enough to afford a slaves lifestyle.
-query- what do you do if you dont care about your 'future generations'
i see us all as someones child, thus we should all be like kin.
inevitably we have to sacrifice others to improve ourselves... it bothers me we must live this way.
--people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--
lol yes , anyone can get rich, but there will always have to be a class sytem when theres currency involved,
playing eq2 and two worlds
In Islam, Rich doesn't mean having alot of money or shiny cars.
In Islam, Rich means going to Paradise, because then everyone is rich over there :}
besides that, this topic has been hi-hammerjacked by pointless debates, specially slapme7times debates.
this topic was supposed to be a discussion of the unjustified invasion of Lebanon by Israel, so stop your pointless debates about socialism or capitalism or communism and move them somewhere else please.
Well as for various conflicts arising in the Middle East and Isreal's current actions, they are being noticed. The news channels I watch cover it quite a bit. Also the local community college has been having open campus forums and presenters coming in to talk about both sides of the issue. It has also led to the creation of a class dedicated just to the Middle East, cultures, history, and current politics. So there are people in the United States taking an interest. Some condemn Isreal's actions, and others support them.
Oh yeah, and does anyone else recall Pres. Bush claiming that there would be an independant Democratic Republic of Palestine by 2005. Hmm, guess he missed the deadline.
What unjustified invasion of Lebanon? No such invasion has occoured.
What unjustified invasion of Lebanon? No such invasion has occoured.
Semi-Invasion you may call it, the Murderous campeign to massively slaughter the Lebanese people with Savage and coward tactics.
Israel Gave up the land and still the Islamic terrorists invade and attack Israel and snatch soldiers and kill several. Sorry if that happened here in America, we would decimate your country plain and simple. Lebanon allowed Hezbollah or what ever you call it to remain in lebanon. These terrorist factions became members of the government of lebanon.
Since they are part of the government even now they have attacked another country creating a all out war. The these terrorist factions put normal people in danger by building and firing rockets into Israel. How did they get those rockets? Why do they put the civilians lives in jeopardy. why hasn't the government of lebanon done anything to make sure their poor people are safe from harm? Lebanon brought it on them selves. if they didn't want this to happen then they should have followed the UN resolution and disarmed hezbollah like it demands. Instead they have allowed and supported hezbollah. Israel declared WAR on lebanon. This is a WAR not a peace keeping mission or a police action. So Lebanon can save the poor me attitude and the whining to the UN.
These terrorists have no Honor they are roaches.
Iran and Syria's days are numbered. They cant keep sending terrorists into Iraq forever. We wont wait that long. And if you think we are spread too thin military wise dream on. we've been planing this stuff way before desert storm. We will not have suicide bombers with mini nukes strapped to their backs. no frickin way in hell that can be allowed to remotely become a possibility. I mean think about it folks, if they give Weapons, money, missles and c4 to hamas or hezbollah to kill others and blow them selves up with, don't you think a nuke is no issue, or even a dirty bomb no problem to use to them?
Also to add, i hear these terrorist mullahs or wtf ever they are called, lol they tell these kids that they will get 70 virgins and live in paradise forever. And these kids go and murder innocent women and children. They kill over lust. That sounds pretty damn satanic to mean. But the 70 virgins are a curse in its self. Imagine 70 pissed off man hating chicks on the rag constantly. Lol hope these kids enjoy there paradise, suckers.
Its pretty sad how stupid folks can be. All this killing over who's invisible man is gonna save them from them selves better.
Hay Mr terrorists when i die I'm gonna have a big ass Uzi with a never ending clip and I'm gonna hunt your arses down and shoot the crap out of all of you till I'm bored, then ill enjoy all the virgins.
FoE Fist of the Empire
People get some FACTS on the area. http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html Knowledge is power.
With knowledge you can prevent yourself from being controlled and brainwashed into believing something that simply is not true so get some FACTS - documented historical FACTS.
God even the title of this thread is like a newspaper headline - lets take only part of the story and sway peoples beliefs to match our own. God Damn sound byte generation.
i'm so lost on this...
cant you just judge what i'm typing by the content? you say that because i'm not poor nothing i say in defense of poor people or globalization is relevant...
i really dont know how to respond to that other than with pure disbeleif.
--people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--
it becomes difficult... to say when we do or do not 'have the facts'
how can you be sure someone isnt just lying to you?
it's difficult to say if it's possible to have all the right facts.
again, when the wealthy control the media, it forces the poor people to think the way they want to.
technically, if you can make someone believe your lies are facts, they're really not lies any longer....
--people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--
or, maybe you dont have sex period, because the world is way way overpopulated.
the hedonistic thing to do, would be to have children.
maybe we could think less of our own posterity, and take care of the children we already have here
--people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--
--people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--
that sounds like bullshit to me
but let me explain why-
anyone with 4 appendages mentally retarded or otherwise could do that job just as well and in the same amount of time for 5.15 and hour.
in capitalism, you'll never see someone get paid 60,000 a year to do a job someone younger, faster, and smarter could do for 10,000 a year.
that's the nature of the market, so i just cant believe you.
--people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--
What unjustified invasion of Lebanon? No such invasion has occoured.
Semi-Invasion you may call it, the Murderous campeign to massively slaughter the Lebanese people with Savage and coward tactics.
you're only saying murderous because they kill children with bombs.
--people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--
What unjustified invasion of Lebanon? No such invasion has occoured.
Semi-Invasion you may call it, the Murderous campeign to massively slaughter the Lebanese people with Savage and coward tactics.
Call it what you like it's still justified.
Utter bollocks.
You have it better than most people in the world and you are crying.
Minimum wage is not Slavery. Minimum wage is socialism. A state enforced guarentee against the exploitation of the poor by the rich.
Irish immigrants got to go home at the end oif the day, Ukrainians and Jewish slaves weren't so lucky. They didn't return.
It's not possible to take you seriously.
Low wages are simply market worth. A person who flips burgers in Macdonalds is on minimum wages because he has taken no time to better himself, it is his first job, or he just doesn't care about being too wealthy. If he quits tomorrow anyone can replace him as his job requires no skills or training. Since there are a steady stream of applicants for that job, there is no need to inflate his wages to keep him around.
There are no minimum wage Macdonalds employees "trapped into the job". By the time they are 22 they have either become managers or left.
You poor poor lambs unable to get a 100,000 a year job before you've finished school. How deprived you are. How the state is repressing you. Forcing you to get stuck in MacDonalds your entire life. While rich people demand burger after burger. Boo hoo I feel so sorry for you. Does no one recognise your intrinsic value to society?
N.B. If you increase the minimum wage, you increase the product price. Poor people who eat at MacDonalds get less food. If MacDonalds goes out of business, minumum wages become no wages. In other industries, the jobs go abroad and in all cases inflation rises making (poor) people's money worth less. The job is worth what the job is worth. No one is forcing anyone to take the work. If you have ideas above you station, better yourself. This is the land of golden oportunity.
For the record I've lived on the street for a while too. Very enjoyable and certainly worked off a few of my prepositions about drug addicts. I have no problems mixing with social elites and tramps both. I do so regularly.
I think the poor are a lot better off without your defence.
Apologies if I'm not responding to your every word/cherry picking specific bits out of context instead of the overall picture, a lot of it I don't have any response for, but the bits I do, I am enjoying.
Same in most religions.
However most religions don't seem quite so keen for their members to make such a direct B line there.
None of my moslem friends seem to constantly harp on about paradise. Is Islam really a suicide cult?
I can understand in harsh enviroments where life is cheap or the the struggle for life very desperate. But you seem like an educated chap with enough resources to surf the net why are you so fixated with heavenly paradise?
What unjustified invasion of Lebanon? No such invasion has occoured.
Semi-Invasion you may call it, the Murderous campeign to massively slaughter the Lebanese people with Savage and coward tactics.
Call it what you like it's still justified.
i don't get it - state sponsored terrorism is justified because....??? it's done by a state rather than a couple of militants?
how can you justify violating U.N. and Geneva conventions as a government that is responsible for its own people?
how can you justify years and years of pre-emptive strikes and military occupation?
the only two nations that consistently ignore and violate global terrorist policy as defined by United Nations Doctrine are the U.S. and the state of Israel.
Hizbollah and Hamas indeed violate these policies as well - however they are not a state - they are a group - and generally radical and mislead individuals carry out their violence. It's deplorable and sad what they do.
However, as a state, with a government elected by it's own people, Israel actions are morally reprehensible and not justified logically when civil and human rights laws and thinking are applied.
"I have live my life by these nine simple words: It sounded like a good idea at the time."
--Livingston Taylor
What unjustified invasion of Lebanon? No such invasion has occoured.
Semi-Invasion you may call it, the Murderous campeign to massively slaughter the Lebanese people with Savage and coward tactics.
Call it what you like it's still justified.
i don't get it - state sponsored terrorism is justified because....??? it's done by a state rather than a couple of militants?
how can you justify violating U.N. and Geneva conventions as a government that is responsible for its own people?
how can you justify years and years of pre-emptive strikes and military occupation?
the only two nations that consistently ignore and violate global terrorist policy as defined by United Nations Doctrine are the U.S. and the state of Israel.
Hizbollah and Hamas indeed violate these policies as well - however they are not a state - they are a group - and generally radical and mislead individuals carry out their violence. It's deplorable and sad what they do.
However, as a state, with a government elected by it's own people, Israel actions are morally reprehensible and not justified logically when civil and human rights laws and thinking are applied.
You obviously have an errant definition of terrorism. What Israel is doing is not terrorism.
Terrorism: The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or
an organized group against people or property with the intention of
intimidating or coercing societies or
governments, often for ideological or political reasons.
That describes Hezbollah's and Hamas's actions pretty well. Israel is defending itself from past, current, and future terrorist acts because the Lebanise government won't take care of the problem that is in their own country.
The UN is a joke.
If the UN did what it is supposed to do maybe the US and Israel wouldn't have to take such drastic measures to defend themselves.
Israels actions are justified from a common sense point of view. They are killing the terrorists that are attacking them.
What would you do if you were Israel? Let the terrorists continue killing your people while you sit there and watch. The terrorists won't stop until Israel is off the map. Something has to be done.
Hopefully our government will continue to support Israel to whatever ends.
What unjustified invasion of Lebanon? No such invasion has occoured.
Semi-Invasion you may call it, the Murderous campeign to massively slaughter the Lebanese people with Savage and coward tactics.
Call it what you like it's still justified.
no it's not man, u have no freaking concept of proportionality if you really believe in those words.
-virtual tourist
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