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BKOOL · February 2004

I'm tired of all these new games coming out in the fantasy category having all the same classes. There is the leader, the melee , the archer, and the priest. They may have different names and one or two different kind of attacks, but they really are all the same. These classes are all well and good, but I want something i haven't seen before. One suggestion would be an adventurer like Indiana Jones, carries a whip and uses his cunning against his opponents. I would also like to know what suggestions you have for new classes.

Umbrood · February 2004

There are only so many base classes I think, having played pen and paper RPG's for 15 years I have yet to see any more "base" class. Indiana Jones for example would be a mix of Rogue/scholar.

Horizons for example has 49 classes, all very diverse but at the core are the base 6 or 7. Pretty much anything i can think up originate there, from paralyzed vegetable in a hospital to a God like player character.

Maybe with city of heroes we will see something new, as the classes pretty much fits the game and to have new classes you would need an entirely new playworld with new goals and concepts, we shall see..

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Bdude19 · February 2004

Sometime, somewhere, somehow... someone will come up with a new idea for classes or genre, i think the main type of mmorpgs are fantasy, i mean i cant really think of any other way to make one?

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kingslayer · February 2004

I agree with the previous posts, there are only so many classes to be had. Everything else fantasy related is just a variation of the base class. Maybe they should let players play as the mobs, that would make for some interesting PvE

Bdude19 · February 2004

ya i think that would be fun, where your the monsters killing the humans or something to that effect

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ianubisi · February 2004

How do you code "uses his cunning"?

In the end, the huge risk involved in trying something completely different is antithetical to the multi-million dollar investments involved in the development of MMOGs.

BKOOL · February 2004

I know that there are only so many base classes, but what im sying is that there should be a class that is not one or even based on one. Although it would be hard not to get a class based on another i think that it could be done. Also adventurer was a suggestion and i had't that much planning into it but im sure you could figure out for yourself.

eNiTe · February 2004

if they made a mmorpg out of grand theft auto, that would be cool, using gun of whoa or something

Clever_Glove · February 2004

The good news as the genere becomes widely accepted the more will be willing to take risks to try to capture a market.

City of heroes for example is something away from the norm.

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webBear1000 · February 2004

I loved the no-class approach in Eve.

Just have skills and let people follow their own path. Seems like a good approach to me.

The downside is that I kinda lost my way with my avatar which I think was the source of my frustration with the game.

Perhaps a good comprimise might have been a semi class driven system where all skills and abilities are available to everyone but taking certain skills / abilities makes it harder to learn others but not impossible.

xDeadlinex · February 2004

I just hope games like City Of Heroes survive in the market. Sure they are diffrent, but there are not many people willing to risk 50$ + $12a month to play a game that may flop... but I guess that is what may happen to all MMORPG's.

Anyhow, God Bless COH, I hope it turns out awsome.

ronproc · February 2004

Actullay some of the EVE skills were harder ( or at least Longer) ot learn than others, and part of that depending on your starting choices. I did like that if you choose carefully and the right race to start and the right clan you could actually start at like level 4 pilot , enginnering or mining skills.

findnolimit · February 2004

I played AC II for a number of months and I actually thought some of the classes in the game were if anything, refreshing... The lugian tactician for example was a very unique and new class... Essentially it was a melee class (wrench but you could construct walls and then turrets to fight enemies. Sure they were over powered from the start but that doesn't mean they weren't fun. Thats why DAoC copied them with the... ummmm I don't know but they made mushroom turrets but no walls...

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Gorukha · February 2004

CoH is ok, but I know it would be alot more popular if they had PvP.

As far as classes go. What other classes can you have ? I mean try to think of one instead of whining about it cause I sure can't. Even AO which is Sci Fi follows the generic base classes. You know why ? Cause no matter what you come up with it will probably be a take off a pre existing base class anyways. This isn't a status quo thing or a marketing thing. The fact is these "base" classes are IT, and all you can come up with is proffessions that just build up on the original concept.

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Knowledge · February 2004

I agree with not having any classes at all. Ultima Online, for instance, is one of my favorite games in reference to skills. Whichever you did most you got better in and if you decided you wanted to be a Mage/Swordsman/Healer/Tamer then that's what you could be. I'm sick of only choosing one role. I enjoy playing a character that reflects my own personality. In real life I am a musician, artist, poet, and computer sales consultant. I don't enjoy doing one thing, I have a dynamic personality. UO allowed me to express this. More games need this flexibility.

SciMo · February 2004

I agree that skill based over class based would be better. Say it was possible to max out every skill, but for each skill you mastered, it would get progressively harder to master other ones.

Ramonski7 · February 2004

Although many would hate to admit it SWG has the right fomula for a skill-based system. Give the player a finite number of skill points to toy with and let them determine the end character. Then again you'd pretty much get hoards and hoards of players coming up with the 'magic' formula for the perfect chracter to breeze through a game. (i.e. Mage/Tamers in UO ruled all)

OmegaLet · February 2004

I can't think of any other base type classes...

hercules · February 2004

Originally posted by Ramonski7
Although many would hate to admit it SWG has the right fomula for a skill-based system. Give the player a finite number of skill points to toy with and let them determine the end character. Then again you'd pretty much get hoards and hoards of players coming up with the 'magic' formula for the perfect chracter to breeze through a game. (i.e. Mage/Tamers in UO ruled all)

Exactly thats the problem with making your own character skill based like UO and SWG did.

Once folks have figured out whats the uber combo half the server will be that.In UO everyone and his granny when i played was a tank mage(1997-1999).

In SWG most folks are commandos/BH who are combat based.

The idea of pick and mix is a great one but maintaing the balance is very very hard unless the game is made group oriented.

Umbrood · February 2004

Besides, in the 30 or so + years since Dungeons and Dragons were released, and the massive amount of RPG's after that, if no one has come up with a new base type yet I vety much dount anyone ever will.

Even wacko games like paranoia or HOL (human occupied landfill) have their classes based on these.

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