Deathless Meat

britoca · July 2006

Would You Eat Lab-Grown Meat?

//\//\oo · July 2006

Yes, I would. The reason for this is: Lab-grown meat is vastly superior to what you would get from the farm, because you don't have the extra degrees of freedom from whatever the farmers are feeding their cows; diseases like BSE would not be able to spread, since it requires brain tissue and other organs to reproduce.

Parasites would also be harder to come by, because of the controlled environment that the samples would exist in. This controlled environment also permits easier sampling for any other potential diseases due to the greater degree of homogeneity.

//\//\oo · July 2006

Edit: Sorry, laggy double post.

Wolfjunkie · July 2006

If it tastes good, then sure!
And if it was to mean less dead animals, from horrible transportation to the slaugther house.. Only a bonus.

britoca · July 2006

yeah, I've been waiting for this for many years now. Death free, more efficient, and less waste.

The problem is that this can be seen as an excuse, a better way, to feed the ever growing human population.

Next step, stop overpopulation.

Wolfjunkie · July 2006

Originally posted by britoca
yeah, I've been waiting for this for many years now. Death free, more efficient, and less waste.

The problem is that this can be seen as an excuse, a better way, to feed the ever growing human population.

Next step, stop overpopulation.

That should happen relatively soon. We just need to wake up the sleeping giant, China. After that, let all the countries battle a bit for world domination. Mission succeded, will be a while before we get overpupulated

reavo · July 2006

Depends on the taste.

But then again, I didn't like soy milk at first. Now I do. I made myself drink it because cows milk was upsetting my stomach. Then I acquired a taste for soy milk. Now I don't like regular milk. Kinda weird how your taste buds change.

Wolfjunkie · July 2006

Originally posted by reavo
Depends on the taste.

But then again, I didn't like soy milk at first. Now I do. I made myself drink it because cows milk was upsetting my stomach. Then I acquired a taste for soy milk. Now I don't like regular milk. Kinda weird how your taste buds change.

Hmm.. Soy milk is quite tasty. Specially chocolate soy milk! And filled with proteins.
So quite good if you're working out, i guess.

Juiceman · July 2006

I would eat the stuff if they didn't pump with hormones and all that stuff I wish I had enough money to avoid. That would be great. Less cows, less methane gas too. Hey if it's comparible with organic meat or better I'm most definetely their.

I think we are overpopulated. There's a big stone plaque thing in georgia that says it all. Population below 500,000,000 although that could be seen as 1 or 2 billion now that we have experience in the matter.

Wolfjunkie · July 2006

Originally posted by Juiceman

I would eat the stuff if they didn't pump with hormones and all that stuff I wish I had enough money to avoid. That would be great. Less cows, less methane gas too. Hey if it's comparible with organic meat or better I'm most definetely their.
I think we are overpopulated. There's a big stone plaque thing in georgia that says it all. Population below 500,000,000 although that could be seen as 1 or 2 billion now that we have experience in the matter.

The whole world, together, can stand at Bornholm at once. Ofcourse, each m2 had to be shared amongst us, but it's still possible.
Oh, and Bornholm.. Pretty small island in Denmark.

britoca · July 2006

Originally posted by reavo
Depends on the taste.

But then again, I didn't like soy milk at first. Now I do. I made myself drink it because cows milk was upsetting my stomach. Then I acquired a taste for soy milk. Now I don't like regular milk. Kinda weird how your taste buds change.

u should try it with vegetarianism. I do 1/2 vegetarian usually (1 meal meat, the other veggie) and the same thing happened with veggies. I was brought up on meat and when I first attempted to transition to a greener diet it all tasted bland and really unsatisfying as compared to the iconic burgers or "slabs of meat".

After a while u start noticing all the slight nuances in veggie flavous, and now, lol, I'm pretty crazy about my veggie sandwiches, it's like a rain of pleasure inside my mouth. All the juices, the mixing of all the flavours, etc

Same thing with my girlfriend, she DETESTED salads, not she's always preparing them.

Unbelievably mutable perception is.

britoca · July 2006

Originally posted by Juiceman

I would eat the stuff if they didn't pump with hormones and all that stuff I wish I had enough money to avoid.

QFT

ferox420 · July 2006

with all the toxins and synthetic materials found in todays meat products (even organic meat <no such thing as organic meat, but you get my point>) a funny quip my friend said to me last week is making more and more sense as blunt and obnoxious as it was ...he said "Kill all of the vegitarians and eat them!"

noname12345 · July 2006

Originally posted by britoca

Originally posted by reavo
Depends on the taste.

But then again, I didn't like soy milk at first. Now I do. I made myself drink it because cows milk was upsetting my stomach. Then I acquired a taste for soy milk. Now I don't like regular milk. Kinda weird how your taste buds change.

u should try it with vegetarianism. I do 1/2 vegetarian usually (1 meal meat, the other veggie) and the same thing happened with veggies. I was brought up on meat and when I first attempted to transition to a greener diet it all tasted bland and really unsatisfying as compared to the iconic burgers or "slabs of meat".

After a while u start noticing all the slight nuances in veggie flavous, and now, lol, I'm pretty crazy about my veggie sandwiches, it's like a rain of pleasure inside my mouth. All the juices, the mixing of all the flavours, etc

Same thing with my girlfriend, she DETESTED salads, not she's always preparing them.

Unbelievably mutable perception is.

This is what happened to me when I went vegan. Soon all the veggies tasted sooooo much better but before that I would take out a lot of the veggies in a sub for example (plus many other things).

I definately support this new meat. My gut tells me it will taste a lot better:

1. It's made and supervised by people who can test the taste all throughout the process and refine it as much as needed.
2. When animals are suffering then killed they release a lot of chemicals into their meat that isn't healthy for consumption. So the lack of these chemicals could improve taste.
3. Did you know the meat from the slaughter factories have chemicals in them from a lab? I would call both meat from an animal and the lab....lab meat. Factories inject chemicals into the animals so they grow faster...to make more and faster profit. So in a way the meat these days are "lab-grown meat".

Anyways don't let your taste buds run your life at the expense of yourself and others.
"It's cleaner, healthier, less polluting and more humane,".....nuff said.

They didn't talk about the pollution factory farms produce.

I'll still be vegan though.

"with all the toxins and synthetic materials found in todays meat products (even organic meat <no such thing as organic meat, but you get my point>) a funny quip my friend said to me last week is making more and more sense as blunt and obnoxious as it was ...he said "Kill all of the vegitarians and eat them!"

That makes no sense. If you kill all the vegetarians then you won't have anymore and then must resort to killing yourselves or going back to the toxic meat.

Edit: Oh I see then you just give birth to children, turn them vegetarian, then eat them? Make human factory farms? YOU SICK BASTARD! ....this is a joke but his post was a joke too....I think.

modjoe86 · July 2006

Will vegans eat this?
If not, what's the excuse?

noname12345 · July 2006

Originally posted by modjoe86
Will vegans eat this?
If not, what's the excuse?

1. Some vegans feel their diet is perfectly fine and healthy as it is.
2. Some vegans have been vegan all their life or for a very long time and don't want to change (maybe because of #1 aswell)
3. Some vegans don't think humans are physiologically supposed to eat meat and animal products (milk for example). Obviously humans do and live long lives but vegans think that adopting a vegan diet that you can the same life healthier and longer.

I'm not saying whether 1&2 are actually correct in that they are healthier but i'm giving you some possible reasons. I don't feel like debating

ferox420 · July 2006

yes alex,, it was a joke.......just about as funny as your response (at the time

)......on a slight side note on soy products.......technicaly tofu etc are have an incomplete protien base so in reality it takes your body more energy to process the stuff than you actually get out of it.....granted that females are able to get more nutrition from it due to their physiology....for example corn by itself is an incomplete protien and cant be fully processed (hence corn in poo) kidney beans are also an example of an incomplete protien but when you cook em both together in a big pot the enzymes combine to produce the complete and fully absorbable protien (cant remember its scientific name).........mmmmmmmm chilli..............

Dekron · July 2006

Originally posted by modjoe86
Will vegans eat this?
If not, what's the excuse?

Yes. Look closely on the site. PETA supports this whole lab meat thing.

Arcken · July 2006

I read somewhere that wed all starve if we were vegetarians because the world doesnt produce enough veggies to feed everyone. Meat is not only good, but its a necessity.

94Z07 · July 2006

Originally posted by ferox420
with all the toxins and synthetic materials found in todays meat products (even organic meat <no such thing as organic meat, but you get my point>) a funny quip my friend said to me last week is making more and more sense as blunt and obnoxious as it was ...he said "Kill all of the vegitarians and eat them!"

Are you suggesting there is such a thing as inorganic meat? All meat is organic.

Exactly what are these toxins?

Exactly what was synthetic about the ribeye I ate yesterday?

noname12345 · July 2006

Originally posted by Arcken

I read somewhere that wed all starve if we were vegetarians because the world doesnt produce enough veggies to feed everyone. Meat is not only good, but its a necessity.

Where did you read that? Actually the opposite is true. It takes 16 pounds of grain to produce 1 pound of meat. The average adult human burns about 2,000 calories per day, just living his or her life. We use almost all the calories that we consume to move around, breathe, and do everyday tasks. The same is true of farmed animals. For every pound of food that they are fed, only a fraction of the calories are returned in the form of edible flesh. The rest of those calories are burned away raising the animal to slaughter weight or contributing to feathers, blood, and other parts of the animal that are not eaten by humans. This is why animals raised for food have to eat as many as 16 pounds of grain to create just 1 pound of edible flesh.

Of course these days with the extreme pollution that these factory farms produce they of course ruin the soil and yes that makes for less land for veggies.

Rufius · July 2006

I don't know, they domesticated plant life through genetic experiments, not sure if any edible plants actually grow back the next year. So basically if, something happens to the harvested seeds of next year prices will rise and hunger will be rampant. I dunno really stuff like this has too many tangents and, could be more inhuman then slaughter.

So they are actually continuing the growth of another animal's flesh beyond death and, cloning the cells, thing is you can't harvest cloned stemcells it'll break down and, become unedible or, worse create a whole new disease immune any vaccination capable of our understanding.

noname12345 · July 2006

Originally posted by 94Z07

Originally posted by ferox420
with all the toxins and synthetic materials found in todays meat products (even organic meat <no such thing as organic meat, but you get my point>) a funny quip my friend said to me last week is making more and more sense as blunt and obnoxious as it was ...he said "Kill all of the vegitarians and eat them!"

Are you suggesting there is such a thing as inorganic meat? All meat is organic.

Exactly what are these toxins?
Generally it's antibiotics, steroids, stuff like that. Plus the stuff the animals do eat on the farm have pesticides. Now the USDA is asking for 8 more substances to add to the meat.
http://uspolitics.tribe.net/thread/3a19cf44-1a16-4522-a78d-6b9ba7e4b127

Exactly what was synthetic about the ribeye I ate yesterday?

This is very basic stuff. You should probably educate yourself a little bit on the food you eat. Just because it's at the market doesn't mean it's good for you.

noname12345 · July 2006

Originally posted by baff

Originally posted by AlexAmore

Originally posted by Arcken

I read somewhere that wed all starve if we were vegetarians because the world doesnt produce enough veggies to feed everyone. Meat is not only good, but its a necessity.

Where did you read that? Actually the opposite is true. It takes 16 pounds of grain to produce 1 pound of meat. The average adult human burns about 2,000 calories per day, just living his or her life. We use almost all the calories that we consume to move around, breathe, and do everyday tasks. The same is true of farmed animals. For every pound of food that they are fed, only a fraction of the calories are returned in the form of edible flesh. The rest of those calories are burned away raising the animal to slaughter weight or contributing to feathers, blood, and other parts of the animal that are not eaten by humans. This is why animals raised for food have to eat as many as 16 pounds of grain to create just 1 pound of edible flesh.

He said we would starve because there are not enough veggies. He also forgot to mention that there are many other things that vegans eat the aren't veggies. I didn't see where he was talking about a "healthy diet".

I'm just talking about calories in terms of burning. Nothing else. I don't think you read my post correctly.

purplefire · July 2006

i would eat it if it tasted like chicken

94Z07 · July 2006

[quote]Originally posted by AlexAmore
[b]
Originally posted by 94Z07

Originally posted by ferox420with all the toxins and synthetic materials found in todays meat products (even organic meat <no such thing as organic meat, but you get my point>) a funny quip my friend said to me last week is making more and more sense as blunt and obnoxious as it was ...he said "Kill all of the vegitarians and eat them!"

Are you suggesting there is such a thing as inorganic meat? All meat is organic.
Exactly what are these toxins?Generally it's antibiotics, steroids, stuff like that. Plus the stuff the animals do eat on the farm have pesticides. Now the USDA is asking for 8 more substances to add to the meat.[url=http://uspolitics.tribe.net/thread/3a19cf44-1a16-4522-a78d-6b9ba7e4b127]
Exactly what was synthetic about the ribeye I ate yesterday?
This is very basic stuff. You should probably educate yourself a little bit on the food you eat. Just because it's at the market doesn't mean it's good for you.[/b][/quote]

Words have specific meanings. That concept is pretty basic. You should educate yourself before you use words you don't understand. Just because some berkinstock-wearing, kumbaya-singing person labels something as a toxin doesn't make it one.

Antibiotics, steroids, "stuff like that", and pesticides are not toxins.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxin

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