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moxuout2moxuout2 Member Posts: 96
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Im really glad that this site hasn't been putting to many korean mmorpgs. Most of them are just copys of other games, mixed with 1 "New and exciting" aspect like i dont know drilling or something dumb. The fact that they dont even try to expand on there classes is kind of sadining to me. How many games can one company make that there is only 3-4 classes! I guess the company I am refering too would be Game and Game sence they have a clear copy of maple story called dragon gem. Same setup, same look, same everything besides the name. Thank god there will be some good mmorpgs realased this year. I would slit my throat if I onl had super grind korean mmorpgs to play.
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  • TheodorykTheodoryk Member Posts: 1,453
    You'd slit your own throat if you didn't have a good game to look forward to? That seems rather extreme...

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  • moxuout2moxuout2 Member Posts: 96
    It is a metaphore for how intencely i feel inside about the crapy games being released.
  • TheodorykTheodoryk Member Posts: 1,453
    Well then, you feel very strongly indeed. You really haven't found any game that suites your fancy? Nothing that will tide you over?

    "Speaking haygywaygy or some other gibberish with your mum doesn't make you foreign."
    -baff

  • moxuout2moxuout2 Member Posts: 96
    Im an advid counter strike player, been playing it for 5 years. I sadly have played most of all free mmorpgs, free trails, along with a few pay to play. Some good mods  being maid for counter strike sorce but are taking way to long to be developed sence they have no funding. Just wish i could find a skill based mmorpg to play, sence i have done the super grind crap wayyyy to many times.
  • NadrilNadril Member Posts: 1,276
    I like how it's "only" these korean games that are crap coming out.

    *looks at WoW*. hey, look at that, we have a ... tank, and a.... mage and a ranger/assassin guy. Oh hey look we have a druid, woohoo we are unique!


    *looks at everquest II*. Same stuff. We have a tank, a melee damage guy, a nuker, support classes and a ranger/assassin guy. Real unique.



    Perhaps try and actualy look at MMO's in general? most MMO's are unorgional when it comes to classes (because honestly there aren't many choices to create 'new' characters from).


    Lineage II : Tank, Support classes, AoE DD, Nuker, Crafter , Ranger/assassin guys and melee damage guys.

    Yeah all of them are about the same.


  • moxuout2moxuout2 Member Posts: 96
    Im not saying that only korean mmorpgs suck, yes WoW sucks.. yes Everquest sucks.. but compaired to korean mmorpgs they are a god send. When you compaire that korean mmorpgs only focus on grinding aspect, like how some games take you a few hours to grind out a level past level 40, and maximum level is like 100 or 150. Its just sad, sad that it will probbly kill 1 or 2 people this year that try to be the highest level on the server.
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    Originally posted by moxuout2
    Im really glad that this site hasn't been putting to many korean mmorpgs. Most of them are just copys of other games, mixed with 1 "New and exciting" aspect like i dont know drilling or something dumb. The fact that they dont even try to expand on there classes is kind of sadining to me. How many games can one company make that there is only 3-4 classes! I guess the company I am refering too would be Game and Game sence they have a clear copy of maple story called dragon gem. Same setup, same look, same everything besides the name. Thank god there will be some good mmorpgs realased this year. I would slit my throat if I onl had super grind korean mmorpgs to play.
    This guy is damn right!

    the korean are so stupid!

    I mean, at least the west is bringing out new things!

    look at WoW! totally new! or Everquest 2! or city of heroes! darn, we have never seen those before!
    and we just won't stop bringing out totally  new games! I mean, look at vanguard and Lotro!

    [/sarcasm]

    Op, Only very few korean MMO's come to the west. believe me when I see you haven't seen ANYTHING yet.

    the pay to play ones have about just as much classes (if not more)  then western games, so i don't know what your complaining about.
    if your talking about the free ones, what the hell are you complaining about? its free!
    Do you know the free to play games the west have given us? runescape and Tibia. and if you want the full game, you still have to pay for them.


    Korean games aren't any more of a grind then western games. WoW is a grind, Everquest 2 is a grind, DAOC is a grind.

    at least in korean MMORPG you grind for a REASON. korean games always are about a certain event. but you obviously failed to see that.
  • moxuout2moxuout2 Member Posts: 96
    Attually WoW is a quest grind, Everquest 2 is a grind ( but they are known for mod grind sence they started the whole trend) and Daoc is not a grind. You have many ways to level up in Daoc, kill task, instant dungeons, pvp, and grinding is probbly the last thing to do. Sence i have played all games I would know, you clearly havn't played daoc recently or you would know that aswell.
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    Originally posted by moxuout2
    Attually WoW is a quest grind,

    and what are WoW's quests? "collect 20 mushrooms by killing Mob A, Kill 30 wolves" its a grind. a pure grind.

    Everquest 2 is a grind ( but they are known for mod grind sence they started the whole trend) and Daoc is not a grind. You have many ways to level up in Daoc, kill task, instant dungeons

    actually, that IS grinding. its the exact same thing. kill task is the same as korean grinding. you just have to return to an NPC every now and then. Instant dungeons? and what is the main activity you do in those dungeons? killing mobs. just a grind.

    , pvp, and grinding is probbly the last thing to do. Sence i have played all games I would know, you clearly havn't played daoc recently or you would know that aswell.
  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    Originally posted by moxuout2
    Im really glad that this site hasn't been putting to many korean mmorpgs. Most of them are just copys of other games, mixed with 1 "New and exciting" aspect like i dont know drilling or something dumb. The fact that they dont even try to expand on there classes is kind of sadining to me. How many games can one company make that there is only 3-4 classes! I guess the company I am refering too would be Game and Game sence they have a clear copy of maple story called dragon gem. Same setup, same look, same everything besides the name. Thank god there will be some good mmorpgs realased this year. I would slit my throat if I onl had super grind korean mmorpgs to play.

    Damn it, your late!

    Anti - Korean game topics are on Tuesdays!

    Time to get back to all the great Western titles like SWG, Horizons, EQII, AC, AC2 (oops shut down) Matrix, AA, Dark and Light, Irth online and D&DO!

    (Seriously though, slit your throat? They are just games, don't play it if you don't like it)

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    about your comment saying it will kill 1 or 2 people trying to reach the cap when playing an MMORPG, did you know that it was WoW who killed people? all hail the honor system!

  • Takai001Takai001 Member Posts: 248

    Lots of Korean MMORPGs try to compete with their other Korean companies. So to win they copy the same aspects of the game and somehow get lots of players in. But, however, I do enjoy playing R.O.S.E Online right now because... I dunno... It's a fun grinding game.

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  • moxuout2moxuout2 Member Posts: 96
    Attually kill task are not grinding, you kill a moster (one moster) then return for your reward. Hmm if im not mistaken that isn't killing 1000's apown 1000's of mobs to level up. Same with instant dungeons with Daoc, you enter the dungeon do what the task says to do and you get a reward. The main focus on kill task and instant dungeons are to get the reward of xp and gold. Now WoW IS quest grind, all quest are the same grind to get quest items. If you were to read the post it says that. Everquest is pure grind EQ2 im sure is to with a few quest but you are just over simplying things. I also noticed you didn't totch the subject about PvP xping. Sad, sence you probbly realized there is no way to grind in pvp for level restriced areas with non AI players that have the same chance of killing you as you them. Just face it, Daoc rules you.
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    Originally posted by moxuout2
    Attually kill task are not grinding, you kill a moster (one moster) then return for your reward.

    um..that IS grinding, you still have to kill countless of monsters to get a level.


    Hmm if im not mistaken that isn't killing 1000's apown 1000's of mobs to level up. Same with instant dungeons with Daoc, you enter the dungeon do what the task says to do and you get a reward. The main focus on kill task and instant dungeons are to get the reward of xp and gold.

    Again, that IS grinding. you have to kill mobs over and over again. they are not the same mob, but it DOES require you to take the same action over and over again.

     Now WoW IS quest grind, all quest are the same grind to get quest items. If you were to read the post it says that. Everquest is pure grind EQ2 im sure is to with a few quest but you are just over simplying things. I also noticed you didn't totch the subject about PvP xping. Sad, sence you probbly realized there is no way to grind in pvp for level restriced areas with non AI players that have the same chance of killing you as you them. Just face it, Daoc rules you.

    Yes, DAOC totally rules
    so i take it you leveled from lvl 1 to the cap by just mere pvping ? thats what I thought

  • moxuout2moxuout2 Member Posts: 96
    Wow very dence you are, kill task the reward is like killing 100 mobs. Its not grinding if you kill 1 guy then get a shit load of xp for it. You only kill the moster becuase it tells you to, but the whole point of kill task instant dungeons is for the compleation xp! Not grinding, quest xp. Let me say it again, not grinding quest xp. And considering that you can go from level 1-50 in a day... that isn't super long grind. And attually you could go from 15-50 just in pvp but the problem is idiots like you dont like daoc and servers are emptying out. Once again, quest xp(killing 1 moster) is not a grind, its a bulk of xp at once so you need to just shut it now. No longer will i reply on this subject becuase...its just childish.
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    Originally posted by moxuout2
    Wow very dence you are, kill task the reward is like killing 100 mobs. Its not grinding if you kill 1 guy then get a shit load of xp for it. You only kill the moster becuase it tells you to, but the whole point of kill task instant dungeons is for the compleation xp! Not grinding, quest xp. Let me say it again, not grinding quest xp. And considering that you can go from level 1-50 in a day... that isn't super long grind. And attually you could go from 15-50 just in pvp but the problem is idiots like you dont like daoc and servers are emptying out. Once again, quest xp(killing 1 moster) is not a grind, its a bulk of xp at once so you need to just shut it now. No longer will i reply on this subject becuase...its just childish.
    Actually, the real problem is that you don't understand what the term "grind" means. and oh pity us fools who do not play Daoc. we are but mere idiots! maybe if mythic actually comes with a product that I enjoy to play, then I will consider it. but they don't, so I won't play it.

    quest killing 1 monsters is not a grind
    multiple quests killing 1 monster IS a grind.
  • CleffyIICleffyII Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,440
    I wouldn't diss Game N Game too much.  Dragon Gem was actually released in korea before Maple Story.  Its just that Maple Story ported over sooner.  Game N Game did bring some interesting non-carbon copy games to the US.  Like Shot Online and NavyField.  I heard that Cabal Online is also pretty unique.

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  • ApharAphar Member Posts: 68

    Originally posted by moxuout2
    Im not saying that only korean mmorpgs suck, yes WoW sucks.. yes Everquest sucks.. but compaired to korean mmorpgs they are a god send. When you compaire that korean mmorpgs only focus on grinding aspect, like how some games take you a few hours to grind out a level past level 40, and maximum level is like 100 or 150. Its just sad, sad that it will probbly kill 1 or 2 people this year that try to be the highest level on the server.
    Yes Korean games most of the time are grind grind. But one i must say beats them all is Flyff by far. Its a grind at later levels but if you know how to play its not really a grind. Its one of the best if i say, which some people say they copied people. But i know theres talk of a new class now and one ive never heard of, a puppeter class!?!? Which its talk so i dont know if its fact or fiction. But still good idea.
  • moxuout2moxuout2 Member Posts: 96
    The main point i was making about Game and Game was that out of most of there mmorpgs, they are all pretty much the same game revamped. There are also other korean mmorpg companys that take a page out of other crappyer games. Like Legen of Areas having less exp per mosterkill past level 40 is the same as Hero online. But hero online takes it to another level, sence 40+ mobs have junk load more hp and 50+ mobs get extreamly strong for some reason. The end result is people staying at areas with lvl 35-40 mobs from level 20 to 45. Makes the game really anoying when you cannot count on mosters giving the right amount of xp. Ep: level 40 mob give 5,000 xp and level 44 mobs giving 4,400. I think its really anoying of companys doing this to there games. But, tiss a korean game,and tiss will be super long grind.
  • harikiriharikiri Member Posts: 71
    yeah, maybe they sucked but at least they make games lol. better than nothing? maybe.
    well, who knows maybe they can innovte a game in the future, we'll never know.
    if you want games you can check gamersloot.net maybe that'll lighten you up..


  • thej6mthej6m Member Posts: 38

    I'm with the original poster anytime I've gotten excited about a new MMO that will be released in just a few months (unlike western mmos which have been in development for YEARS I'm looking at you Darkfall!) they turn out to be crap because they are cheap Korean imports. Much like we have BAD GTA clones the Koreans have bad MMOs. Half of their games have 1 zone and don't have a con system! (RYL and RF) If you can run from the level 1 area to the level 50 area in 10 minutes your game is crap. These games arn't up to the quality of western developed MMOs. Go play RYL for a week and then come back in here complaining about DAOC or WOW.

  • RammurRammur Member Posts: 575
    Well some people on this site need to relize that everybody has diffrent tastes in game similar to people tastes in movies and books etc etc. while some love pvp,rp,hack and slash, well etc etc ya got my point so flaming a online game pretty stupid on anyones part who care you dont like it because of grind etc etc o well someof us dig them type of games,I dont love grind but on occasion i like it depends on my mood.

  • scrawnehscrawneh Member Posts: 220

    Originally posted by moxuout2
    Im really glad that this site hasn't been putting to many korean mmorpgs. Most of them are just copys of other games, mixed with 1 "New and exciting" aspect like i dont know drilling or something dumb. The fact that they dont even try to expand on there classes is kind of sadining to me. How many games can one company make that there is only 3-4 classes! I guess the company I am refering too would be Game and Game sence they have a clear copy of maple story called dragon gem. Same setup, same look, same everything besides the name. Thank god there will be some good mmorpgs realased this year. I would slit my throat if I onl had super grind korean mmorpgs to play.
    GameNgame hasn't designed any games. They are just a company that buys games from, or is the middle man of, other companies.  The company that made trickster and 'shot'-online did not make Dragon Gem... which by the way released in asia before Maplestory. So clearly Maplestory is a copy of that other piece of shit.
    You're right about everything else, though :P


  • naldricnaldric Member UncommonPosts: 909

    Originally posted by scrawneh

    Originally posted by moxuout2
    Im really glad that this site hasn't been putting to many korean mmorpgs. Most of them are just copys of other games, mixed with 1 "New and exciting" aspect like i dont know drilling or something dumb. The fact that they dont even try to expand on there classes is kind of sadining to me. How many games can one company make that there is only 3-4 classes! I guess the company I am refering too would be Game and Game sence they have a clear copy of maple story called dragon gem. Same setup, same look, same everything besides the name. Thank god there will be some good mmorpgs realased this year. I would slit my throat if I onl had super grind korean mmorpgs to play.
    GameNgame hasn't designed any games. They are just a company that buys games from, or is the middle man of, other companies.  The company that made trickster and 'shot'-online did not make Dragon Gem... which by the way released in asia before Maplestory. So clearly Maplestory is a copy of that other piece of shit.
    You're right about everything else, though :P



    I m happy companies bring Korean games to the US/Europe because it's still more games to try, and play, i had lot's of fun with L2 and RF online, i dont care if ppl say they are crap, i still had fun for 5-6 month, when EVE, DDO and AutoAssault, didnt get me through  the first free month. It's a matter of taste.
  • scrawnehscrawneh Member Posts: 220

    Originally posted by naldric

    Originally posted by scrawneh

    Originally posted by moxuout2
    Im really glad that this site hasn't been putting to many korean mmorpgs. Most of them are just copys of other games, mixed with 1 "New and exciting" aspect like i dont know drilling or something dumb. The fact that they dont even try to expand on there classes is kind of sadining to me. How many games can one company make that there is only 3-4 classes! I guess the company I am refering too would be Game and Game sence they have a clear copy of maple story called dragon gem. Same setup, same look, same everything besides the name. Thank god there will be some good mmorpgs realased this year. I would slit my throat if I onl had super grind korean mmorpgs to play.


    GameNgame hasn't designed any games. They are just a company that buys games from, or is the middle man of, other companies.  The company that made trickster and 'shot'-online did not make Dragon Gem... which by the way released in asia before Maplestory. So clearly Maplestory is a copy of that other piece of shit.
    You're right about everything else, though :P



    I m happy companies bring Korean games to the US/Europe because it's still more games to try, and play, i had lot's of fun with L2 and RF online, i dont care if ppl say they are crap, i still had fun for 5-6 month, when EVE, DDO and AutoAssault, didnt get me through  the first free month. It's a matter of taste.
    It looks more or less like he was bitching about the quality of Free 2 play games anyway.
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