Yeah I think basicly it's not about making good games anymore, now it's just about making money.
They are earning 100 million dollars per month on WOW just on subscriptions. Diablo + Starcraft didn't make them anything after people bought the box. And with WOW they can still make ekspansions, which is basicly a new game - only they can be certain all their 6.5 mill subscribers will buy it.
So in the future Bliz will probably be known for making really shitty mmorpgs, the old reputation of making great and innovative games is gone - but they probably won't care too much if they kan keep earning that kind of money.
Originally posted by Alexis598 Originally posted by stanfink "Don't get me wrong I think WoW is awesome" no it isnt.. its the most boring , static pos copy cat mmorpg ever made.
Let's not make this a WoW bashing thread. It's about Blizz's future.
And how they killed my dreams for SC:Ghost! T_T
Siehst du mich Erkennst du mich Ganz tief in meinem Herz ist noch ein Platz f?r dich Ich suche dich Ich sehne mich nach dem was ich geliebt hab doch ich find es nicht
Originally posted by Alexis598 Originally posted by stanfink "Don't get me wrong I think WoW is awesome" no it isnt.. its the most boring , static pos copy cat mmorpg ever made. Let's not make this a WoW bashing thread. It's about Blizz's future.
Oh, that wasn't random or meant to contribute to the thread. He's just a troll.
Originally posted by Thanatosx33 I dont know, in all honesty I can't see blizzard doing anything NOT WoW related in the future, unless WoW dies.
We'll just have to wait and see if they can make games like before, when they make something not WoW or Warcraft related. Meanwhile I forgive them and keep playing WoW it's not perfect but it's a pretty decent MMORPG for me.
With all the profit they're making right now you'd think that they would be able to hire some more people to develop the games that lots of us hope for, like Diablo3 and SC2 or somehting SC damnit. Starcraft: ghost kind of looked like a joke from the beginning. A stealth action game? Bleh, I'll play some metal gear solid, hitman, heh even oblivion could be a stealth game in itself, but SC stealth, hell no. When they said it was coming out for xbox and then xbox360 was getting ready to come out I knew it was doomed, stuck with old graphics engine because of how long it was taking. Give me starcraft or give me death though. If Starcraft 2 came out like 2 years ago they would most likely be destroying the competition in the RTS genre although some good games have come out, warhammer for example. A starcraft MMO sounds cool too. With a story nways.
Dawn of war is my replacement for starcraft. I think its everyones, heh. A lot of ppl who play it say that starcraft wast he most legendary RTS ever, even in comparison to the game they are playing, but DoW has graphics improvements, and a squad system for simplicity...So thats what I play for my futuristic RTS fix. Don't get me wrong, it is in no way a starcraft clone, everything is ultimately handled differently, the doing away with mining resources and replacing with strategic holding of points made the game simpler, but more strategic too. I think the whole mining resource thing is kind of silly in comparison to the strategic points sytem though. I mean, with the harvesting lumber/gold and stuff wtih individual workers...it just complicates things in a NOT fun way. Though, managing food cap and figuring that in with expansion mines strategies does require strategizing, I think it is more a pain in the ass rather then a good element. I would love to see a starcraft 2...but I mean...what could they do to the graphics realy? I don't know if the grimy graphics and surroundings could be potrayed with new age gwouldn't be the same starcraftraphics. It probably , and people would just go on about how SC1 was better...But hey, I loved starcraft and if blizzard can make a sucessfull SC2, I will be very happy.
Well, I never liked the whole micro management of gold and crap like that. Strategic points (Thusly will be known as SP cause I'm lazy as hell) allows for more focus to be on the war and not the smaller side of things. Squad base isn't because its simpler, though I have to admit I like it better then one unit at a time, its because in the warhammer 40k universe they are always a squad. Since it is war you can't just be a lone soldier unless your talking about a Tau "Fire Warrior", but even then that's not really cosier. Just because there are squads doesn't mean its going to make anything easier for you. (You being a relative term) Though I'm a fan of the Warhammer 40k universe, I highly doubt there could be a RTS that could compare to it. And soon Warhammer: Mark of Chaos will be my replacement "Fantasy" RTS. I personally can't wait until Dark Crusade comes out though. I've been wanting to play as the Tau forever!
*tangent* I think its cool that they feel that they (As of right now) don't have the graphical capabilities to do justice to the Tyurinids. */tangent*
Siehst du mich Erkennst du mich Ganz tief in meinem Herz ist noch ein Platz f?r dich Ich suche dich Ich sehne mich nach dem was ich geliebt hab doch ich find es nicht
Sorry, what I meant to mean was the squad based system is simpler and easier for "me". I didn't mean to insinuate that this was a DoW plot to overthrow SC so they made squads...I do realize that is how the game, and war works. I meant to just try and say that I thought it was easier for those reasons. Also, in starcraft you can only tell a certain amount of units what to do at a given time, in DoW you can highlight the entire screen and w/e is in that you can command to move wherever. I think the squad based system does make things slightly easier to manage.
I can't wait for necrons :P
Though...I'm also looking forward to seeing what the new units for other races will be, namely chaos :P I hope we get a new demon or something...Idk...There will be new units for the other races right? Sorry, I am a little uninformed since I haven't read up much on dark crusade.
Sorry, what I meant to mean was the squad based system is simpler and easier for "me". I didn't mean to insinuate that this was a DoW plot to overthrow SC so they made squads...I do realize that is how the game, and war works. I meant to just try and say that I thought it was easier for those reasons. Also, in starcraft you can only tell a certain amount of units what to do at a given time, in DoW you can highlight the entire screen and w/e is in that you can command to move wherever. I think the squad based system does make things slightly easier to manage.
I can't wait for necrons :P
Though...I'm also looking forward to seeing what the new units for other races will be, namely chaos :P I hope we get a new demon or something...Idk...There will be new units for the other races right? Sorry, I am a little uninformed since I haven't read up much on dark crusade.
Sorry, what I meant to mean was the squad based system is simpler and easier for "me". I didn't mean to insinuate that this was a DoW plot to overthrow SC so they made squads...I do realize that is how the game, and war works. I meant to just try and say that I thought it was easier for those reasons. Also, in starcraft you can only tell a certain amount of units what to do at a given time, in DoW you can highlight the entire screen and w/e is in that you can command to move wherever. I think the squad based system does make things slightly easier to manage.
I can't wait for necrons :P
Though...I'm also looking forward to seeing what the new units for other races will be, namely chaos :P I hope we get a new demon or something...Idk...There will be new units for the other races right? Sorry, I am a little uninformed since I haven't read up much on dark crusade.
Sorry, what I meant to mean was the squad based system is simpler and easier for "me". I didn't mean to insinuate that this was a DoW plot to overthrow SC so they made squads...I do realize that is how the game, and war works. I meant to just try and say that I thought it was easier for those reasons. Also, in starcraft you can only tell a certain amount of units what to do at a given time, in DoW you can highlight the entire screen and w/e is in that you can command to move wherever. I think the squad based system does make things slightly easier to manage.
I can't wait for necrons :P
Though...I'm also looking forward to seeing what the new units for other races will be, namely chaos :P I hope we get a new demon or something...Idk...There will be new units for the other races right? Sorry, I am a little uninformed since I haven't read up much on dark crusade.
Sorry, what I meant to mean was the squad based system is simpler and easier for "me". I didn't mean to insinuate that this was a DoW plot to overthrow SC so they made squads...I do realize that is how the game, and war works. I meant to just try and say that I thought it was easier for those reasons. Also, in starcraft you can only tell a certain amount of units what to do at a given time, in DoW you can highlight the entire screen and w/e is in that you can command to move wherever. I think the squad based system does make things slightly easier to manage.
I can't wait for necrons :P
Though...I'm also looking forward to seeing what the new units for other races will be, namely chaos :P I hope we get a new demon or something...Idk...There will be new units for the other races right? Sorry, I am a little uninformed since I haven't read up much on dark crusade.
Sorry ;p website was being dumb and wouldn't take me to next page, so i kept clicking post....seems it posted every time....sorry, hope my rank doesn't drop because of this...;/ doesn't look like i can delete the post here anywhere...
Originally posted by Thanatosx33 Sorry, what I meant to mean was the squad based system is simpler and easier for "me". I didn't mean to insinuate that this was a DoW plot to overthrow SC so they made squads...I do realize that is how the game, and war works. I meant to just try and say that I thought it was easier for those reasons. Also, in starcraft you can only tell a certain amount of units what to do at a given time, in DoW you can highlight the entire screen and w/e is in that you can command to move wherever. I think the squad based system does make things slightly easier to manage. I can't wait for necrons :P Though...I'm also looking forward to seeing what the new units for other races will be, namely chaos :P I hope we get a new demon or something...Idk...There will be new units for the other races right? Sorry, I am a little uninformed since I haven't read up much on dark crusade.
Not in this expansion. But in future ones I don't doubt it. Hopefully they stop beating chaos with a nerf stick and make them back to their former glory.
Siehst du mich Erkennst du mich Ganz tief in meinem Herz ist noch ein Platz f?r dich Ich suche dich Ich sehne mich nach dem was ich geliebt hab doch ich find es nicht
Blizzard North was re-absorbed into the main company.
who?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
No way they would give up 3 of the most successful PC titles ever.
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Originally posted by JefusCrhist No way they would give up 3 of the most successful PC titles ever.
Cause they are making millions of dallors on WoW? WoW is now blizzards cash cow. So why should they release anything not WoW releated until it dies out? I mean, we don't even know if they will develop anymore games after WoW. People can say Oh Diablo3 or Warcraft 4 or even starcraft 2, but still we have no idea if or when they will be made. Not to meantion the delays after delays. Cause Blizzard was always famous for the delays. We aren't going to see anything for a long ol time. Thats why people say they've given up on those games.
Siehst du mich Erkennst du mich Ganz tief in meinem Herz ist noch ein Platz f?r dich Ich suche dich Ich sehne mich nach dem was ich geliebt hab doch ich find es nicht
Originally posted by Thanatosx33 I think WoW has destroyed blizzard. Don't get me wrong I think WoW is awesome, but that's not what were debating today. So, blizzard announced that they are an MMORPG only company now? That means no more RTS's right?....Doesn't that kinna suck? Also, does it mean they plan on making other MMOs? If so, have there been any announcements? Or, are they just gonna obsess over WoW forever and never make anything else again other than WoW expansions?
links to statements please. The only thing i remember close to what you'r talking about is when some vivendi executives stated that mmorpg plans are in the works for all blizzard licenses. Blizzard quickly denied this.
I haven't heard anything about blizzard announceing that they are only an mmorpg company now. I find it farfetched too considering how successful their rts games have been. I could be wrong though.
Blizzard has come excelent games in the past and should never forget where the came from. WoW will not last forever and they will have to, no need to become inovative again to keep up with the future market of gammers and game critics
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I'm beginning to have doubts whether there will ever by another Starcraft of Diablo (which I personally never liked). These thoughts sadden me.
Yeah I think basicly it's not about making good games anymore, now it's just about making money.
They are earning 100 million dollars per month on WOW just on subscriptions. Diablo + Starcraft didn't make them anything after people bought the box. And with WOW they can still make ekspansions, which is basicly a new game - only they can be certain all their 6.5 mill subscribers will buy it.
So in the future Bliz will probably be known for making really shitty mmorpgs, the old reputation of making great and innovative games is gone - but they probably won't care too much if they kan keep earning that kind of money.
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Originally posted by Alexis598
Originally posted by stanfink
"Don't get me wrong I think WoW is awesome"
no it isnt.. its the most boring , static pos copy cat mmorpg ever made.
Let's not make this a WoW bashing thread. It's about Blizz's future.
Oh, that wasn't random or meant to contribute to the thread.
He's just a troll.
Dawn of war is my replacement for starcraft. I think its everyones, heh. A lot of ppl who play it say that starcraft wast he most legendary RTS ever, even in comparison to the game they are playing, but DoW has graphics improvements, and a squad system for simplicity...So thats what I play for my futuristic RTS fix. Don't get me wrong, it is in no way a starcraft clone, everything is ultimately handled differently, the doing away with mining resources and replacing with strategic holding of points made the game simpler, but more strategic too. I think the whole mining resource thing is kind of silly in comparison to the strategic points sytem though. I mean, with the harvesting lumber/gold and stuff wtih individual workers...it just complicates things in a NOT fun way. Though, managing food cap and figuring that in with expansion mines strategies does require strategizing, I think it is more a pain in the ass rather then a good element. I would love to see a starcraft 2...but I mean...what could they do to the graphics realy? I don't know if the grimy graphics and surroundings could be potrayed with new age gwouldn't be the same starcraftraphics. It probably , and people would just go on about how SC1 was better...But hey, I loved starcraft and if blizzard can make a sucessfull SC2, I will be very happy.
*tangent*
I think its cool that they feel that they (As of right now) don't have the graphical capabilities to do justice to the Tyurinids.
*/tangent*
Siehst du mich
Erkennst du mich
Ganz tief in meinem Herz
ist noch ein Platz f?r dich
Ich suche dich
Ich sehne mich
nach dem was ich geliebt hab
doch ich find es nicht
Sorry, what I meant to mean was the squad based system is simpler and easier for "me". I didn't mean to insinuate that this was a DoW plot to overthrow SC so they made squads...I do realize that is how the game, and war works. I meant to just try and say that I thought it was easier for those reasons. Also, in starcraft you can only tell a certain amount of units what to do at a given time, in DoW you can highlight the entire screen and w/e is in that you can command to move wherever. I think the squad based system does make things slightly easier to manage.
I can't wait for necrons :P
Though...I'm also looking forward to seeing what the new units for other races will be, namely chaos :P I hope we get a new demon or something...Idk...There will be new units for the other races right? Sorry, I am a little uninformed since I haven't read up much on dark crusade.
Sorry, what I meant to mean was the squad based system is simpler and easier for "me". I didn't mean to insinuate that this was a DoW plot to overthrow SC so they made squads...I do realize that is how the game, and war works. I meant to just try and say that I thought it was easier for those reasons. Also, in starcraft you can only tell a certain amount of units what to do at a given time, in DoW you can highlight the entire screen and w/e is in that you can command to move wherever. I think the squad based system does make things slightly easier to manage.
I can't wait for necrons :P
Though...I'm also looking forward to seeing what the new units for other races will be, namely chaos :P I hope we get a new demon or something...Idk...There will be new units for the other races right? Sorry, I am a little uninformed since I haven't read up much on dark crusade.
Sorry, what I meant to mean was the squad based system is simpler and easier for "me". I didn't mean to insinuate that this was a DoW plot to overthrow SC so they made squads...I do realize that is how the game, and war works. I meant to just try and say that I thought it was easier for those reasons. Also, in starcraft you can only tell a certain amount of units what to do at a given time, in DoW you can highlight the entire screen and w/e is in that you can command to move wherever. I think the squad based system does make things slightly easier to manage.
I can't wait for necrons :P
Though...I'm also looking forward to seeing what the new units for other races will be, namely chaos :P I hope we get a new demon or something...Idk...There will be new units for the other races right? Sorry, I am a little uninformed since I haven't read up much on dark crusade.
Sorry, what I meant to mean was the squad based system is simpler and easier for "me". I didn't mean to insinuate that this was a DoW plot to overthrow SC so they made squads...I do realize that is how the game, and war works. I meant to just try and say that I thought it was easier for those reasons. Also, in starcraft you can only tell a certain amount of units what to do at a given time, in DoW you can highlight the entire screen and w/e is in that you can command to move wherever. I think the squad based system does make things slightly easier to manage.
I can't wait for necrons :P
Though...I'm also looking forward to seeing what the new units for other races will be, namely chaos :P I hope we get a new demon or something...Idk...There will be new units for the other races right? Sorry, I am a little uninformed since I haven't read up much on dark crusade.
Sorry, what I meant to mean was the squad based system is simpler and easier for "me". I didn't mean to insinuate that this was a DoW plot to overthrow SC so they made squads...I do realize that is how the game, and war works. I meant to just try and say that I thought it was easier for those reasons. Also, in starcraft you can only tell a certain amount of units what to do at a given time, in DoW you can highlight the entire screen and w/e is in that you can command to move wherever. I think the squad based system does make things slightly easier to manage.
I can't wait for necrons :P
Though...I'm also looking forward to seeing what the new units for other races will be, namely chaos :P I hope we get a new demon or something...Idk...There will be new units for the other races right? Sorry, I am a little uninformed since I haven't read up much on dark crusade.
Sorry ;p website was being dumb and wouldn't take me to next page, so i kept clicking post....seems it posted every time....sorry, hope my rank doesn't drop because of this...;/ doesn't look like i can delete the post here anywhere...
Siehst du mich
Erkennst du mich
Ganz tief in meinem Herz
ist noch ein Platz f?r dich
Ich suche dich
Ich sehne mich
nach dem was ich geliebt hab
doch ich find es nicht
who?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
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Then,Starcraft: Ghost.
Then, Diablo 3.
Then, World of Starcraft/World of Warcraft 2.
Then, Blizzard makes a new franchise.
i think not al that games
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links to statements please. The only thing i remember close to what you'r talking about is when some vivendi executives stated that mmorpg plans are in the works for all blizzard licenses. Blizzard quickly denied this.
I haven't heard anything about blizzard announceing that they are only an mmorpg company now. I find it farfetched too considering how successful their rts games have been. I could be wrong though.
Blizzard has come excelent games in the past and should never forget where the came from. WoW will not last forever and they will have to, no need to become inovative again to keep up with the future market of gammers and game critics