Any PVP in this game?

Impulse47 · January 2004

I'm sorry, but for a game to hold my interest long-term... it has to have meaningful pvp... simple as that. Any word on if this game will have pvp?

It would be great if it could go from where Shadowbane left off and let us raze other people's cities... huge guild wars etc. However, if it is just going to be a huge carebear populate the world fest, count me out.

Rad_Roofer · January 2004

It is indeed a PvP game. But as far as open PvP it is not. You must choose between the Light and the Dark side. You can only attack those of the opposition.

From what it sounds, you'll also be able to hire NPC's to be your sidekick. Not sure about a full-time basis, but to attack fortresses you can do so.

This games leads to be a great one. I cannot wait for it to hit the shelves!

And the game has ALOT more interest than what is shown on these forums. At the official DnL forums, you can barely keep up on all the reading of the messages.

Theo · January 2004

I believe there are safe zones as well. PvP occurs in the wild I think.

Hawke_cr · January 2004

DNL will be full bore PvP - not sure where the poster above read about safe zones. The only "safe zones" are the two starting cities. Other than that, any where you go is full open PvP.

This game will be total gank-fest, which is too bad, it had potential.

On to UXO, WoW, and MEO I guess.

Rad_Roofer · January 2004

How is it going to be gank-fest????

Only Darks can attack Lights, and Lights can only attack Darks! Gee...sounds like alot of gank-fest to me!!! Everyone is going to be just slaughtered!!

I wish it was pure PvP....I'm hoping they'll make it possible for there to be outlaws from each "side". I am personally not PKer, but I do not mind those who chose to do so. Because eventually it'll get back to them. Especially if there is a penalty for doing so, like Lineage2 has in place.

Hawke_cr · January 2004

Gank Fest because you can be killed at any time any where unless you are in a starting city.

All of its other problems aside, DAoC showed that you can have successfull controlled PvP, games like DNL will ruin the rest of thier content by having nothing but pure PvP - what could will it do to have an immense world and sprawling dungeons if you can't go into them without getting whacked in PvP all day.

No Thanks, not my style of game. For those who want PvP and no PvE content, DNL will be for them.

Rad_Roofer · January 2004

Dude....it ain't pure PvP. If you are Light, you cannot attack another person that is Light. You can only attack them if they are of opposition to you.

ie. Light can only attack Dark

Dark can only attack Light

Light cannot attack Light

Dark cannot attack Dark

Make sense now?? And you must to be either of Light or Dark nature when you first start playing.

Hawke_cr · January 2004

I get it.. I have gotten it.. I won't be getting the game.

Controlled PvP is the only way I will play - you know there will be gank groups from both factions that will only play the game to ruin others fun - You won't be able to hunt monsters AT ALL without being prone to attack from "the other side" - IE, GANK FEST! There will be whole guilds devoted to killing other players only, not monsters Its the same thing that happened in the early days of UO. Its not the kind of game where content and graphics will matter, because the online gaming community is made up of a large number of Hardcore PKers, and this game will cater to them.

Call me carebear, I don't give a crap - I enjoy PvP, but only in a controlled setting. In DNL, no matter what *YOU* may think, there is no control, if you step out of your starting city, you are subject to attack, period.

As I said, IMHO, This will be a gankfest. Those of us looking for controlled PvP should look elsewhere.

Rad_Roofer · January 2004

Yeah, this probably isn't the right game for you! This game is going to be total chaos!! People constantly killing people of opposition. How can they create such a game!

Controlled PvP is a lame excuse for saying they have PvP in the game. Alright, lets go kill those "bad" guys. But first we have to make sure they are going to meet us there. DUMB!!

Give me seige warfare. Give me the option to kill the enemy on sight! Give me the intense adrenaline rush of being attacked by randoms. I'll admit, if I'm outnumbered or outpowered, I'm gonna run as fast and as hard as I can. And if/when I die, I find somebody, more specifically, my guildmates, to go hunt this mother-father down.

Rad_Roofer · January 2004

PvP in a controlled setting is like.....going to go play paintball. You have a specific region that you can attack in, and it really doesn't matter what happens when your playing. If you die, so what. If you kill somebody, so what.

At least with this game, you'll be killing for a purpose. To take over more land/fortresses. Protect your land. And just plain reek havoc on the opposing forces!

This land mass is huge. It is not likely that your going to get PKed every single time you take a step. If you are really scared about being killed all the time. Hire some NPC's to protect you (which I guess has been implemented in this game), or join a guild for some extra support when/if you get killed. And even simplier yet, form a group to go out hunting with.

I'm not typing all this to get you to come play this game, cuz quite frankly I don't care. I just don't want you trying to leave a nasty mark on a possibly great game!

There are plenty of games out there for those who prefer games of no conflict and risk. But enjoy them while you can, because in several years, PvP will be the only gamestyle available.

eosyne · January 2004

Are you guys stupid? Go read about the game! 40 000km^2... right your going to be ganked, your not even going to be close to light/dark in the beginning until things start heating up, you guys are so lame. Use common sense.

Matthiasa · January 2004

There will be 2 kingdoms non-PvP

http://dnl.mmoworlds.com/index.php?s=e61e9654be0599d8783c2e081bd3109c&page=articles&idart=15

Matthiasa · January 2004

there will be 2 protected learning Kingdoms

http://www.darkandlight.com/FAQ%2Bindex-myfaq-yes-id_cat-3-categories-General-parent_id-0.html

Matthiasa · January 2004

There will be 2 kingdoms non-PvP

http://dnl.mmoworlds.com/index.php?s=e61e9654be0599d8783c2e081bd3109c&page=articles&idart=15

Rad_Roofer · January 2004

Originally posted by Matthiasa

There will be 2 kingdoms non-PvP
http://dnl.mmoworlds.com/index.php?s=e61e9654be0599d8783c2e081bd3109c&page=articles&idart=15

That's a good link there...I haven't seen that one. Nor did I know about the 2 non-PvP.

Supergohan · January 2004

I myself dont really like PvP. because for some stopped reson they always attack the noobs and the low level ones. but for long time playing its great. if the PvP isn´t nearby standerd city´s in the game its fine by me. that will put a extra ellement of danger to going far from town. i love it!

or mayby an option to turn PvP on and of so that you wont get attack when you cant use it. you may say that these meens are for the weak losers, but i cant think of you guy likeing getting killed every time when you have just started playing.

desde · January 2004

-low levels will be protected by their god >if you re attacked by an high level ,he may be attacked too by a god ...

-the status of a pk will be " wanted" so it means that he "ll be researched by all the "chasseurs de prime "( sorry i cant translate it >guys who are paid to kill )

Theo · January 2004

It sounds like a reasonable PvP system to me. I enjoy open PvP, but I'll admit I find that it can be frustrating at times. Something with a few story-based limits sounds like a good compromise.

The one thing I'd love to see removed from PvP games is the ability to "con" or size up other players. If you can't tell how powerful others are in relation to yourself you'll really have to think carefully about whether or not you want to fight. It's a fair measure that would protect newbies and veterans alike.

Bobsavage · January 2004

I also read that if a high level character kills a low level character for no reason, they lose faction and social xp

bballermc333 · January 2004

A game like this needs pvp or if all else fails, it need some ACTION!

mmred · January 2004

Well sometimes you want to train alone until some freak comes up and kills you for fun. Well Pvp maybe fun or fustraiting

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Liahn · January 2004

Oh heck ya! I hope it does cater to the hardcore PK/PvP crowd!

It better... or I won't be there; it should at LEAST be open PvP similar to AC's Darktide server.

FFA is the only way to stay on the edge of your seat.

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TMcC · February 2004

Just wandering if this game is gonna have stealing?

and not from just npcs but real live players.

TMcC · February 2004

Amen Liahn.

Lemy · February 2004

stealing ? you mean to rob someone or just a mistypo and you meant stealthing ?

So far i have heard, there will be the possibility to steal from other players ...

About stealthing i haven't heard yet

rilkenaar · February 2004

Well, IMHO if there is no PvP game quickly become boring.

In DnL PvP is open in all kingdoms exept for starters. But conrols over it lies somewhere else. Kingdoms are conquerable, and if its conquered it will be quite safe for members of lord aligment. I don`t know how it will be work in game, but if Dark member enter Light kingdom, he will be attacked by guards, his mana and strength will be regenerated slowly (due mana pool), and so on.

All this will make one thing: fierce and all-out PvP will be reduced to border zone and neutral kingdoms.

This is my opinion based on forum and game FAQ

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