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Vanguard: Saga of Heroes: New Vanguard Video
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We recently received this video from Sigil/SOE highlighting some of the hot features in Vanguard: Saga of Heroes. In it you will see flying mounts, a flying city, never-before-seen zones, combat and player-owned boats!
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Seemed a little meh for me too, very generic vid. The flying creatures had stiff wings and didn't fold in on the upswing like the old EQ1 winged creatures used to be. And the blazing "the freedom"..."the glory"...etc, you see that in every vid of every new game coming out. Even the character's salute seemed stiff to me.
It's going to be a great game for some, a great dissappointment for those who think it's the second coming and will cure all including cancer, and for me the "corpse runs are fun" idea just kills it for me. If they're wanting to attract interest in this game, they could have made a better vid, imho.
Looks crap tbh.
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I like the lag they show when fighting the big monsters.
Armor looks very much like EQ2, so do the player models.
The stone texture is very like EQ2 as well. Oh and um, SOE owns it.
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I think peoples are a tadbit overharsh, but toward a harsh Vision(tm), it is earned I guess.
It doesn't look that good, but if it wasn't about their stubborness about enforcing raiding, I would have considered this game. But with raiding stubborness, I guess I will have to stick with CoV, wouldn't I?
WoW outraid them, outcasual them and certainly outPvP them. A harsh an unforgiving world? Saga of Ryzom out-hardcore them even if we tied them. I repeat it, despite all this, if it was not for raiding, I would have thinked about giving it a try...but for any game with raiding, I rather play EQ, they add like 4 expansions since I left...yet...with CoV, I won't need to go back to EQ.
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Im realy getting tired of big MMOs wasting their entire budget on graphics.
Vanguard not only looks like EQ2 graphic wise, it also plays like EQ2, the crafting system is much like EQ2.
It's basicly EQ2 if brad finished it up before selling it to SoE...but now he's working with SoE again, so it kinda makes the game pointless doesnt it?
And you know, the rolling of the dice system was FINE for EQ, with what technology could do back then it was O.K. with me. BUT WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO PHOTO REALISTIC GRAPHICS AND MMOS ARE STILL USING TIRED OLD TECHNOLOGY UNDERNEATH THE GRAPHICS
I want an MMO with Vanguard graphics + A Tale in the Desert crafting system + Roma victors location based damage system + Age of Conans dismemberment system.
UNTIL A GAME LIKE THAT COMES OUT, IM NOT BUYING ANY MORE NEW MMO's.
IM DONE.
SICK
OF
THIS
REPACKAGING
CRAP
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It does look a bit dated.......
As much as I miss the good old days of EQ I really cant see going back to it at this point. Unfortunately the game looks to be an almost exact copy.
I think I will give LOTRO a try instead. I realize it doesnt look much better but at least theres some lore behind it that I can sink my teeth into.
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e3 trailer looks even more like EQ2.
No annoying animated GIF here!
That said, this is a pretty poor video. I am not bothered about modern graphics, functional is fine for me, but this doesn't even look finished. Surely those animations aren't even close to being tuned. The fixed wings on those mounts just look terrible and the horse runs like a robot.
I am certain that by launch Vanguard's graphics will look far, far slicker than this. I really can't see the point of putting out somethign that looks so utterly unfinished at this stage. It will attract no-one and put many off.
With all this SOE hating mmorpg bashing going on I feel a bit out of place here but... I think Vanguard looks, feels and promises to be AWESOME!
I cant wait to play it, I am quite a fan of EQ2 (probably because I dont do politics and look at the game separately from everything else) and after having tried other mmorpg's to see what else is out there such as WoW, Saga of Ryzom, D & D and Hero Online and so far I have been truly unhappy and disappointed. It is a shame I cant find a game as good as EQ2
When I saw the trailer and info for Vanguard I nearly fell off my chair!
I hope that it has similar graphics EQ2 because they (in my own opinion and I am aware that you all have you own views) are the best I have seen. I think its a bit harsh (insert disclaimer here to avoid flaming) to bash on a game that is still very much in the Beta stages, Beta is all about (in my view) improving any niggles and glitches/bug etc and it doesnt help things when peeps bash you down, some because you are associated with SOE for lords sake.
The mounts look amazing and with a few tweeks (there is not a game out there that didnt need a few in beta and beyond) they will be amazing Im sure. The concepts are outstanding, especially player housing and player made boats... Vanguard may well recycle some concepts from mmorpg's that have gone before but that is because those concepts work, and lets be fair there are plenty of new ideas that I have never seen in any other mmorpg.
Roll on Vanguard! I hope it has as much success as EQ2 in my eyes (underline my). I cant wait to jump on the VSOH band wagon
it's not so much that the game is a fantasy game.. its the fact that its the same generic shit like wow , eq and everything else that is ever produced out of these crap filled bigger studios.
wake up you losers and start making some innovative games. you got the $$ for it.
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Is it me or does this game look and feel a lot like Everquest 2? Don't get me wrong, EQ2 is a wonderful game, but that's just it... there's only ONE EQ2.
I understand Warhammer is going against World of Warcraft and Vanguard is up against EQ2, but why can't they actually stop, take a look at the big picture and stop trying to copy what's already out and try making something other then elves, dwarves, etc.
It got old fast. The genre for MMORPGs has been sucked dry. Lets all hope that some of the newer titles that actually deared to take a different approach actually make it big.
I'm sick of dragons and goblins and this and that. Bring on the machines!!! Lets get some hardcore robots.
I'm right there with you. I just re-upped my AO account because I'm dying for a futuristic sci-fi mmorpg, but the lack of love to the avatar vanity is almost painful.
Back to this topic, the Vanguard Video, regardless if you're gonna love Vanguard or hate it, whether you think it looks too much like EQ2 or not, this video didn't do anything to promote the game, and in fact, I think it may have turned some people off to trying it. The video is stiff and boring and washed out and gives the impression that the game is going to be the same ol' wash & repeat fantasy mmorpg. Since SOE put the vid out on behalf of Vanguard, makes me wonder if they did it on purpose so as to not pull away their EQ2 subscribers. SOE's video of Vanguard makes it look like the ugly stepchild.
The graphics are showing only Beta 2.5. When EQ2 was at that stage, the models looked like plastic dolls.
Dont count this game out yet.
QFT. The games animations are being completely reworked at the moment for beta 3 and 4. The new diplomacy system is being unveiled, graphics are constantly being worked on and polished, and new gameplay ideas are being incorporated often. Have you seen the necromancer pet? That thing looks sweet. Not only does it look sweet, it's not some generic pet either.
Furthermore, ALL you're seeing is Thestra. Theres been a few screenshots and maybe a bit of video of Kojan and Qalia, but 90% of the stuff they've put out has been in Thestra, and so you're seeing a lot of "generic" midieval europe stuff. Kojan and Qalia will have a completely different feel.
All that said, I think the video could have been better.