Originally posted by MX13 Originally posted by tillamook Originally posted by MX13 Thanks guys... thanks for lowering yourselves to his level, and as a result giving the Mods EVERY reason to lock this post, one that was inspiring some good discussion. We all know how he was acting, we didn't need to get personal with him. His attitude was pointed out, and all could see it. It's sad that (and I'm just as guilty from time to time) we can so easily be sucked into other's hate. Yoda was right...
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That's an awefully late notice change, not to mention strange considering they have no further info... You'ld figure they'd have an idea when it would happen if it was going to happen anytime soon...
They probably had something go wrong in the transition on the back end. I would not be surprised if they took the boards down later without any notice whatsoever.
Originally posted by MX13 Originally posted by tillamook Originally posted by MX13 Thanks guys... thanks for lowering yourselves to his level, and as a result giving the Mods EVERY reason to lock this post, one that was inspiring some good discussion. We all know how he was acting, we didn't need to get personal with him. His attitude was pointed out, and all could see it. It's sad that (and I'm just as guilty from time to time) we can so easily be sucked into other's hate. Yoda was right...
QFE! I had to PM the mod to get it unlocked. BTW anyone else see this?
Thunderheart
FYI - The transition to New Forums for the SWG Community is not Tuesday, August 15th, 2006 any longer. As soon as we have a revised date for the transition, we’ll post it for you here in Announcements. Thanks!
Closing the thread now.
That's an awefully late notice change, not to mention strange considering they have no further info... You'ld figure they'd have an idea when it would happen if it was going to happen anytime soon...
Still tweaking the new design from feedback on the MXO forums I heard...
Originally posted by MX13 Originally posted by tillamook I'll Q that FE and break the 400 post count mark!
400 posts.... PFT! Noob...
964??? Supernoob.
P.S. What's the new info on the LA EMU thing? Feel free to PM it. WONDERED where the hell that post went, and I said something witty too.
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Originally posted by Shayde Originally posted by MX13 Originally posted by tillamook I'll Q that FE and break the 400 post count mark!
400 posts.... PFT! Noob...
964??? Supernoob.
P.S. What's the new info on the LA EMU thing? Feel free to PM it. WONDERED where the hell that post went, and I said something witty too. 964??? Supernoob.
P.S. What's the new info on the LA EMU thing? Feel free to PM it. WONDERED where the hell that post went, and I said something witty too.
Originally posted by Shayde Originally posted by MX13 Originally posted by tillamook I'll Q that FE and break the 400 post count mark!
400 posts.... PFT! Noob...
964??? Supernoob.
P.S. What's the new info on the LA EMU thing? Feel free to PM it. WONDERED where the hell that post went, and I said something witty too. 964??? Supernoob.
P.S. What's the new info on the LA EMU thing? Feel free to PM it. WONDERED where the hell that post went, and I said something witty too.
My two replies:
My two replies:
My two replies:
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Leave it to some Elder froum Vet to say their SOOOO great because thier post count is SOOO high. WELL THE NGE REFUGEE FORUM USERS ARE HERE TO STAY!!! GO WHINE SOMEWHERE ELSE!!! I'M UBER L33T HAXOR NUB!!! WE SHOULD ALL BE EQUAL NOW, WASN'T THAT THE POINT OF THE NGE??? TAKE AWAY +1000 POST COUNTS NOW!!!!
WOW, crazy Forums today... yeah, I said something witty as well, it was a true classic of modern American Writing... now lost to the ages.... so sad...
I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!
Originally posted by Unagi Originally posted by Shayde
Wow... they must be handing out thesaruses to the senators. Pedantic AND disingenuous in the same paragraph.. no the same sentence.
He wonders why the senators are accused of "talking down" to the others on the forum. Guess if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them in big words and bullshit.
Well at least he didn't take bagderbanger's "fukuyounooblearn2playreeeeetard" approach.
Funny. I had a feeling somebody would take that route. It's too obvious not to. I ran my post through the spelling & grammar checker in Word and the reading level estimator indicated that it wouldn't even take a 7th grade education on the Flesch-Kincaid scale to understand what I wrote. Talking over the twelve year olds that you guys spend so much energy mocking? Maybe so. Sorry for setting the bar so high, Shayde. I guess Nancy McIntyre was right after all when she said that SWG players don't seem to like reading all them big and fancy junior high school level words. This paragraph requires a 6th grade reading level. Good luck. Reading comprehension FTW.
What part of "no flames" did you fail to understand? Or to quote the great Western Philosopher Samuel L. Jackson
What country you from? They speak English in what?
Originally posted by iceman00 Originally posted by Unagi Originally posted by Shayde
Wow... they must be handing out thesaruses to the senators. Pedantic AND disingenuous in the same paragraph.. no the same sentence.
He wonders why the senators are accused of "talking down" to the others on the forum. Guess if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them in big words and bullshit.
Well at least he didn't take bagderbanger's "fukuyounooblearn2playreeeeetard" approach.
Funny. I had a feeling somebody would take that route. It's too obvious not to. I ran my post through the spelling & grammar checker in Word and the reading level estimator indicated that it wouldn't even take a 7th grade education on the Flesch-Kincaid scale to understand what I wrote. Talking over the twelve year olds that you guys spend so much energy mocking? Maybe so. Sorry for setting the bar so high, Shayde. I guess Nancy McIntyre was right after all when she said that SWG players don't seem to like reading all them big and fancy junior high school level words. This paragraph requires a 6th grade reading level. Good luck. Reading comprehension FTW.
What part of "no flames" did you fail to understand? Or to quote the great Western Philosopher Samuel L. Jackson
What country you from? They speak English in what?
And that is one our wonderful SWG Galactic Senators (who is supposed to represent u, the players), Now you understand why we were pved.
Despite our one friend who shall not be named merely ruining this thread, I got throught it, and actually thought a lot of it was good stuff. I'll join in thanking Starnick. You should've joined this community earlier. Especially could've used you after the SOE editorial. (that was an editorial that didn't turn out as planned. Rather than a true discussion of gaming decisions and the like it became NGE suxor no sftun00b NGE is the pwnzor! And irnoically enough, Obraik was one of the few people who got the point.)
Hopefully he'll stick around for some good discussions.
I hope SoE just die, they are just another evil company that trys to kill other games, Not only SoE is killing games, so is EA! They totally going to close almost every game they can get hold off, sooner or later. they are going to close down DAoC and Warhammer.
Originally posted by MX13 Originally posted by Starnick I agree, I loved the way pre-CU felt with players trying to make their way in the SW universe. It felt expansive...not just "oh new dungeon opened up, lets get the loot" repeatedly over again...maybe it was because of the newness of the game still. At any rate, players and NPCs actually felt like "real people" to a degree - Im not fond of levels either, it narrows you and your thinking. I liked the aspect that what really mattered was how much health and armour an NPC had, not its combat level strength. It served to give some extra strategy in my opinion, because there was a chance you could beat something that was "12 levels above you"...now...its very cut and dry.
And to the last poster...yes you saw flamethrowers in the prequels - jango fett. Yes, he was a BH...but mandalorians were super-commandos. A problem with the movies and SW lore, anyone could be a BH...commandos...pistoleers...etc. It wasn't a profession, just a willingless to take bounties on people - in essence, be a merceny.
Either though I was never thrilled by Commander Cody, the clones were at least genetic clones of a supercommando...and the clone generals were also ARC-trained (Advanced Recon Commandos). Commando's iconic-ness wasn't as overt as jedi, but it was still there.
But ultimately, we probably managed to survive the great profession purge because we had a whole set of unique weapons which would have been weird to integrate into other professions -or- wouldn't have made sense just having a unique set of weapons that originally comprised a profession floating out there in the game. Heavy Weapons always made a commando, and I think as long as there will be Heavy Weapons in SWG...there will always be a commando profession.
Thankfully...
Drifting Off Topic: Commandos definatly have a place in SWG, but the way they have been done has been a bit weak IMO. I would have liked to have seen Commandos be an offshoot of the Soldier, along with Squad Leader and a Combat Engineer. The difference for me is that I would have prefered to see the Commando get Innate Armor, some Basic Stealth Abilities (sneaking, not cloaking), Bonuses with some Weps (Carbines, Rifles & Unarmed), and specials along the lines of Explosives, Sniping & Orbital Strikes. I would have liked to see a Combat Engineer added that used Heavy Weapons, place defences, place turrets, and could opperate Large Vehicals (AT-ST's), similar to real CE's. Pre-CU until now, they really could have done a MUCH better job with the GCW combat rolls.
Also, Rank and Rank Abilities/Bonuses should be kept in line with the GCW faction system, not a profession. Give SL's Special Tactical abilities, but keep rank and those bonuses seperate. For example, give a Colonel better Group Bonuses if he is leading the group, but give a SL Col double the bonuses...
Yeah, I hear ya. Early on...and I really mean -early- on, commandos had a lot of fantasies to be really "commandos". Rather than just have a rocket launcher, we'd have an assault rifle as our main weapon (why the underslung carbine is so popular with many commandos...it speaks to us and its a pity it never got into the game), have stealth abilities because commando's go behind enemy lines. Be unarmed experts, where we can silence enemies with a swift twist to the neck, etc etc.
Pre-CU that would've stepped on a lot of toes (a true commando in regards to job description would be a mixture of Commando, Carbineer, TKA, and Ranger - especially when the ranger enhancements were being planned), and after late into the CU kinda died out as we conformed to the basic premise of just being a damage dealer. Primarily, in my opinion, because by then we were two years without a strong - and fixed profession so it got to the point of "For the love of god, just give us the basic simple role!" rather than the "all out fantasy dream role", because it just wouldn't have been possible given the rate of development and direction the devs were giving the game and the professions.
Now in a SWG2, I'd love to see a true commando profession other than just a heavy weapons specialist. But that's another story I guess.
And - off topic to the quote, SOE Editorial? Anyone got a link?
Originally posted by Starnick Originally posted by MX13 Originally posted by Starnick I agree, I loved the way pre-CU felt with players trying to make their way in the SW universe. It felt expansive...not just "oh new dungeon opened up, lets get the loot" repeatedly over again...maybe it was because of the newness of the game still. At any rate, players and NPCs actually felt like "real people" to a degree - Im not fond of levels either, it narrows you and your thinking. I liked the aspect that what really mattered was how much health and armour an NPC had, not its combat level strength. It served to give some extra strategy in my opinion, because there was a chance you could beat something that was "12 levels above you"...now...its very cut and dry.
And to the last poster...yes you saw flamethrowers in the prequels - jango fett. Yes, he was a BH...but mandalorians were super-commandos. A problem with the movies and SW lore, anyone could be a BH...commandos...pistoleers...etc. It wasn't a profession, just a willingless to take bounties on people - in essence, be a merceny.
Either though I was never thrilled by Commander Cody, the clones were at least genetic clones of a supercommando...and the clone generals were also ARC-trained (Advanced Recon Commandos). Commando's iconic-ness wasn't as overt as jedi, but it was still there.
But ultimately, we probably managed to survive the great profession purge because we had a whole set of unique weapons which would have been weird to integrate into other professions -or- wouldn't have made sense just having a unique set of weapons that originally comprised a profession floating out there in the game. Heavy Weapons always made a commando, and I think as long as there will be Heavy Weapons in SWG...there will always be a commando profession.
Thankfully...
Drifting Off Topic: Commandos definatly have a place in SWG, but the way they have been done has been a bit weak IMO. I would have liked to have seen Commandos be an offshoot of the Soldier, along with Squad Leader and a Combat Engineer. The difference for me is that I would have prefered to see the Commando get Innate Armor, some Basic Stealth Abilities (sneaking, not cloaking), Bonuses with some Weps (Carbines, Rifles & Unarmed), and specials along the lines of Explosives, Sniping & Orbital Strikes. I would have liked to see a Combat Engineer added that used Heavy Weapons, place defences, place turrets, and could opperate Large Vehicals (AT-ST's), similar to real CE's. Pre-CU until now, they really could have done a MUCH better job with the GCW combat rolls.
Also, Rank and Rank Abilities/Bonuses should be kept in line with the GCW faction system, not a profession. Give SL's Special Tactical abilities, but keep rank and those bonuses seperate. For example, give a Colonel better Group Bonuses if he is leading the group, but give a SL Col double the bonuses...
Yeah, I hear ya. Early on...and I really mean -early- on, commandos had a lot of fantasies to be really "commandos". Rather than just have a rocket launcher, we'd have an assault rifle as our main weapon (why the underslung carbine is so popular with many commandos...it speaks to us and its a pity it never got into the game), have stealth abilities because commando's go behind enemy lines. Be unarmed experts, where we can silence enemies with a swift twist to the neck, etc etc.
Pre-CU that would've stepped on a lot of toes (a true commando in regards to job description would be a mixture of Commando, Carbineer, TKA, and Ranger - especially when the ranger enhancements were being planned), and after late into the CU kinda died out as we conformed to the basic premise of just being a damage dealer. Primarily, in my opinion, because by then we were two years without a strong - and fixed profession so it got to the point of "For the love of god, just give us the basic simple role!" rather than the "all out fantasy dream role", because it just wouldn't have been possible given the rate of development and direction the devs were giving the game and the professions.
Now in a SWG2, I'd love to see a true commando profession other than just a heavy weapons specialist. But that's another story I guess.
And - off topic to the quote, SOE Editorial? Anyone got a link?
YAH SOE/LA Editorial. Analyzes the whole "silent majority" in gaming, particularly to the NGE.
Originally posted by tillamook BTW which GS was that who started the flame war? Was it that meatstick- hambone -meatMuppet -meatSmaker whatever his name is?
Originally posted by KenshuAni Originally posted by tillamook BTW which GS was that who started the flame war? Was it that meatstick- hambone -meatMuppet -meatSmaker whatever his name is?
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QFE! I had to PM the mod to get it unlocked. BTW anyone else see this?
Thunderheart
FYI - The transition to New Forums for the SWG Community is not Tuesday, August 15th, 2006 any longer.
As soon as we have a revised date for the transition, we’ll post it for you here in Announcements.
Thanks!
Closing the thread now.
That's an awefully late notice change, not to mention strange considering they have no further info... You'ld figure they'd have an idea when it would happen if it was going to happen anytime soon...
They probably had something go wrong in the transition on the back end. I would not be surprised if they took the boards down later without any notice whatsoever.
Which thread?
What was it titled?
QFE! I had to PM the mod to get it unlocked. BTW anyone else see this?
Thunderheart
FYI - The transition to New Forums for the SWG Community is not Tuesday, August 15th, 2006 any longer.
As soon as we have a revised date for the transition, we’ll post it for you here in Announcements.
Thanks!
Closing the thread now.
That's an awefully late notice change, not to mention strange considering they have no further info... You'ld figure they'd have an idea when it would happen if it was going to happen anytime soon...
Still tweaking the new design from feedback on the MXO forums I heard...
who got banned?
Still tweaking the new design from feedback on the MXO forums I heard...
who got banned?
Good info. Post any links if ya got'em...
I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!
In fact, forget the SWG!!!!
Nevermind - found it.
Very interesting indeed.
What is LF Network?
964??? Supernoob.
P.S. What's the new info on the LA EMU thing? Feel free to PM it. WONDERED where the hell that post went, and I said something witty too.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Love, Sodapop
964??? Supernoob.
P.S. What's the new info on the LA EMU thing? Feel free to PM it. WONDERED where the hell that post went, and I said something witty too.
964??? Supernoob.
P.S. What's the new info on the LA EMU thing? Feel free to PM it. WONDERED where the hell that post went, and I said something witty too.
I'm catching up :P
I'm catching up :P
I'm catching up :P
964??? Supernoob.
P.S. What's the new info on the LA EMU thing? Feel free to PM it. WONDERED where the hell that post went, and I said something witty too.
964??? Supernoob.
P.S. What's the new info on the LA EMU thing? Feel free to PM it. WONDERED where the hell that post went, and I said something witty too.
My two replies:
My two replies:
My two replies:
1-
Leave it to some Elder froum Vet to say their SOOOO great because thier post count is SOOO high. WELL THE NGE REFUGEE FORUM USERS ARE HERE TO STAY!!! GO WHINE SOMEWHERE ELSE!!! I'M UBER L33T HAXOR NUB!!! WE SHOULD ALL BE EQUAL NOW, WASN'T THAT THE POINT OF THE NGE??? TAKE AWAY +1000 POST COUNTS NOW!!!!
2-
Oh, so it's a Noob fight you want , eh?
NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB, NOOB & a NUB to top it off...
WOW, crazy Forums today... yeah, I said something witty as well, it was a true classic of modern American Writing... now lost to the ages.... so sad...
I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!
In fact, forget the SWG!!!!
I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!
In fact, forget the SWG!!!!
yay
What part of "no flames" did you fail to understand? Or to quote the great Western Philosopher Samuel L. Jackson
What country you from? They speak English in what?
What part of "no flames" did you fail to understand? Or to quote the great Western Philosopher Samuel L. Jackson
What country you from? They speak English in what?
And that is one our wonderful SWG Galactic Senators (who is supposed to represent u, the players), Now you understand why we were pved.
Despite our one friend who shall not be named merely ruining this thread, I got throught it, and actually thought a lot of it was good stuff. I'll join in thanking Starnick. You should've joined this community earlier.
Especially could've used you after the SOE editorial. (that was an editorial that didn't turn out as planned. Rather than a true discussion of gaming decisions and the like it became NGE suxor no sftun00b NGE is the pwnzor! And irnoically enough, Obraik was one of the few people who got the point.)
Hopefully he'll stick around for some good discussions.
I hope SoE just die, they are just another evil company that trys to kill other games, Not only SoE is killing games, so is EA! They totally going to close almost every game they can get hold off, sooner or later. they are going to close down DAoC and Warhammer.
Drifting Off Topic: Commandos definatly have a place in SWG, but the way they have been done has been a bit weak IMO. I would have liked to have seen Commandos be an offshoot of the Soldier, along with Squad Leader and a Combat Engineer. The difference for me is that I would have prefered to see the Commando get Innate Armor, some Basic Stealth Abilities (sneaking, not cloaking), Bonuses with some Weps (Carbines, Rifles & Unarmed), and specials along the lines of Explosives, Sniping & Orbital Strikes. I would have liked to see a Combat Engineer added that used Heavy Weapons, place defences, place turrets, and could opperate Large Vehicals (AT-ST's), similar to real CE's. Pre-CU until now, they really could have done a MUCH better job with the GCW combat rolls.
Also, Rank and Rank Abilities/Bonuses should be kept in line with the GCW faction system, not a profession. Give SL's Special Tactical abilities, but keep rank and those bonuses seperate. For example, give a Colonel better Group Bonuses if he is leading the group, but give a SL Col double the bonuses...
Yeah, I hear ya. Early on...and I really mean -early- on, commandos had a lot of fantasies to be really "commandos". Rather than just have a rocket launcher, we'd have an assault rifle as our main weapon (why the underslung carbine is so popular with many commandos...it speaks to us and its a pity it never got into the game), have stealth abilities because commando's go behind enemy lines. Be unarmed experts, where we can silence enemies with a swift twist to the neck, etc etc.
Pre-CU that would've stepped on a lot of toes (a true commando in regards to job description would be a mixture of Commando, Carbineer, TKA, and Ranger - especially when the ranger enhancements were being planned), and after late into the CU kinda died out as we conformed to the basic premise of just being a damage dealer. Primarily, in my opinion, because by then we were two years without a strong - and fixed profession so it got to the point of "For the love of god, just give us the basic simple role!" rather than the "all out fantasy dream role", because it just wouldn't have been possible given the rate of development and direction the devs were giving the game and the professions.
Now in a SWG2, I'd love to see a true commando profession other than just a heavy weapons specialist. But that's another story I guess.
And - off topic to the quote, SOE Editorial? Anyone got a link?
Drifting Off Topic: Commandos definatly have a place in SWG, but the way they have been done has been a bit weak IMO. I would have liked to have seen Commandos be an offshoot of the Soldier, along with Squad Leader and a Combat Engineer. The difference for me is that I would have prefered to see the Commando get Innate Armor, some Basic Stealth Abilities (sneaking, not cloaking), Bonuses with some Weps (Carbines, Rifles & Unarmed), and specials along the lines of Explosives, Sniping & Orbital Strikes. I would have liked to see a Combat Engineer added that used Heavy Weapons, place defences, place turrets, and could opperate Large Vehicals (AT-ST's), similar to real CE's. Pre-CU until now, they really could have done a MUCH better job with the GCW combat rolls.
Also, Rank and Rank Abilities/Bonuses should be kept in line with the GCW faction system, not a profession. Give SL's Special Tactical abilities, but keep rank and those bonuses seperate. For example, give a Colonel better Group Bonuses if he is leading the group, but give a SL Col double the bonuses...
Yeah, I hear ya. Early on...and I really mean -early- on, commandos had a lot of fantasies to be really "commandos". Rather than just have a rocket launcher, we'd have an assault rifle as our main weapon (why the underslung carbine is so popular with many commandos...it speaks to us and its a pity it never got into the game), have stealth abilities because commando's go behind enemy lines. Be unarmed experts, where we can silence enemies with a swift twist to the neck, etc etc.
Pre-CU that would've stepped on a lot of toes (a true commando in regards to job description would be a mixture of Commando, Carbineer, TKA, and Ranger - especially when the ranger enhancements were being planned), and after late into the CU kinda died out as we conformed to the basic premise of just being a damage dealer. Primarily, in my opinion, because by then we were two years without a strong - and fixed profession so it got to the point of "For the love of god, just give us the basic simple role!" rather than the "all out fantasy dream role", because it just wouldn't have been possible given the rate of development and direction the devs were giving the game and the professions.
Now in a SWG2, I'd love to see a true commando profession other than just a heavy weapons specialist. But that's another story I guess.
And - off topic to the quote, SOE Editorial? Anyone got a link?
YAH SOE/LA Editorial. Analyzes the whole "silent majority" in gaming, particularly to the NGE.
http://mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setview/features/loadFeature/714/gameID/6
Just went back through and figured that out.