Originally posted by Minsc Originally posted by nomadian
It's a rip off because they charge for additions to a game that people are already paying for.
But this is a tradition with every mmorpg, it is to cover server costs really but because WoW make so much the rest really goes as profit. I guess I can see from a new person perspective how raising the level cap basically obliterates the past investments of time to gear up and that but I don't think its that common a worry, most people are just happy to see more content. But in future expansions, they may not always raise the level cap, as in other mmorpgs they don't. Additionally, I think the next expansion will probably be already in the works as it is a moneyspinner for Blizzard.
That's BS, monthy sub fees provide more than enough revenue to pay server costs on an MMO once you get above about 60K subs, once that happens they are making steady money. Obviousily WoW's server costs are a bigger factor due to the number of them, but with the amount of subs they have they are bringing in wads of cash. They could easily afford to release this expansion free of charge they just chose not to, and instead are following a practise pioneered by SOE with EQ1.
There are several MMO's on the market that don't charge for expansions, EVE and L2 being the most prominent, CoX I would also classify as another as CoV wasn't so much an expansion as a different game that tied in with CoH. An expansion should add new gameplay elements and features to a game, not just add more content, otherwise the game will become stale.
An Expansion is extra additional content. you pay a monthly fee for server upkeep + staff + additional content. you do get additional content, and nobody is forcing you to buy the expansion.
I think it stinks that they now allow both sides to play shammy and pally. That just seems like a really shitty and cheap way to mix things up. Blizzard has made soooooo much money off this game so far. They should reward all their fans by doing a quality expansion instead of trying to ring every cent out of them. I mean at some point the WoW team were gamers themselves, right?
Also, is the expansion really $50? Jesus that is high! I mean it's not even a whole game!
yes its rip off in my opinion. they have put alot of stuff in the expansion but there is hardly anything *NEW* in it. I feel like it's an big update which u have to pay extra bucks for. There is nothing interesting in the expansion. Wow's skills are boring they are just new ranks of above rank. The most annoying thing is that there are no alternatives in gaming market.
i wont buy expansion. sounds like grind fest where u cant enjoy with your whatever u grinded for. (everyone knows the pvp sucks)
That's honestly good enough for me. I was expecting NOTHING of this expansion, and now it's actually making me consider reupping my account. They just better hope no good single-player games come out first.
That's honestly good enough for me. I was expecting NOTHING of this expansion, and now it's actually making me consider reupping my account. They just better hope no good single-player games come out first.
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, nuff said.
In War - Victory. In Peace - Vigilance. In Death - Sacrifice.
Originally posted by holythough Well it is think about it 2 new races total ! well it's something at least you finally can play a beautiful women char on horde side but bit lacking IMO NO NEW CLASSES!!!! A good MMORPG would have at least 2 new classes to have something intresting new to play instead they make shaman and paladin possible on the opposite side to screw the last bit of fun diversity in the game go away. This will hurt PvP aswell sins that will become totally that same for both sides which takes pasrt of the fun factor away MONTHS WORK SCREWED BY UPING MAX LVL all your hard earned gear from months raiding totally useless and besides that you can be pretty sure they only worth while exping can be done in the expansion zones making the expansion an OBLIGATION to reach max level. no classic play options like in other mmorpg's. The already massively money making mmorpg wouldn't make enough EXTRA profit withouth the expansion you will be screwed stuck with to low lvl mobs to kill if you don't buy the expansion. I haven't seen any announcements of new mobs in pre expansion erea's to compensate for this JEWELCRAFTING ANOTHER BORING CRAFT well can't really complain WoW isn't really good in the crafting erea but why does that socketablity the introduce feel like a complete copy of there diablo II socketability at least a company like blizzard could do something NEW ????????? We where used to get the new and best of there genre of blizzard but nowdays there just milking old ideas Ok it has some new erea's but that obligation with an new expansion. It wouldn't qaulify as expansion withouth new erea's. In total i see 2 new things that are intresting FLYING MOUNTS well that could actaully be fun to bad you can only use em in the expansion erea's and then the TIME LAPSE part of the game that could be intresting but i understand it's just one dugeon that that happens still it's fun addition. Blizzard which i always thoughed to be an excellent gaming company has found out with diablo II that ITEM driven games keep hordes of (especially younger)peeps playing for ages and and are becomming a greedy rip-off company whoring item lovers for there money. Oh yeah there some new stuff in the expansion but they main thing the expansion gives is making that items people worked there freaking ASS off raiding for totally useless so the grind for ITEMS can start all over again. This is a rip-off costing about 50 dollars and then the monthly cost thats probably beeing payed by the parents. It's no wonder that WoW isn't in the Highest ranking list anymore and after the expansion is out it can't be taken serious anymore sins normal mmorpg bring more then ITEM driven crap
Sigh, seems like WoW was/is your first MMO and you just dont understand the way things work.
Originally posted by Gameloading Originally posted by Minsc Originally posted by nomadian
It's a rip off because they charge for additions to a game that people are already paying for.
But this is a tradition with every mmorpg, it is to cover server costs really but because WoW make so much the rest really goes as profit. I guess I can see from a new person perspective how raising the level cap basically obliterates the past investments of time to gear up and that but I don't think its that common a worry, most people are just happy to see more content. But in future expansions, they may not always raise the level cap, as in other mmorpgs they don't. Additionally, I think the next expansion will probably be already in the works as it is a moneyspinner for Blizzard.
That's BS, monthy sub fees provide more than enough revenue to pay server costs on an MMO once you get above about 60K subs, once that happens they are making steady money. Obviousily WoW's server costs are a bigger factor due to the number of them, but with the amount of subs they have they are bringing in wads of cash. They could easily afford to release this expansion free of charge they just chose not to, and instead are following a practise pioneered by SOE with EQ1.
There are several MMO's on the market that don't charge for expansions, EVE and L2 being the most prominent, CoX I would also classify as another as CoV wasn't so much an expansion as a different game that tied in with CoH. An expansion should add new gameplay elements and features to a game, not just add more content, otherwise the game will become stale.
An Expansion is extra additional content. you pay a monthly fee for server upkeep + staff + additional content. you do get additional content, and nobody is forcing you to buy the expansion. An Expansion is extra additional content. you pay a monthly fee for server upkeep + staff + additional content. you do get additional content, and nobody is forcing you to buy the expansion.
Actaully with uping the max level and no content added to lvl in the original part of WoW they kinda force the expansion on you. Only way to really lvl to that lvl70 is in the new outlands. As i stated before this is the main reason i consider it a complete rip-off. If you up the max lvl at least there should be content added in the classical part of WoW so peeps are able to get max lvl there aswell and people playing expansion will get to classical parts from time to time.
This is not the case so now the classical WoW game is totally useless after lvl60 although you still pay as much monthly cost. If you look a decent mmorpg companies like Mythic if there expansion added to little like just a bit of land and housing option the released that part of the game for free. A lot of the expansion had new classes. the ones that didn't had something really new added to the game never done in the game before. During the time that the game run all free expansion where avaible for the classical game aswell. If content was added by patch releases it was always avaible for classical game aswell. After all this time there now a whooping 44 classes you can play compare that with the PATHETIC 9 you can play in WoW.
Blizzard goes into the mmorpg market but the treat there customers as solo game players. Until lvl60 it's more like diablo II more then groups of 8 isn't needed. Almost all parts except instances can more or less be soloed. No reall need to group except for raiding instances.
Sadly this rip-off is probably going to work aswell. peeps that still are in the game are so dying for something new that can keep them busy for more then a month which the normal 1 dugeon patch does they jump for the change. The peeps that already quit might even return because that are the people which after raiding for a month or two had something like "he this not for me" may come back because it is actaully a enyoable game for single and small group play and you would have 10 new levels with new qeust it should for the more casaul player be another 3 months of fun play with an "need" chat channel .
But from a standpoint of what a MMORPG should be WoW and especially the new expansion is a complete RIP-OFF. Let face it mmorpg players want meaningfull econimics sins blizzard keeps comming out with a new tier armor thats only avaible by raiding and then is bound to the player the econimics are pathetic. RPG part is none existing 9 classes ??? and now your even able to play them at both sides ???? omg how pathetic can you get. In a WoW pvp server it still a little there with the fact you can kill everybody anyware so you get a bit of good versus evil feel but besides that there's no meaningfull RPG part in WoW. i really hoped blizzard would show the mmorpg world you could make a mmorpg wich is meaningfull for both casaul and hardcore players but it turns out to be a adoptation of diablo II to an persistent world. IMO it doesn't deserve to be called an MMORPG
Originally posted by Vanillacream Originally posted by holythough Well it is think about it 2 new races total ! well it's something at least you finally can play a beautiful women char on horde side but bit lacking IMO NO NEW CLASSES!!!! A good MMORPG would have at least 2 new classes to have something intresting new to play instead they make shaman and paladin possible on the opposite side to screw the last bit of fun diversity in the game go away. This will hurt PvP aswell sins that will become totally that same for both sides which takes pasrt of the fun factor away MONTHS WORK SCREWED BY UPING MAX LVL all your hard earned gear from months raiding totally useless and besides that you can be pretty sure they only worth while exping can be done in the expansion zones making the expansion an OBLIGATION to reach max level. no classic play options like in other mmorpg's. The already massively money making mmorpg wouldn't make enough EXTRA profit withouth the expansion you will be screwed stuck with to low lvl mobs to kill if you don't buy the expansion. I haven't seen any announcements of new mobs in pre expansion erea's to compensate for this JEWELCRAFTING ANOTHER BORING CRAFT well can't really complain WoW isn't really good in the crafting erea but why does that socketablity the introduce feel like a complete copy of there diablo II socketability at least a company like blizzard could do something NEW ????????? We where used to get the new and best of there genre of blizzard but nowdays there just milking old ideas Ok it has some new erea's but that obligation with an new expansion. It wouldn't qaulify as expansion withouth new erea's. In total i see 2 new things that are intresting FLYING MOUNTS well that could actaully be fun to bad you can only use em in the expansion erea's and then the TIME LAPSE part of the game that could be intresting but i understand it's just one dugeon that that happens still it's fun addition. Blizzard which i always thoughed to be an excellent gaming company has found out with diablo II that ITEM driven games keep hordes of (especially younger)peeps playing for ages and and are becomming a greedy rip-off company whoring item lovers for there money. Oh yeah there some new stuff in the expansion but they main thing the expansion gives is making that items people worked there freaking ASS off raiding for totally useless so the grind for ITEMS can start all over again. This is a rip-off costing about 50 dollars and then the monthly cost thats probably beeing payed by the parents. It's no wonder that WoW isn't in the Highest ranking list anymore and after the expansion is out it can't be taken serious anymore sins normal mmorpg bring more then ITEM driven crap
Sigh, seems like WoW was/is your first MMO and you just dont understand the way things work.
Actaully DAoC was the first mmorpg so im spoiled i actaully played the mmoprg from the most decent mmorpg company around. I still think all these so called mmorpg's could take a lesson from mythic. Sure mythic made mistakes but they at least tryed to created balance and tryed to expaned on there original ideas withouth screwing up the player base. i reactevated my DAoC twice after certain expansion came out and had at least a few months of reall fun again with my max lvl chars and always lvled another char to max lvl besides the ones i already had and every time it was more diverse and less a grind (also because of the fact you start at a higher lvl). From all the MMORPG i played DAoC is still the one that IMO does the job the best.
BLizzard just mailt me with there newest rip-off. I still wondering when this game loving company turned to the dark site. Are all Blizzard employees playing horde or something. There getting as corrupt as EA and SOE
World of Warcraft Trading Card Game(blizzard new way to get your hard earned cash).
Blizzard has never been knowed for "rich" expansions, look at warcraft III the expansion hardly added anything, but there is always something that makes the expasion different from the original game. But they don't owe you anything, so don't whine, no one is forcing you to buy it..
The sad thing is, is that with the amount of time they've invested into this expansion pack, they're only adding 25% more landmass to the current game. One would assume that with almost 7 million copies SOLD that they'd have enough folks working on the game to make AT LEAST a 50% world size jump and add TONS fo new things such as more than just 2 races, more professions, more classes, ect. But Blizzard still treats it as if they're only a 500,000 copies game.
If they don't watch it, that 7 million mark might be down to 500,000 users before they know it! There is enough competition coming out with the next 6 months - 1 year that could do it!
Many of you is forgetting to see it from the developers side. I don't think it's easy to control such a big company as Blizzard. They can't listen each and everyone of their users. I know they don't add much and it's a pretty lousy compared to other expansions, but i think Blizzard rather publish a little expansion so their users don't loose interest, instead of pushing the deadline 2 years or something, so they can add more to the game.
Go play UO , They have done alot of changes and updates in the last 6 months ,including the upcoming testing of punkbuster (the devs have stated if doesnt work they will can it) , PVP is better , but still not to the point of the old day's , getting there tho.
Only thing that missing is newer graphics , but with EA's all of the sudden (re)interest in MMO's( couldnt they have done it years ago ) and the release of 9th anniversary coming in OCT. (rumour to be called A New Age)a new engine is heavely rumoured for next years 10th annisversary. 14 day trial can be found on uo.com.
As for WOW I played it for a week , liked the graphics but wasn't for me..
Originally posted by Hadesprime Originally posted by mozis WoW was always an item driven kiddie grind fest, and you are just noticing now? Just so you know it is now the year 2006, disco is dead and so is Elvis, welcome back to the present! I trust your stay in mindless self indulgence and 40 man raids was comfortable?
ignornace is bliss you best stay there.
there will be no 40 man raid instances in BC.
It seems that you have no sense of comprehension... I was NOT talking about BC, I was talking about the original 40 mans. The next time you try to flame someone at least try to figure out what they are saying first, I understand that must be a difficult task for you.
I don't get it... Why are MMOs so much about "new classes" anyway? I mean, I'd rather have more interesting things added to the existing classes than more new classes that are just as shallow and bland as the existing ones.
I learned this lesson well back in the days of God Wars muds. The original God Wars had vampires, werewolves, and demons (And also mages, but most games disabled them). The classes were actually different in that demons could turn into objects and harass people and/or assist a friend as a weapon and even continue to harass someone once they had died and were only a severed head! Vampires could mimic other people and do their worst to defame someone and had a variety of magics and special abilities at their disposal, while werewolves were sheer powerhouses, though they had some abilities of their own as well.
Then everyone started making Godwars muds and there came new classes and they were all the same boring crap with different commands to execute combos and their own class gear. All the same.
I want deeper and more interesting classes, not more boring classes than I can shake a stick at.
Originally posted by 13erQS Many of you is forgetting to see it from the developers side. I don't think it's easy to control such a big company as Blizzard. They can't listen each and everyone of their users. I know they don't add much and it's a pretty lousy compared to other expansions, but i think Blizzard rather publish a little expansion so their users don't loose interest, instead of pushing the deadline 2 years or something, so they can add more to the game.
Oh please! I'm normally on the developers side sins i have some programming experience and know a bit about what comes along when you want a actaul mmorpg. But thats just the point. Blizzard claims to have 5 million subscribers let say for agrument sake there only paying $10 thats freaking 50 million dollars a month reveneu from 1 game. to make a vaible mmorpg you only need about 20k subscribers and then you wouild still have a dev team doing updates and adding content. Blizzard has suchs a large profit on WoW they could actaully hire an entire dev team for a totally new mmorpg on a monthly basis.
And for all those devoted, loyale grinders the come up with an expansion like this ????????????????
From developers point a view looking at the reveneus this game has it's an utterly incredible BIG RIP-OFF. From a player point of view it's about 80% of what the normal mmorpg player gets from an normal expansion and it's about a year too late. If Mythic had this kinda reveneu they would bring out patches as big as this expansion on 3 monthly basis just to return something to there loyal players
I don't see how it is a rip-off. It is a frigging expansion, the only way I can see how it is a ripoff is because of its price. It is tradition for many mmorpgs to release new content with expansions, and yes every mmorpg will do it differently- EQ for instance did not release a class every expansion. My guess is that WoW's next expansion will contain a lot of the more 'novel' features with most likely a class or two as well as likely some more emphasis on pvp. I think it will be quite a key expansion as it could potentially add some much-lacking creativity.
Originally posted by nomadian I don't see how it is a rip-off. It is a frigging expansion, the only way I can see how it is a ripoff is because of its price. It is tradition for many mmorpgs to release new content with expansions, and yes every mmorpg will do it differently- EQ for instance did not release a class every expansion. My guess is that WoW's next expansion will contain a lot of the more 'novel' features with most likely a class or two as well as likely some more emphasis on pvp. I think it will be quite a key expansion as it could potentially add some much-lacking creativity.
The fact is your forced to buy it because you not able to reach max lvl withouth it.
Your already paying a monthly fee so forcing people in anyway to make them to buy the expansion i would consider a rip-off tatic.
The fact is your forced to buy it because you not able to reach max lvl withouth it.Your already paying a monthly fee so forcing people in anyway to make them to buy the expansion i would consider a rip-off tatic.
You are hardly forced, you can still play. And isn't it usually the case expansions have something that will give you an edge. For example, are you saying in DAoC that you didn't have items in expansions that obsoleted old areas and to have a chance of competing you really had to buy the expansion? I find it hard to believe if it didn't, and don't believe it didn't because I know some people who played DAoC.
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But this is a tradition with every mmorpg, it is to cover server costs really but because WoW make so much the rest really goes as profit. I guess I can see from a new person perspective how raising the level cap basically obliterates the past investments of time to gear up and that but I don't think its that common a worry, most people are just happy to see more content. But in future expansions, they may not always raise the level cap, as in other mmorpgs they don't. Additionally, I think the next expansion will probably be already in the works as it is a moneyspinner for Blizzard.
That's BS, monthy sub fees provide more than enough revenue to pay server costs on an MMO once you get above about 60K subs, once that happens they are making steady money. Obviousily WoW's server costs are a bigger factor due to the number of them, but with the amount of subs they have they are bringing in wads of cash. They could easily afford to release this expansion free of charge they just chose not to, and instead are following a practise pioneered by SOE with EQ1.
There are several MMO's on the market that don't charge for expansions, EVE and L2 being the most prominent, CoX I would also classify as another as CoV wasn't so much an expansion as a different game that tied in with CoH. An expansion should add new gameplay elements and features to a game, not just add more content, otherwise the game will become stale.
An Expansion is extra additional content. you pay a monthly fee for server upkeep + staff + additional content. you do get additional content, and nobody is forcing you to buy the expansion.
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
I think it stinks that they now allow both sides to play shammy and pally. That just seems like a really shitty and cheap way to mix things up. Blizzard has made soooooo much money off this game so far. They should reward all their fans by doing a quality expansion instead of trying to ring every cent out of them. I mean at some point the WoW team were gamers themselves, right?
Also, is the expansion really $50? Jesus that is high! I mean it's not even a whole game!
Which FF Character Are You?
yes its rip off in my opinion. they have put alot of stuff in the expansion but there is hardly anything *NEW* in it. I feel like it's an big update which u have to pay extra bucks for. There is nothing interesting in the expansion. Wow's skills are boring they are just new ranks of above rank. The most annoying thing is that there are no alternatives in gaming market.
i wont buy expansion. sounds like grind fest where u cant enjoy with your whatever u grinded for. (everyone knows the pvp sucks)
Flying mounts.
Large new lands.
OUTLAND!
CAVERNS OF TIME!
FEL ORCS!
World PvP.
Elimination of DKs.
10-25 man raids.
That's honestly good enough for me. I was expecting NOTHING of this expansion, and now it's actually making me consider reupping my account. They just better hope no good single-player games come out first.
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
But this is a tradition with every mmorpg, it is to cover server costs really but because WoW make so much the rest really goes as profit. I guess I can see from a new person perspective how raising the level cap basically obliterates the past investments of time to gear up and that but I don't think its that common a worry, most people are just happy to see more content. But in future expansions, they may not always raise the level cap, as in other mmorpgs they don't. Additionally, I think the next expansion will probably be already in the works as it is a moneyspinner for Blizzard.
That's BS, monthy sub fees provide more than enough revenue to pay server costs on an MMO once you get above about 60K subs, once that happens they are making steady money. Obviousily WoW's server costs are a bigger factor due to the number of them, but with the amount of subs they have they are bringing in wads of cash. They could easily afford to release this expansion free of charge they just chose not to, and instead are following a practise pioneered by SOE with EQ1.
There are several MMO's on the market that don't charge for expansions, EVE and L2 being the most prominent, CoX I would also classify as another as CoV wasn't so much an expansion as a different game that tied in with CoH. An expansion should add new gameplay elements and features to a game, not just add more content, otherwise the game will become stale.
An Expansion is extra additional content. you pay a monthly fee for server upkeep + staff + additional content. you do get additional content, and nobody is forcing you to buy the expansion.
An Expansion is extra additional content. you pay a monthly fee for server upkeep + staff + additional content. you do get additional content, and nobody is forcing you to buy the expansion.
Actaully with uping the max level and no content added to lvl in the original part of WoW they kinda force the expansion on you. Only way to really lvl to that lvl70 is in the new outlands. As i stated before this is the main reason i consider it a complete rip-off. If you up the max lvl at least there should be content added in the classical part of WoW so peeps are able to get max lvl there aswell and people playing expansion will get to classical parts from time to time.
This is not the case so now the classical WoW game is totally useless after lvl60 although you still pay as much monthly cost. If you look a decent mmorpg companies like Mythic if there expansion added to little like just a bit of land and housing option the released that part of the game for free. A lot of the expansion had new classes. the ones that didn't had something really new added to the game never done in the game before. During the time that the game run all free expansion where avaible for the classical game aswell. If content was added by patch releases it was always avaible for classical game aswell. After all this time there now a whooping 44 classes you can play compare that with the PATHETIC 9 you can play in WoW.
Blizzard goes into the mmorpg market but the treat there customers as solo game players. Until lvl60 it's more like diablo II more then groups of 8 isn't needed. Almost all parts except instances can more or less be soloed. No reall need to group except for raiding instances.
Sadly this rip-off is probably going to work aswell. peeps that still are in the game are so dying for something new that can keep them busy for more then a month which the normal 1 dugeon patch does they jump for the change. The peeps that already quit might even return because that are the people which after raiding for a month or two had something like "he this not for me" may come back because it is actaully a enyoable game for single and small group play and you would have 10 new levels with new qeust it should for the more casaul player be another 3 months of fun play with an "need" chat channel .
But from a standpoint of what a MMORPG should be WoW and especially the new expansion is a complete RIP-OFF. Let face it mmorpg players want meaningfull econimics sins blizzard keeps comming out with a new tier armor thats only avaible by raiding and then is bound to the player the econimics are pathetic. RPG part is none existing 9 classes ??? and now your even able to play them at both sides ???? omg how pathetic can you get. In a WoW pvp server it still a little there with the fact you can kill everybody anyware so you get a bit of good versus evil feel but besides that there's no meaningfull RPG part in WoW. i really hoped blizzard would show the mmorpg world you could make a mmorpg wich is meaningfull for both casaul and hardcore players but it turns out to be a adoptation of diablo II to an persistent world. IMO it doesn't deserve to be called an MMORPG
they are adding some cool stuff... but i still think they should add more if they are gonna call it an expansion.
they really should add more classes and other stuff you can do then just grind.
maybe a monster race track thingy? more then just one new profession? i dont know, but they should know and they sure as hell should add more!
i used to love blizzard, love everyone of their games since i played starcraft and diablo (1).
if they want me to start playing wow again then they would have to add alot more to the game.
Actaully DAoC was the first mmorpg so im spoiled i actaully played the mmoprg from the most decent mmorpg company around. I still think all these so called mmorpg's could take a lesson from mythic. Sure mythic made mistakes but they at least tryed to created balance and tryed to expaned on there original ideas withouth screwing up the player base. i reactevated my DAoC twice after certain expansion came out and had at least a few months of reall fun again with my max lvl chars and always lvled another char to max lvl besides the ones i already had and every time it was more diverse and less a grind (also because of the fact you start at a higher lvl). From all the MMORPG i played DAoC is still the one that IMO does the job the best.
BLizzard just mailt me with there newest rip-off. I still wondering when this game loving company turned to the dark site. Are all Blizzard employees playing horde or something. There getting as corrupt as EA and SOE
World of Warcraft Trading Card Game(blizzard new way to get your hard earned cash).
If they don't watch it, that 7 million mark might be down to 500,000 users before they know it! There is enough competition coming out with the next 6 months - 1 year that could do it!
D.
So many games, so little time!
Go play UO , They have done alot of changes and updates in the last 6 months ,including the upcoming testing of punkbuster (the devs have stated if doesnt work they will can it) , PVP is better , but still not to the point of the old day's , getting there tho.
Only thing that missing is newer graphics , but with EA's all of the sudden (re)interest in MMO's( couldnt they have done it years ago
) and the release of 9th anniversary coming in OCT. (rumour to be called A New Age)a new engine is heavely rumoured for next years 10th annisversary. 14 day trial can be found on uo.com.
As for WOW I played it for a week , liked the graphics but wasn't for me..
there will be no 40 man raid instances in BC.
It seems that you have no sense of comprehension... I was NOT talking about BC, I was talking about the original 40 mans. The next time you try to flame someone at least try to figure out what they are saying first, I understand that must be a difficult task for you.
I learned this lesson well back in the days of God Wars muds. The original God Wars had vampires, werewolves, and demons (And also mages, but most games disabled them). The classes were actually different in that demons could turn into objects and harass people and/or assist a friend as a weapon and even continue to harass someone once they had died and were only a severed head! Vampires could mimic other people and do their worst to defame someone and had a variety of magics and special abilities at their disposal, while werewolves were sheer powerhouses, though they had some abilities of their own as well.
Then everyone started making Godwars muds and there came new classes and they were all the same boring crap with different commands to execute combos and their own class gear. All the same.
I want deeper and more interesting classes, not more boring classes than I can shake a stick at.
Oh please! I'm normally on the developers side sins i have some programming experience and know a bit about what comes along when you want a actaul mmorpg. But thats just the point. Blizzard claims to have 5 million subscribers let say for agrument sake there only paying $10 thats freaking 50 million dollars a month reveneu from 1 game. to make a vaible mmorpg you only need about 20k subscribers and then you wouild still have a dev team doing updates and adding content. Blizzard has suchs a large profit on WoW they could actaully hire an entire dev team for a totally new mmorpg on a monthly basis.
And for all those devoted, loyale grinders the come up with an expansion like this ????????????????
From developers point a view looking at the reveneus this game has it's an utterly incredible BIG RIP-OFF. From a player point of view it's about 80% of what the normal mmorpg player gets from an normal expansion and it's about a year too late. If Mythic had this kinda reveneu they would bring out patches as big as this expansion on 3 monthly basis just to return something to there loyal players
edit: had the number off subcribers wrong
The fact is your forced to buy it because you not able to reach max lvl withouth it.
Your already paying a monthly fee so forcing people in anyway to make them to buy the expansion i would consider a rip-off tatic.
You are hardly forced, you can still play. And isn't it usually the case expansions have something that will give you an edge. For example, are you saying in DAoC that you didn't have items in expansions that obsoleted old areas and to have a chance of competing you really had to buy the expansion? I find it hard to believe if it didn't, and don't believe it didn't because I know some people who played DAoC.
WoW is a ripoff.
Period.
That's all I have to say about that. Don't bother replying to me. I will never click this thread again.
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