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MuddahMuddah Member UncommonPosts: 161
in The Pub at MMORPG.COM

http://fluxgate.wordpress.com/2006/02/01/top-20-korean-mmorpgs/

http://www.playgate.net/

http://www.playgate.net/close/list_yu.asp?list_jong=list_yu (scroll down theres 10 pages!!)

http://www.magicoverload.com/list_of_games.asp

Thats just the tip of the iceberg there is seriously over 100 different Asian MMO's.

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  • AshkentAshkent Member Posts: 772

    too bad every single one of them sucks

    apparently they've never heard of quality over quantity before

  • SigneSigne Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,524
    I think there's probably even more than 100.  I'm not a big fan though, either.  Most of the ones I've tried are tedious and grindy.  The worst of the lot, however, are the ones, every bit as tedious and grindy, but so sweet looking it raises your blood sugar to dangerous levels.

  • CleffyIICleffyII Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,440

    Originally posted by Ashkent

    too bad every single one of them sucks
    apparently they've never heard of quality over quantity before
    Niether has the west.

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  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993

    Originally posted by CleffyII

    Originally posted by Ashkent

    too bad every single one of them sucks
    apparently they've never heard of quality over quantity before
    Niether has the west.
    I rather be an EVE fanboy than play a Korean MMORPG.

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  • Xerion12Xerion12 Member Posts: 371
    This is why narrow minded Americans will be the downfall of the earth.

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  • FloppyFloppy Member Posts: 19

    Originally posted by Xerion12
    This is why narrow minded Americans will be the downfall of the earth.
    And here i thought your face would be the downfall of the earth. My bad.
  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993

    Originally posted by Xerion12
    This is why narrow minded Americans will be the downfall of the earth.


    1. I am not an American.

    2. I'm narrow minded because I do not enjoy... ehh nevermind, I think that I already made my point.

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  • Xerion12Xerion12 Member Posts: 371

    Originally posted by Floppy

    Originally posted by Xerion12
    This is why narrow minded Americans will be the downfall of the earth.
    And here i thought your face would be the downfall of the earth. My bad.


    Hilarious.

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    That list is already outdated.

    the current Number 1 Korean mmorpg in Korea is Archlord. its a big hit there.

    although this will soon be filled by western players, complaining because they can't type "Ding!" every 10 minutes like in western games.


  • GorukhaGorukha Member Posts: 1,441
      Narrow minded american hmmm..... I suppose making a 100 identical games that substitute a leveling grind over content is the perfect example of a mind open to ideas lol. 

    It's better be hated for who you are, than loved for who you aren't.
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  • joshuaPhiiljoshuaPhiil Member Posts: 65

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    the current Number 1 Korean mmorpg in Korea is Archlord. its a big hit there.



    WRONG

    Archlord is a failure in Asia and is doing bad there. get your facts right.  it only has around 50,000 players in all of asia. lineage and lineage2 are the kings of asia.

    theres only 1 good "true" PvP mmog being made for 2007. No levels , no classes , Skill based. Like pre trammel UO.  <3

    www.thronesofchaos.com

  • syrecsyrec Member UncommonPosts: 26
    Grind treadmill sucks no matter where it comes from. Gamers unite, imo

  • atlaznboiatlaznboi Member Posts: 100

    Originally posted by joshuaPhiil

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    the current Number 1 Korean mmorpg in Korea is Archlord. its a big hit there.


    www.thronesofchaos.com


    koo thx for the link

  • InflictionInfliction Member Posts: 1,115

    Originally posted by joshuaPhiil

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    the current Number 1 Korean mmorpg in Korea is Archlord. its a big hit there.



    WRONG

    Archlord is a failure in Asia and is doing bad there. get your facts right.  it only has around 50,000 players in all of asia. lineage and lineage2 are the kings of asia.

    theres only 1 good "true" PvP mmog being made for 2007. No levels , no classes , Skill based. Like pre trammel UO.  <3

    www.thronesofchaos.com


    LOL?

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    Originally posted by joshuaPhiil

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    the current Number 1 Korean mmorpg in Korea is Archlord. its a big hit there.



    WRONG

    Archlord is a failure in Asia and is doing bad there. get your facts right.  it only has around 50,000 players in all of asia. lineage and lineage2 are the kings of asia.

    theres only 1 good "true" PvP mmog being made for 2007. No levels , no classes , Skill based. Like pre trammel UO.  <3

    www.thronesofchaos.com

    so I'm sure you can add a link to official word for that?
    because from what I heard of CM, Archlord is doing very well in Asia.
    in terms of subscribers, your right, because Archlord is free to play there. its incredibly hard to get official numbers for player base with free to play mmo's.  its both speculating on my part, as well as on your part. but, browsing other forums here and there, I noticed a few people saying Archlord is VERY popular in asia.

    also, please stop posting the link to thronesofchaos. I think more then enough people have already been scammed back when it was Mourning.
  • KhaelSUNKhaelSUN Member Posts: 394

    lol Thrones of Chaos, or should I say Realms of Krel, Realms of Torrent, Mourning, or Age of Mourning... wonder what it'll be next week.

    More info here: http://krelslibrary.org/interview.html

    Good guide on how to not make a mmorpg.

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    SUN - peekayin since pong
    Webdeveloper on:
    http://www.guildofsun.com
    http://www.bloodmonarchy.com

  • CleffyIICleffyII Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,440

    Your guys' assumptions about the Korean MMO market is so damn irritating.  In America and Europe we see 2 genres in mmos.  Sci-fi, and Tolkien Fantasy.  In Asia there are many genre being brought to the mmo realm like, Sports, Racing, Fantasy(more then just Tolkien), Sci-Fi, and Anime.  Just because you narrow minded people don't actually look at anything but those damn Lineage 2 clones doesn't mean you know "All of Asia"  damn you guys need to do some research instead of being prejudice assholes.

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  • Vertex1980Vertex1980 Member Posts: 951

    Originally posted by CleffyII

    Your guys' assumptions about the Korean MMO market is so damn irritating.  In America and Europe we see 2 genres in mmos.  Sci-fi, and Tolkien Fantasy.  In Asia there are many genre being brought to the mmo realm like, Sports, Racing, Fantasy(more then just Tolkien), Sci-Fi, and Anime.  Just because you narrow minded people don't actually look at anything but those damn Lineage 2 clones doesn't mean you know "All of Asia"  damn you guys need to do some research instead of being prejudice assholes.


    I just don't want mindless grinding.  It's a very simple concept.  I'm not Asian, and I don't like their games, so that makes me a prejudice assclown and narrow minded?

    No, just makes me like a game with actuall flavor, not a game with 2,000 levels and all you do is grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind,  and grind some more untill you killed "X" amount of rats/dogs/flying eyeballs, whatever.

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  • CleffyIICleffyII Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,440

    The thing is you grind in every mmo except for World of Warcraft, Guild Wars, and Planetside.  Infact most western games have worse grinds.

    Yes it does from the comments you make about Asian games.  It is very narrow minded and pins the entire industry in asia on only a few games you had bad experiences with.  Aside from a few people here, generally everyone at mmorpg.com acts this way.  The only other assumption made is that everything looks like Lineage 2.  Whats worse yet is when someone wants to talk about an Asian game and are new, their views are attacked by alot of the bygot trolls that run around these forums.

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    Originally posted by Vertex1980

    Originally posted by CleffyII

    Your guys' assumptions about the Korean MMO market is so damn irritating.  In America and Europe we see 2 genres in mmos.  Sci-fi, and Tolkien Fantasy.  In Asia there are many genre being brought to the mmo realm like, Sports, Racing, Fantasy(more then just Tolkien), Sci-Fi, and Anime.  Just because you narrow minded people don't actually look at anything but those damn Lineage 2 clones doesn't mean you know "All of Asia"  damn you guys need to do some research instead of being prejudice assholes.


    I just don't want mindless grinding.  It's a very simple concept.  I'm not Asian, and I don't like their games, so that makes me a prejudice assclown and narrow minded?

    No, that is not narrow minded.


    No, just makes me like a game with actuall flavor, not a game with 2,000 levels and all you do is grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind,  and grind some more untill you killed "X" amount of rats/dogs/flying eyeballs, whatever.

    But this is. because it simply isn't true.


  • Jimmy_ScytheJimmy_Scythe Member CommonPosts: 3,586

    One of the things that most AGHs (Asian Game Hater) fail to understand is the major difference in design philosopies between asain and western games.

    Western games are based more on the single player RPG model. The player is given a set of objectives to tackle in a semi-linear fashion. This idea is probably the least MMO friendly since it requires a constant stream of new objectives and new content. Bottom line: Western games are GOAL ORIENTED.

    Asian games are based more on collecting. Often times, you'll see something like "over 5 million items" in the features list of an asian game. Unlike western gamers, asian gamers aren't so into hitting the level cap as fast as possible. The aim of most asian game design is to create something along the lines of The Sims meet Diablo. Oddly enough, many Asian games hit that balance between Animal crossing and Champions of Norrath. A good example would be Mabinogi or Ragnarok Online.

    As a side note: World of Warcraft was originally concieved as following the collectable card model. Come to think of it, Guild Wars follows that model as wel.

  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928

    You guys need to learn the difference between obvious grinding and forced grinding. Alot of Asian games have obvious grinding, you know damn well thats how its going to be. Most "western" mmo's have forced grinding, they try to cover it up with stupid little quest and a shit-assed "storyline", but it dosent work.

    At least the Asians dont bullshit me.



    "There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
    — Boba Fett

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Asian games are there for only one reason, and thats competition. there is always one (or sometimes more) event(s) that the game is all about. examples, Lineage 2's Castle sieges & Clan politics, RF Online's Chip Wars, Ragnarok Online's War of Emperium, Archlord's Archlord system.

    Asian MMORPG's are all about competition. saying "its nothing but grind" is ignorant. your completely missing the point then.


  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928

    Originally posted by Gameloading
    Asian games are there for only one reason, and thats competition. there is always one (or sometimes more) event(s) that the game is all about. examples, Lineage 2's Castle sieges & Clan politics, RF Online's Chip Wars, Ragnarok Online's War of Emperium, Archlord's Archlord system.

    Asian MMORPG's are all about competition. saying "its nothing but grind" is ignorant. your completely missing the point then.



    Good points. Competition would be a much better selling factor in Asia, considering there are like 3 billion people in the Continent of Asia. Dont take that number as a fact.... its random.

    "There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
    — Boba Fett

  • MuddahMuddah Member UncommonPosts: 161

    Grind grind grind all day long I grind all day while I sing this song~!

    Asians die from not eating or sleeping while playing online games or from killing each other IRL for stealing in game items from each other. That's just a few headlines I've read

    Even their MMOFPS you really need to play 100's of matches to lvl up.

    They have a MMO for everything Online Dancing to Online Racing I'll give them credit for creativity in coming up with ideas for things to make games out of.

    But they all have a huge GRIND..............

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